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Post by 32Green on May 24, 2018 23:20:19 GMT -5
I think i be a fantastic cop. I want to switch sides for years now. Where can a 41 year old join the force. Pronto let me know. I be a mix of Harvey Keitel Bad Lieutenant but sober. And Shaft. Sprinkle in a little Al Pacino heat. I'm telling you nothing goes down without me seeing it. I became friends with the police out here. I told them 4 times what houses to watch they were all no no good kid from good family. Million dollar heroin ring busted up. Now i get a little respect but some inquisitive looks from the detectives im sure they hit that background check and were like sweet jesus. But not even a traffic ticket in 8 years Friend of mine was set up as the owner of a phony chop-shop operation to catch a known car-thief who killed a cop. He had to go full gindaloon to pull it off for like 8 months. Finally the killer made incriminating statements to create cred with the "owner" who was offering him "street work" on the side. Finally collared the miscreant for his foul misdeeds. Thing was..he stayed "full gindaloon" when he was returned to regular Detective work and it was really annoying. Thought he was a celebrity. You could probably go that route. Just have to find a way of sh*t canning your previous record and your emerging ghey butterfly phase. |
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Post by Trades on May 25, 2018 4:47:19 GMT -5
From a different angle wouldn't the owner paying the player's fine be considered circumventing the salary cap? You are basically giving the player a "bonus" for kneeling.
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Post by crossfire on May 25, 2018 5:23:54 GMT -5
I don’t think any Jets kneeled last year. Chris Johnson stood with them and they all looked arms for the anthem. I hated the kneeling but had no issue at all with the locking arms. I personally hate racism. I’m smart enough to hate people for other reasons than the color of their skin. Personally, I think the outcry is because more people suspect this is less about racism and more about immature, attention-starved, un-informed spoiled dullards trying to gain back the street-cred they lost when they BECAME FUCKING MILLIONAIRES, most of whom cant be bothered to marry their baby mamas, creating another generation of father issue kids the world will have to deal with. The cops have an imperfect relationship with many in their community, but its more because of what the Democratic party has thrived on the last 50 years which is maintaining a culture of victimhood and anger amongst them. I've seen it from the boots up, as a very liberal college grad sent into the trenches...what the Democratic party has done to these communities. The cawps are stuck in the middle, and yes they are imperfect..they are us. The real problem is much larger and darker..and lurks in the very hearts of those that purport to advocate for minorities, most of whom ARE FULL OF SHIT. As Oscar Gamble once said... they dont think it be like it is but it do. You answered your own question... a lot of people do. It's a business. We elect them. Assholes on both sides. The sad part is that many who say they are fighting it are actually among the biggest racists. |
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Post by cgjet on May 25, 2018 7:37:10 GMT -5
Personally, I think he should of just kept his mouth shut and let the league handle it. However, it could be unintended genius on his part by offering to pay the fines. What type of person with any character at all would continually let someone who has voiced support for them continue to take a financial loss for their actions? I may be way off base on this but I don't think there will be any Jets not standing for the anthem. Some may choose to stay in the locker room but as far as divisive displays on the field, I'm speculating their will be no issues during the upcoming season.
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Post by Trades on May 25, 2018 7:38:36 GMT -5
Personally, I think he should of just kept his mouth shut and let the league handle it. However, it could be unintended genius on his part by offering to pay the fines. What type of person with any character at all would continually let someone who has voiced support for them continue to take a financial loss for their actions? I may be way off base on this but I don't think there will be any Jets not standing for the anthem. Some may choose to stay in the locker room but as far as divisive displays on the field, I'm speculating their will be no issues during the upcoming season. Why do you assume they have any character at all? |
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Post by 32Green on May 25, 2018 8:04:00 GMT -5
Who "likes" racism? Personally, I think the outcry is because more people suspect this is less about racism and more about immature, attention-starved, un-informed spoiled dullards trying to gain back the street-cred they lost when they BECAME FUCKING MILLIONAIRES, most of whom cant be bothered to marry their baby mamas, creating another generation of father issue kids the world will have to deal with. The cops have an imperfect relationship with many in their community, but its more because of what the Democratic party has thrived on the last 50 years which is maintaining a culture of victimhood and anger amongst them. I've seen it from the boots up, as a very liberal college grad sent into the trenches...what the Democratic party has done to these communities. The cawps are stuck in the middle, and yes they are imperfect..they are us. The real problem is much larger and darker..and lurks in the very hearts of those that purport to advocate for minorities, most of whom ARE FULL OF SHIT. As Oscar Gamble once said... they dont think it be like it is but it do. You answered your own question... a lot of people do. It's a business. We elect them. Assholes on both sides. The sad part is that many who say they are fighting it are actually among the biggest racists. Touche'. You are exactly right. |
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Post by cgjet on May 25, 2018 8:23:18 GMT -5
Personally, I think he should of just kept his mouth shut and let the league handle it. However, it could be unintended genius on his part by offering to pay the fines. What type of person with any character at all would continually let someone who has voiced support for them continue to take a financial loss for their actions? I may be way off base on this but I don't think there will be any Jets not standing for the anthem. Some may choose to stay in the locker room but as far as divisive displays on the field, I'm speculating their will be no issues during the upcoming season. Why do you assume they have any character at all? I'd like to think that most players on the Jets do. However, unless you have a team which has completely gone rogue it's probably a microcosm of society, where you have people who are generous, hardworking, smart and informed. On the other hand you have a percentage of people who are of bad character, greedy, uninformed, not very smart. |
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Post by 2foolish on May 25, 2018 10:23:20 GMT -5
thats one of my biggest axes against the left is that they inject politics into everything... LOL common boss - Unhappy fans are screaming "anti-American"; which is a political statement. i know this sound childish but who started it?... |
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Post by mykepm on May 25, 2018 13:12:15 GMT -5
Last I checked, supporting peaceful protest is pretty American. Although that may not be a popular stance around here. I still wish those players who do kneel would better articulate what they're kneeling about - police brutality, Trump, etc. Agreed, but you are not entitled to protest at work. There is simply nothing more to this stupid story. The kneeling is not a random protest. Sports businesses (pro sports leagues) include a political ritual (the playing of the national anthem) in their work events, which forces a reaction from their employees. Most choose to react to it by standing, others have chosen to sit or kneel, and it was within NFL rules for players to do that - until now. If your company put a policy in place that every employee needed to salute a picture of the President of the United States on their way in the door every day, would you do it? Would you have done it 2 years ago? If you chose not to, would you be a “traitor” or “Un-American”? If you were fired or quit because of your refusal to obey the policy, would you be pissed off or would you just say “Well, I guess they were within their rights to implement that rule”, shrug your shoulders and move on? What if there were only a couple of other employment options in your line of work, and those companies either paid significantly less than your original company, or made you adhere to the same policy, or both? |
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Post by 2foolish on May 25, 2018 14:05:19 GMT -5
Agreed, but you are not entitled to protest at work. There is simply nothing more to this stupid story. The kneeling is not a random protest. Sports businesses (pro sports leagues) include a political ritual (the playing of the national anthem) in their work events, which forces a reaction from their employees. Most choose to react to it by standing, others have chosen to sit or kneel, and it was within NFL rules for players to do that - until now. If your company put a policy in place that every employee needed to salute a picture of the President of the United States on their way in the door every day, would you do it? Would you have done it 2 years ago? If you chose not to, would you be a “traitor” or “Un-American”? If you were fired or quit because of your refusal to obey the policy, would you be pissed off or would you just say “Well, I guess they were within their rights to implement that rule”, shrug your shoulders and move on? What if there were only a couple of other employment options in your line of work, and those companies either paid significantly less than your original company, or made you adhere to the same policy, or both? national anthem is not a political ritual per se...lots of people who are apolitical or have no horse in politics support the playing of the national anthem and feel some sense of national pride...everyone knows the words... |
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Post by Trades on May 25, 2018 14:22:37 GMT -5
Agreed, but you are not entitled to protest at work. There is simply nothing more to this stupid story. The kneeling is not a random protest. Sports businesses (pro sports leagues) include a political ritual (the playing of the national anthem) in their work events, which forces a reaction from their employees. Most choose to react to it by standing, others have chosen to sit or kneel, and it was within NFL rules for players to do that - until now. If your company put a policy in place that every employee needed to salute a picture of the President of the United States on their way in the door every day, would you do it? Would you have done it 2 years ago? If you chose not to, would you be a “traitor” or “Un-American”? If you were fired or quit because of your refusal to obey the policy, would you be pissed off or would you just say “Well, I guess they were within their rights to implement that rule”, shrug your shoulders and move on? What if there were only a couple of other employment options in your line of work, and those companies either paid significantly less than your original company, or made you adhere to the same policy, or both? Every member of the military (myself included) vows to obey orders from the president no matter who that person is. We also have to stop, find a flag, stand at attention and salute when the anthem is played on base/post and if you are in your car you are to pull over and quietly observe. You can be pissed off all you want about the policy but it isn't your choice other than to leave and find another job. It also isn't like every one of them wasn't aware of the procedure of playing the anthem before games when they chose to pursue a career in sports. That ritual isn't new. I will also add that they can always call a press conference, start a charity, go on every show they can find and discuss their chosen gripe, just not while at work. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 14:49:19 GMT -5
The Military imposes that rule (among all of them) to ensure a unified response in time of war.
The Constitution gives US residents the CHOICE to observe. Observe what they want. The president serves under the constitution. Maybe he should deport himself.
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Post by mykepm on May 25, 2018 15:07:40 GMT -5
The kneeling is not a random protest. Sports businesses (pro sports leagues) include a political ritual (the playing of the national anthem) in their work events, which forces a reaction from their employees. Most choose to react to it by standing, others have chosen to sit or kneel, and it was within NFL rules for players to do that - until now. If your company put a policy in place that every employee needed to salute a picture of the President of the United States on their way in the door every day, would you do it? Would you have done it 2 years ago? If you chose not to, would you be a “traitor” or “Un-American”? If you were fired or quit because of your refusal to obey the policy, would you be pissed off or would you just say “Well, I guess they were within their rights to implement that rule”, shrug your shoulders and move on? What if there were only a couple of other employment options in your line of work, and those companies either paid significantly less than your original company, or made you adhere to the same policy, or both? Every member of the military (myself included) vows to obey orders from the president no matter who that person is. We also have to stop, find a flag, stand at attention and salute when the anthem is played on base/post and if you are in your car you are to pull over and quietly observe. You can be pissed off all you want about the policy but it isn't your choice other than to leave and find another job. It also isn't like every one of them wasn't aware of the procedure of playing the anthem before games when they chose to pursue a career in sports. That ritual isn't new. I will also add that they can always call a press conference, start a charity, go on every show they can find and discuss their chosen gripe, just not while at work. Thanks for your service. The players knew that the anthem would be played, and to my knowledge none of them have expressed an issue with that. What's new is the rule that is telling them that they need to react a certain way to it. The CEO of the Jets has chosen to insulate his players from that policy, and if we're trying to strip this down to the players having to follow the rules of their workplace, then we shouldn't be criticizing him for his decision any more than the NFL is being criticized for theirs. |
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Post by 2foolish on May 25, 2018 15:40:44 GMT -5
bad policy...should have just let they thing die out...but i still don't respect kapernick...
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Post by soundchaser on May 25, 2018 16:33:53 GMT -5
The Military imposes that rule (among all of them) to ensure a unified response in time of war. The Constitution gives US residents the CHOICE to observe. Observe what they want. The president serves under the constitution. Maybe he should deport himself. I agree with your view WCO. The problem is, this league wide sitdown only occurred after the election of Trump. Chris Long and these other players must know they're was social injustice long before Trumps arrival. So to me there phonies looking for attention in order to make a political statement.
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