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Post by DDNYjets on Sept 29, 2018 10:32:53 GMT -5
C'mon man. Gun to your head. Do you believe the FBI has not been weaponized against anything Trump? I am a moderate Pub. I see them as having it out to destroy him to be honest. I think there is enough anecdotal evidence to support the claim over the last 18 months. It sucks that their behavior has really made the US question their integrity and ethics. Trump had nothing to do with that. Trump constant attacking individual members of the FBI has a lot to do with it. The majority of conspiracy theories all show blatant disregard to the facts. The FBI like all law enforcement agencies has had bad agents, but to believe there’s an actual deep state resisitemce to go after Trump is comical. Peter Strzok’s personal opinions are exactly that, do you believe all law enforcement officers/agents enforce the laws they only think are right and benefit them personally? Strzok used a govt phone and was an idiot chasing ass at work. McCabe got fucked the hardest. Here is the problem. Strozk was their top counter intel guy. He ran the show. So even if he is just one person, he is the one who can make a break you. So his bias was deep state resistance. McCabe was #2 in the FBI. And now we have the comments of Brennan, Clapper and Comey all showing personal hatred towards Trump. Do you think they were impartial? These men ran the show. We arent talking about some lesbian government contractor who leaks a document. We are talking about men who can bring us to war. Trump is using reciprocal force.
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Post by DDNYjets on Sept 29, 2018 10:36:22 GMT -5
He won the electoral. A Republican may never again win the popular. Liberals have completely taken over larger coastal cities like LA/NY/SEA and that allows them to run up the score. The infinite wisdom of our founding fathers (sorry if fathers triggers someone) making sure the people in fly-over country have a say. PA was part of the Blue Wall. She took it for granted. Those people were hurting. Even Bill Clinton questioned the Clinton campaigns strategy in those states. She went too Hollywood and the rest is history. Sure Comey played a role. I just dont think it was as big as people want to make it out to be. Her email scandal was well-known for years. As was her cunty personality. Perhaps she had too much of a resume. People's opinion of Hillary was been baked in over the past 20+ years. If you loved her, Comey wasnt going to change you. If you hated her then he just reaffirmed your disdain. So the Deep State FBI just waited to see who would win? Yes and no. If you think the practices of J Edgar died with him then I think you are mistaken. They have files on everyone. Comey briefed Trump on the dossier in Trump Tower after the election and Clapper told CNN about it. Before then the dossier was unreported bc it was unverified. But Comey's briefing of it to Trump gave it enough veracity for them to then "report" on it. I believe that was coordinated. Comey and Brennan wanted it to get out. Just like Comey wanted the email investigation to get out. Then you have the conversations between Page and Strozk about them funneling stories to the press. Again, we arent talking about Debbie the Administrative Assistant. We are talking about people who called the shots.
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Post by tkasper01 on Sept 29, 2018 10:54:53 GMT -5
C'mon man. Gun to your head. Do you believe the FBI has not been weaponized against anything Trump? I am a moderate Pub. I see them as having it out to destroy him to be honest. I think there is enough anecdotal evidence to support the claim over the last 18 months. It sucks that their behavior has really made the US question their integrity and ethics. Trump had nothing to do with that. Trump constant attacking individual members of the FBI has a lot to do with it. The majority of conspiracy theories all show blatant disregard to the facts. The FBI like all law enforcement agencies has had bad agents, but to believe there’s an actual deep state resisitemce to go after Trump is comical. Peter Strzok’s personal opinions are exactly that, do you believe all law enforcement officers/agents enforce the laws they only think are right and benefit them personally? Strzok used a govt phone and was an idiot chasing ass at work. McCabe got fucked the hardest. Absolutely not. I think the majority are trying to do the job they signed up for. My concern is with the leadership and those close to them. Just like Comey's email verbiage was changed slightly, but having a huge impact on charges, is what I am referring to. Things like that can certainly still happen by some of the crooked people with an agenda against Trump. You cannot deny that either. Rank and file are sick of this bullshit, that I am willing to put money on. I know a lot of NYPD, mostly like 32 now. You know retired black guys But they were good guys doing a shitty job the best they could.
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Post by tkasper01 on Sept 29, 2018 10:56:28 GMT -5
So the Deep State FBI just waited to see who would win? Yes and no. If you think the practices of J Edgar died with him then I think you are mistaken. They have files on everyone. Comey briefed Trump on the dossier in Trump Tower after the election and Clapper told CNN about it. Before then the dossier was unreported bc it was unverified. But Comey's briefing of it to Trump gave it enough veracity for them to then "report" on it. I believe that was coordinated. Comey and Brennan wanted it to get out. Just like Comey wanted the email investigation to get out. Then you have the conversations between Page and Strozk about them funneling stories to the press. Again, we arent talking about Debbie the Administrative Assistant. We are talking about people who called the shots. I will allow this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 11:45:47 GMT -5
Trump constant attacking individual members of the FBI has a lot to do with it. The majority of conspiracy theories all show blatant disregard to the facts. The FBI like all law enforcement agencies has had bad agents, but to believe there’s an actual deep state resisitemce to go after Trump is comical. Peter Strzok’s personal opinions are exactly that, do you believe all law enforcement officers/agents enforce the laws they only think are right and benefit them personally? Strzok used a govt phone and was an idiot chasing ass at work. McCabe got fucked the hardest. Absolutely not. I think the majority are trying to do the job they signed up for. My concern is with the leadership and those close to them. Just like Comey's email verbiage was changed slightly, but having a huge impact on charges, is what I am referring to. Things like that can certainly still happen by some of the crooked people with an agenda against Trump. You cannot deny that either. Rank and file are sick of this bullshit, that I am willing to put money on. I know a lot of NYPD, mostly like 32 now. You know retired black guys But they were good guys doing a shitty job the best they could. What did Comey have to personally gain by willfully and knowingly going after the President? BTW, I think Comey should have taken Hillary’s server investigation to a grand jury. As soon as Comey found out about Strozk and Page he immediately removed them. Sessions has done a good job and unlike the current President understands the laws and rules of government.
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Post by tkasper01 on Sept 29, 2018 13:35:11 GMT -5
Absolutely not. I think the majority are trying to do the job they signed up for. My concern is with the leadership and those close to them. Just like Comey's email verbiage was changed slightly, but having a huge impact on charges, is what I am referring to. Things like that can certainly still happen by some of the crooked people with an agenda against Trump. You cannot deny that either. Rank and file are sick of this bullshit, that I am willing to put money on. I know a lot of NYPD, mostly like 32 now. You know retired black guys But they were good guys doing a shitty job the best they could. What did Comey have to personally gain by willfully and knowingly going after the President? BTW, I think Comey should have taken Hillary’s server investigation to a grand jury. As soon as Comey found out about Strozk and Page he immediately removed them. Sessions has done a good job and unlike the current President understands the laws and rules of government. Just because you do not see the "personal gained" does not mean it was not there. He did change the verbiage that saved Hillary a grand jury appearance. Session has sucked. He is a gutless fuck.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Sept 29, 2018 13:53:21 GMT -5
The deep state FBI holding a press conference about Hillary’s emails 10 days before the election was horrible for Trump. You also believe your other hero Rachel Maddow is a woman. That’s also BS. She’s a 12 year old boy. In a few years she’ll probably get drunk at a HS party and molest a poor innocent young girl.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 13:55:40 GMT -5
What did Comey have to personally gain by willfully and knowingly going after the President? BTW, I think Comey should have taken Hillary’s server investigation to a grand jury. As soon as Comey found out about Strozk and Page he immediately removed them. Sessions has done a good job and unlike the current President understands the laws and rules of government. Just because you do not see the "personal gained" does not mean it was not there. He did change the verbiage that saved Hillary a grand jury appearance. Session has sucked. He is a gutless fuck. So Comey has what for a motive? Sessions understands the law and follows it.
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Post by vonrotten on Sept 29, 2018 13:57:27 GMT -5
Wow. How naive. My daughter attended UNC where she tells me teachers they’re in front of students say white men are the enemy. This is goes on all over America. To deny it is more than naive.... 90 percent of all media and college employees are not just Dems but hard liberal. Look at the campuses, the protests. Oh I’m naive because your daughter told you? 90% you say? Great sources. I've worked in academia for 21 years and I can count on one hand the number of conservatives I've met in academia. Of those few, almost every one of them teaches in either the business or the law schools. Very few of my colleagues know my political leanings and I never talk politics at work. I am also proud to say that none of my students could guess which way I lean, cause unlike others, I don't use the lectern as a bully pulpit.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Sept 29, 2018 13:59:49 GMT -5
C'mon man. Gun to your head. Do you believe the FBI has not been weaponized against anything Trump? I am a moderate Pub. I see them as having it out to destroy him to be honest. I think there is enough anecdotal evidence to support the claim over the last 18 months. It sucks that their behavior has really made the US question their integrity and ethics. Trump had nothing to do with that. Trump constant attacking individual members of the FBI has a lot to do with it. The majority of conspiracy theories all show blatant disregard to the facts. The FBI like all law enforcement agencies has had bad agents, but to believe there’s an actual deep state resisitemce to go after Trump is comical. Peter Strzok’s personal opinions are exactly that, do you believe all law enforcement officers/agents enforce the laws they only think are right and benefit them personally? Strzok used a govt phone and was an idiot chasing ass at work. McCabe got fucked the hardest. Strozk wasn’t chasing ass at work. He was chasing tail - as in horse tail. Those teeth. Those gums. Disgusting. He should have been fired for beastiality. But, they both fit in with the dems. So ugly they are mad at the world. Everything is unfair and unequal to them because would a just God make them so disturbingly unpleasant to the eye? They probably cry every morning just looking in he mirror. And that’s when they decide to do crazy things like take down a president. Your side really is hideous to look at. Bet you fit right in.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 14:00:06 GMT -5
Oh I’m naive because your daughter told you? 90% you say? Great sources. I've worked in academia for 21 years and I can count on one hand the number of conservatives I've met in academia. Of those few, almost every one of them teaches in either the business or the law schools. Very few of my colleagues know my political leanings and I never talk politics at work. I am also proud to say that none of my students could guess which way I lean, cause unlike others, I don't use the lectern as a bully pulpit. Don’t wreck their mantra. The right wing needs something to be angry about and to be able to blame “them”.
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Post by vonrotten on Sept 29, 2018 14:10:19 GMT -5
Trust me, there plenty of "them" in academia...that was my point....
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Post by bxjetfan on Sept 29, 2018 14:11:49 GMT -5
Just because you do not see the "personal gained" does not mean it was not there. He did change the verbiage that saved Hillary a grand jury appearance. Session has sucked. He is a gutless fuck. So Comey has what for a motive? Sessions understands the law and follows it. Uhhh, staying the fuck out of prison?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 14:19:36 GMT -5
Trust me, there plenty of "them" in academia...that was my point.... To be consider part of them mean they aren’t rational and only see things blue vs red?
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Post by vonrotten on Sept 29, 2018 14:44:14 GMT -5
It's not just blue vs. red, it's blue or nothing. There is no debate, no "I can maybe see your point of view". Conservatives in academia are as closeted as gays were, not out of shame, but out of necessity.
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