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Post by 32Green on Mar 20, 2018 17:02:13 GMT -5
I heard this weekend that somebody said their were 72 genders. 72 72 One for each Virgin a mooslim gets for blowing shit up. There's a symmetry there, I just cant see it, nor do I care to.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 19:16:12 GMT -5
Rosen is atheist. So I think that would make them anti-anti. That would mean...yes, yes...Rosen will be tits on the double reverse.
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Post by bxjetfan on Mar 20, 2018 19:53:38 GMT -5
So where do Petty and Hack wind up assuming we cut them? I could see Hack with the Texans and Petty on the Pats.
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Post by DowNY on Mar 20, 2018 19:56:25 GMT -5
I find it really interesting that Mel Kiper has been so confident in saying that the Browns will pick Josh Allen #1. Sam Darnold's pro day is tomorrow and is supposed to rain. If he does ok but Josh Allen does better, I can see the Browns solidifying their decision on Allen being number #1 & that will change a lot of these "mock drafts".
Let's not forget, these GMs and shit know more than the people reporting on twitter & shit. More than Sheftner. Idk how Mel would have the resources to know but yeah.
Browns pick #1, I'd actually would love the Giants to pick Sam & we pick Rosen back to back. Back page of the newspaper can be half green & half blue with our respective new franchise QBs, street fighter style.
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Post by DowNY on Mar 20, 2018 19:58:14 GMT -5
The Browns would be dumb as hell to move the pick. They already have a shitload of draft capital and just over the last 2 years alone they passed on Wentz and then proceeded to pass on Watson not once, but twice. They have to take their QB at #1. Yep, I think it's more interesting to note that the Broncos made those calls. Means that they're definitely taking QB & I see them as more of a threat than Bills for #2 because they're not so far back & Giants can still end up with a player like Nelson or even Barkley depending on if Browns trade #4.
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Mar 20, 2018 21:42:31 GMT -5
So where do Petty and Hack wind up assuming we cut them? I could see Hack with the Texans and Petty on the Pats. One at the grocery store, one at the car wash.
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Post by RobR on Mar 20, 2018 22:34:00 GMT -5
So where do Petty and Hack wind up assuming we cut them? I could see Hack with the Texans and Petty on the Pats. Hack is either out of the league or on someones practice squad.....I think Petty might get a backup gig but he's not eligible to be put on a PS, so who knows. BTW The same GM that picked those players is now picking our FQB.....oh the joy of being a Jets fan.
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Post by Peebag on Mar 21, 2018 11:53:38 GMT -5
I would tend to trust this ^^^^assessment. So...no Allen, no Rosen...pretty much leaves Mayfield as Darnold will be gone most likely. Has anyone seen Idzik’s mock draft yet? thats the watermark for opposite pick
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Post by crossfire on Mar 21, 2018 16:07:26 GMT -5
Has anyone seen Idzik’s mock draft yet? thats the watermark for opposite pick Idzik is the face of the Jets draft.
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Post by stlouiejetfan on Mar 21, 2018 16:37:57 GMT -5
So where do Petty and Hack wind up assuming we cut them? I could see Hack with the Texans and Petty on the Pats. Hack is either out of the league or on someones practice squad.....I think Petty might get a backup gig but he's not eligible to be put on a PS, so who knows. BTW The same GM that picked those players is now picking our FQB.....oh the joy of being a Jets fan. Third times a charm! Or..3 strikes and Mac is Out
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Post by jetitbe on Mar 21, 2018 17:05:46 GMT -5
To be fair, Mac will be selecting a QB with the third overall pick this time, rather than with a second- or fourth-round pick. I don't think he necessarily drafted Hackenberg or Petty with the idea that they were definitely going to be the franchise QB. Both were gambles that didn't work out. Now he's going to get a guy that everyone projects to be worthy of a high first-round pick. His pick won't automatically be a 10-15-year franchise QB for us, but the odds certainly are greater this time that he will.
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Post by Lithfan on Mar 22, 2018 9:30:58 GMT -5
To be fair, Mac will be selecting a QB with the third overall pick this time, rather than with a second- or fourth-round pick. I don't think he necessarily drafted Hackenberg or Petty with the idea that they were definitely going to be the franchise QB. Both were gambles that didn't work out. Now he's going to get a guy that everyone projects to be worthy of a high first-round pick. His pick won't automatically be a 10-15-year franchise QB for us, but the odds certainly are greater this time that he will.History suggests we have about a 50% chance of hitting on a Top 5 QB. Certainly better odds than a second or 4th rounder, but when you look at the history of top5 QBs, there is still a pretty big miss factor. Probably the most important guy on this team for the next couple of season is Jeremy Bates. I have no confidence in Bowles ability to develop a QB, nothing we have seen in his 3 seasons would suggest that he or his staff can. There was no evident development in Bryce Petty from Year 1 to Year 3 -- he still looked like a lost rookie when he stepped in this season. And forget about Hack -- there is nothing any of us have seen that could possibly suggest that he has been developed. It has got to be up to Bates, can he help whomever we take - Allen/Rosen/Darnold/Mayfield develop into a Top 10 QB. For the record, here is a list of all QBs drafted top 5 in the last 30 years (excluding the most recent few years since it is too early to pass judgement). I grouped the QBs into Franchise QBs, Solid Starters (guys who started most of their careers but floated around the league), and busts. Franchise (14) | Starter (3) | Bust (11)
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| Alex Smith
| Jeff George
| Akili Smith
| Blake Bortles
| Andrew Luck
| Kerry Collins
| David Carr
| Carson Wentz
| Cam Newton
| Sam Bradford
| Heat Shuler
| Jameis Winston
| Carson Palmer
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| Jamarcus Russell
| Jared Goff
| Donovan McNabb
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| Joey Harrington
| Marcus Mariota
| Drew Bledsoe
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| Mark Sanchez
| Mitch Trubisky
| Eli Manning
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| Rick MIrer
| Patrick Mahomes
| Matt Ryan
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| Robert Griffin
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| Matthew Stafford
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| Ryan Leaf
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| Michael Vick
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Of the 28 guys, 14 are considered franchise QBs, and you could probably argue that a couple of the "franchise" guys belong in the starter category (Bledsoe, Palmer, Vick). 50% hit rate. Do we have the coaching staff/scouting staff to push the odds higher than 50%. I hope so, but I don't have a lot of confidence in our decision makers/coaching staff. I just hope they get it right.
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Post by Lithfan on Mar 22, 2018 10:53:20 GMT -5
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Post by Jets Things on Mar 22, 2018 11:53:11 GMT -5
What's the point? Dickhead Giants are going to take him.
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Post by cgjet on Mar 22, 2018 12:04:33 GMT -5
What's the point? Dickhead Giants are going to take him. What does the Giants trade of JasonPierre-Paul to Tampa do to the draft? Will they take a QB or a highly rated DE pass rusher? Not sure but it leads to some interesting possibilities for the draft.
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