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Post by nyjets1969 on Apr 23, 2018 16:45:39 GMT -5
I don't think the Jets are taking Mayfield to much rumors tells me its a smokescreen I have a few senarios
I think the Jets want Darnold or Allen dont think they want Mayfield at all and Rosen they are on the fence on.
first senario
Allen Barkley Darnold
second senario
Darnold Barkley Allen
Third senario (this is a wild card senario Mike Florio presented his theory on a trade up that the Jets are not targeting a QB but Barkley
Allen Darnold Barkley
Yes I can see this happening the Jets get a gamechanger if both of their Idea QBs are off the board they take Barkley hope that Bridgewater recovers then go after Foles next year. Florio said it right you throw or hand the ball off 25 times a game to Barkley and you dont need a top level QB. I have a hard time believing the Jets traded up to take a 6ft tall QB that runs out of a Spread option offense who is not physically gifted like Vick was or even taking a risk on Rosen who has injury issues and Questionable attitude of giving a 100% towards football. I think they want Allen and thought he would fall now he is hyping to be #1 the Jets are worried someone will trade up and take Darnold 2nd forcing them to choose Mayfield or Rosen I think they will take Barkley and screw the public.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Apr 18, 2018 21:39:45 GMT -5
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Post by nyjets1969 on Apr 6, 2018 15:47:50 GMT -5
I think this is a smokescreen Rosen is clearly the highest ranked QB on the board only thing is his injury history. If this happens it would be a flashback to 83 draft anyone remember Dan Marino? Allen I could understand he is a guy that requires time to develop but Rosen could start day 1 and skill wise is miles ahead of Mayfield.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Apr 2, 2018 22:14:25 GMT -5
I rewatched the draft that had Blaine Gabbert & Jake Locker last night. Smelled like Josh Allen. Upside my ass. I'm not trading up into top 3 for a hope. People wanna compare Josh Allen to guys like Brett Farve & Big Ben, but when you mention Drew Brees or even Russell Wilson with Baker Mayfield, people wanna freak out with "you can't compare him to those guys!". Double standards like crazy. People wanna harp on Baker's offense but not mention that Mahomes was in a more gimmicky offense. Bring up maturity issues like these cats aren't all coming from college. How do we know the other guys don't have maturity issues when the camera is off them? At least you know what you're getting with Baker. Better than a surprise domestic violence accident or something. "Maturity issues" doesn't equal "character issues". Teammates & coaches love him. 100% agreed Allen is not a instant starter he is a guy that will have to sit for at least a year or 2 The Jets don't have that luxury right now Mccown hasn't played a whole season and Bridgewater is not even ready for workouts his knee isn't 100% so its likely whoever is drafted will be starting this season. Every scouting report says that Allen has to sit a year or 2. As much as Allen pure upside would kill me to pass on him I would go Mayfield knowing that I don't have the option to sit him for a year. With Baker you know he can play the Jets could adjust to a more scheme offense to fit Bakers ability just like the Eagles did with Foles who played in a spread offense. Baker Is ready to play day 1 and should bring some real competition to camp. Hackenberg was considered a real physical specimen with generational arm strength but had footwork and accuracy issues would need a year or 2 to sit sounds like another Hackenberg plus Wyoming isn't even in the same class as Penn State competition wise that should make you think really hard about that one.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 30, 2018 14:08:01 GMT -5
They taking the top 3 Allen, Rosen, or Darnold whoever is left. If by some chance they do the unthinkable and pick any other player they will be finished in NY. They know their careers depend on this pick Mac isnt a chance taker the one time he did it with Hackenberg it went bad. I dont even think he will draft Baker just too risky. They will stay safe pick 1 of the big 3 thats why they traded into the top 3 didnt give up a first round pick so it wasnt as costly as people portray it.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 29, 2018 6:23:50 GMT -5
Lets hope Macc aint that stupid and gullible Thats hoping for to much there. After reading about Bowles say there are 6 to 7 players we are targeting to draft after they traded up to 3 says they cant even set up a smoke screen right. Bottom line they were to stupid to tank the right way are inly hope is they fall on a QB but the will screw that up too.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 29, 2018 6:22:38 GMT -5
if the giants want chubb or barkley they would be idiots not to force the jets to swap places with them and steal a couple extra picks out of maccagnan, to cockblock any team offering the gints the moon to get that 2 pick. it's a no fucking brainer for gettleman... if and when he does it you heard it here first dickheads Lets hope Macc aint that stupid and gullible Thats hoping for to much there. After hearing Bowles say there are 6 to 7 players we are targeting to draft after they traded up to 3 says they cant even set up a smoke screen right. Bottom line they were to stupid to tank the right way are inly hope is they fall on a QB but the will screw that up too.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 27, 2018 14:56:09 GMT -5
I’m not taking a 6’0 QB with maturity concerns who hails from the most simplistic offense in college football over a kid who’s 6’5 240, possesses generational arm talent and freakish athleticism, and has 3 years of experience in a pro-style system where he routinely took shots downfield. That Hackenberg shit has completely warped Jets fans minds. Well if Josh Allen is what you described he wont be around by #3 so you wont have to worry about that.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 25, 2018 22:04:56 GMT -5
So was Drew Brees and Russell Wilson wonder if you would pass on them? even Aaron Rogers barely hits 6' 2 Drew Brees is a once in a generation qb. Russell Wilson is above average at best. I don't want him. The defense won that super bowl. Not him. And are you really comparing Rodgers to mayfield? Please say yes so I can mock you Yes I am saying that you cant base it on height it goes deeper then the guy is to short. You can draft Allen who fits the perfect NFL QB and he could turn out to be the next Hackenberg. Personally if we base it on height then Hackenberg and Glennon become the next Dan Marino. It goes deeper than that that what Mac gets paid the big bucks for to sit here and scout these guys. I be happy with any of these QBs I'm just pointing out what the experts are saying. I know one thing if Mac makes the wrong choice might as well find something else to do Sunday because this team is done for a decade.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 25, 2018 20:38:00 GMT -5
I just wish I had more confidence that Macc would pick the right guy, and that Bowles and his staff will be able to develop the guy. This in a nutshell. Mac already has a piss poor track record and by evaluating the moves he has made it's apparent that he has no plan. He was supposed to be this super scout that can build through the draft which we all know is the only successful way to build a team and his drafts suck balls. It's the whole reason we have a bazillion dollars in free agency yet again. Do you know what teams don't have massive amounts of cap space every couple of years?....it's the teams that draft good and have too pay for their great decisions(not directed at you). I won't even get into his free agent record. Then we have Bowles who can't even control a locker room and they have to jettison every player he doesn't mesh with......year after fucking year. We are close or maybe leading the league in arrests with all of these choir boys. I'll leave out his in game coaching and personnel decisions for another discussion. I've never hated being a Jets as much as with these two clowns running the show. If they were fired after the season at least I would have had a glimmer of hope.....now nothing. you summarized perfectly what is wrong with Mac and Bowles this is exactly why I felt this guy should have been kicked to the curb instead of handed an extension.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 25, 2018 20:32:14 GMT -5
So was Drew Brees and Russell Wilson wonder if you would pass on them? even Aaron Rogers barely hits 6' 2
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 25, 2018 20:24:40 GMT -5
LOL. Chris Johnson making better decisions than Mac. We are fucked come draft day with this moron in charge. Glad Johnson put a stop to this dumb decision by Mac the guy is 31 year old lock room cancer who is on decline. All this guy would do is come in and corrupt the whole team. Bowles was behind this too he has a thing for Suh but Mac is the bigger idiot for not saying no.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 23, 2018 12:46:14 GMT -5
Actually If Darnold not there I rather take Baker Mayfield Rosen's 2 Concussions and his Jay cutler attitude scare me. Plus the guy wants to be a Jet.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 23, 2018 12:15:50 GMT -5
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 17, 2018 10:44:08 GMT -5
When Im wrong I will have the balls to admit it. I made a post that said he wasnt drafting a QB. Maybe it was the owner maybe it was a angry fanbase like me that was sick of the crap. He did the right thing for once. Maybe people dont like losing the draft picks but its worth it the QB position is the hardest to draft when you have a chance to take a potential franchise QB in a draft that has 4 of them you do it no questions asked. So for once I give Macs props for doing the right thing.
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