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Post by Trades on Oct 31, 2018 21:13:29 GMT -5
are you really ok with just opening up the border to the invading hordes? Or do you always just push the contrary opinion because you’re trying to push buttons? Think carefully for for a second. If we open up the border and welcome these 4000 or so “caravan” people. What do you think will happen next? Really think about it. I’m all for immigration reform. The caravan that’s 1000 miles away will fade, I’ll bet around Nov 7th. If someone walks over 1500 miles to try to find a better and safer place we should at the very least listen to them and not a bunch of bs reports. Militarize zones on the border is lipstick on a pig. What will the military do if these people rush the border? Open up Fire at unarmed women and children? The military isn’t trained for domestic border patrol. It’s dumb. So when people walk from Chicago to your house you will welcome them with open arms because they walked 1500 miles and are looking for somewhere better and safer? |
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Post by Trades on Oct 31, 2018 21:18:08 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Oct 31, 2018 21:24:24 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Oct 31, 2018 21:27:25 GMT -5
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Post by jay57 on Oct 31, 2018 21:52:24 GMT -5
are you really ok with just opening up the border to the invading hordes? Or do you always just push the contrary opinion because you’re trying to push buttons? Think carefully for for a second. If we open up the border and welcome these 4000 or so “caravan” people. What do you think will happen next? Really think about it. I’m all for immigration reform. The caravan that’s 1000 miles away will fade, I’ll bet around Nov 7th. If someone walks over 1500 miles to try to find a better and safer place we should at the very least listen to them and not a bunch of bs reports. Militarize zones on the border is lipstick on a pig. What will the military do if these people rush the border? Open up Fire at unarmed women and children? The military isn’t trained for domestic border patrol. It’s dumb. That’s not what I mean. If we didn’t do any of that and just let them in, as you seem to want, what would happen then? What kind of message would that send to the people inhabiting the large continent to the south, and what do you think those folks would do next? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 6:45:23 GMT -5
I’m all for immigration reform. The caravan that’s 1000 miles away will fade, I’ll bet around Nov 7th. If someone walks over 1500 miles to try to find a better and safer place we should at the very least listen to them and not a bunch of bs reports. Militarize zones on the border is lipstick on a pig. What will the military do if these people rush the border? Open up Fire at unarmed women and children? The military isn’t trained for domestic border patrol. It’s dumb. That’s not what I mean. If we didn’t do any of that and just let them in, as you seem to want, what would happen then? What kind of message would that send to the people inhabiting the large continent to the south, and what do you think those folks would do next? Obviously the message and policies for the last 2 years hasn’t worked either because if they had this wouldn’t be occurring. The majority of the persons in the caravan are fleeing the drug cartels who are running their countries and threatening death if won’t fall in line. You think if they are told not only are you not welcome but your country is be8mg cut off too. There are wspays to to deal with people diplomatically. |
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Post by Trades on Nov 1, 2018 8:03:00 GMT -5
That’s not what I mean. If we didn’t do any of that and just let them in, as you seem to want, what would happen then? What kind of message would that send to the people inhabiting the large continent to the south, and what do you think those folks would do next? Obviously the message and policies for the last 2 years hasn’t worked either because if they had this wouldn’t be occurring. The majority of the persons in the caravan are fleeing the drug cartels who are running their countries and threatening death if won’t fall in line. You think if they are told not only are you not welcome but your country is be8mg cut off too. There are wspays to to deal with people diplomatically. Who do you want to deal with diplomatically? The violent horde that is breaking down barriers, attacking police and burning migration points in Mexico? Trump reached out to the leaders of the countries the horde is traveling through. They have been offered assylum in Mexico. Their goal isn't assylum or escape from the country whose flag they CONTINUE to wave. The goal is to come to America and it was organized by people looking to overwhelm our system. There are right ways to apply for assylum in the US and they are bypassing all of that through a planned brute force attack. |
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Post by jay57 on Nov 1, 2018 8:22:07 GMT -5
That’s not what I mean. If we didn’t do any of that and just let them in, as you seem to want, what would happen then? What kind of message would that send to the people inhabiting the large continent to the south, and what do you think those folks would do next? Obviously the message and policies for the last 2 years hasn’t worked either because if they had this wouldn’t be occurring. The majority of the persons in the caravan are fleeing the drug cartels who are running their countries and threatening death if won’t fall in line. You think if they are told not only are you not welcome but your country is be8mg cut off too. There are wspays to to deal with people diplomatically. No. If we let them in the message will be come on in boys, the waters fine! And it wouldn’t stop until the entirety of the poor from Mexico, central and South America are in the US! We need to set the example by turning this horde back. If we don’t, there will be a migrant flood that will totally overwhelm this country and turn it into a third world shithole. You want that for your kids? Just look at Europe. The same thing just happened there. |
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Post by Trades on Nov 1, 2018 9:12:35 GMT -5
Obviously the message and policies for the last 2 years hasn’t worked either because if they had this wouldn’t be occurring. The majority of the persons in the caravan are fleeing the drug cartels who are running their countries and threatening death if won’t fall in line. You think if they are told not only are you not welcome but your country is be8mg cut off too. There are wspays to to deal with people diplomatically. No. If we let them in the message will be come on in boys, the waters fine! And it wouldn’t stop until the entirety of the poor from Mexico, central and South America are in the US! We need to set the example by turning this horde back. If we don’t, there will be a migrant flood that will totally overwhelm this country and turn it into a third world shithole. You want that for your kids? Just look at Europe. The same thing just happened there. And importing all of those poor people and putting them on our social programs severely hurts out poor. It increases the entry level positions available for the poor to take advantage of the opportunities the American system provides and decreases the salaries for those job base on simple supply and demand. So this fake compassion for the poor is actually the worst thing for the poor we already have. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 9:12:58 GMT -5
Obviously the message and policies for the last 2 years hasn’t worked either because if they had this wouldn’t be occurring. The majority of the persons in the caravan are fleeing the drug cartels who are running their countries and threatening death if won’t fall in line. You think if they are told not only are you not welcome but your country is be8mg cut off too. There are wspays to to deal with people diplomatically. No. If we let them in the message will be come on in boys, the waters fine! And it wouldn’t stop until the entirety of the poor from Mexico, central and South America are in the US! We need to set the example by turning this horde back. If we don’t, there will be a migrant flood that will totally overwhelm this country and turn it into a third world shithole. You want that for your kids? Just look at Europe. The same thing just happened there. The current horde is 1000 miles away and walking, how many you think will actually make it. This is a different situation compared to the European scenario. Syria was and still getting the shit bombed out of it. Using military force will be a difficult way for our nation to respond. Where do you go from there? We have children all over we can’t account for and we need to get our shit together. |
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Post by Trades on Nov 1, 2018 10:07:24 GMT -5
No. If we let them in the message will be come on in boys, the waters fine! And it wouldn’t stop until the entirety of the poor from Mexico, central and South America are in the US! We need to set the example by turning this horde back. If we don’t, there will be a migrant flood that will totally overwhelm this country and turn it into a third world shithole. You want that for your kids? Just look at Europe. The same thing just happened there. The current horde is 1000 miles away and walking, how many you think will actually make it. This is a different situation compared to the European scenario. Syria was and still getting the shit bombed out of it. Using military force will be a difficult way for our nation to respond. Where do you go from there? We have children all over we can’t account for and we need to get our shit together. There is video of them loading on to trucks and trains. They aren't just walking. They are being aided. The military is supposedly mostly being used to augment the processing of the horde. They will probably be used as a wall as well since we can't get that funded. |
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Post by tkasper01 on Nov 1, 2018 10:32:37 GMT -5
The current horde is 1000 miles away and walking, how many you think will actually make it. This is a different situation compared to the European scenario. Syria was and still getting the shit bombed out of it. Using military force will be a difficult way for our nation to respond. Where do you go from there? We have children all over we can’t account for and we need to get our shit together. There is video of them loading on to trucks and trains. They aren't just walking. They are being aided. The military is supposedly mostly being used to augment the processing of the horde. They will probably be used as a wall as well since we can't get that funded. Federal law prevents a soldier from being used to enforce any us Law. They would have to invade Mexico prior to the horde reaching our border. The can do things like put up barriers and build tents and housing facilities but not much else. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 10:55:18 GMT -5
The current horde is 1000 miles away and walking, how many you think will actually make it. This is a different situation compared to the European scenario. Syria was and still getting the shit bombed out of it. Using military force will be a difficult way for our nation to respond. Where do you go from there? We have children all over we can’t account for and we need to get our shit together. There is video of them loading on to trucks and trains. They aren't just walking. They are being aided. The military is supposedly mostly being used to augment the processing of the horde. They will probably be used as a wall as well since we can't get that funded. Humanitarian groups have helped them survive. Mexico still won’t pay for the wall? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 10:56:43 GMT -5
There is video of them loading on to trucks and trains. They aren't just walking. They are being aided. The military is supposedly mostly being used to augment the processing of the horde. They will probably be used as a wall as well since we can't get that funded. Federal law prevents a soldier from being used to enforce any us Law. They would have to invade Mexico prior to the horde reaching our border. The can do things like put up barriers and build tents and housing facilities but not much else. Not like we aren’t fighting multiple wars right now. |
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Post by jay57 on Nov 1, 2018 11:09:41 GMT -5
There is video of them loading on to trucks and trains. They aren't just walking. They are being aided. The military is supposedly mostly being used to augment the processing of the horde. They will probably be used as a wall as well since we can't get that funded. Federal law prevents a soldier from being used to enforce any us Law. They would have to invade Mexico prior to the horde reaching our border. The can do things like put up barriers and build tents and housing facilities but not much else. I would hope our military can be used to stop an invasion, if not we are fucked. |
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