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Post by Ff2 on Nov 19, 2019 13:03:27 GMT -5
Yes I absolutely am. I’ve said as much. I disagree with him. But believe he absolutely has the right to kneel. Forced patriotism is no patriotism. Seems like the issue is two different ideas of what the anthem means. I agree with you. The guy has a right to kneel or do whatever he wants. Which this right is afforded to him by the men and women who fight for it. And to me, the anthem is about respecting those men and women and a thank you for two minutes. To me, it seems as if the anthem to you means ‘yay America! Everything’s awesome! Also, if you wish to exercise your right to protest while at work and be disruptive, then don’t be surprised when your employer tells you there’s no work for you. Well, they don't play the national anthem at many workplaces, and I don't see kneeling as disruptive. I'm not sure why they play the anthem at sporting events to begin with. They usually say something about "honoring America", not specifically honoring the armed services or veterans. What that has to do with football I don't know. Anyway those who kneeled specifically said it wasn't about disrespecting the military.
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Post by 2foolish on Nov 19, 2019 15:17:03 GMT -5
You seem more concerned about his right to peaceful protest on his bosses dime... than the absolutely false narrative upon which his self-serving, pig-sock wearing antics are based. Not surprised at all. Yes I absolutely am. I’ve said as much. I disagree with him. But believe he absolutely has the right to kneel. Forced patriotism is no patriotism. he has no right no kneel on company property/dime...thats been settled a long time ago ....
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Post by Hotman on Nov 19, 2019 15:31:20 GMT -5
And teams have no right to avoid him? They have an absolute right to avoid him like the plague; He opted out of his own contract on his own volition, was not performing at a high level and was coming off a bunch of injuries. If he hadnt kneeled, he would be one of many who have ended their careers this way (which he damn well knew). You are lying... if you say you would voluntarily take on that circus as an NFL owner. I'll accede the NFL's hypocricy in many areas, but the sort of false narratives and hatred this idiot endorses (aided and abetted by the left-wing media) has divided this country and gotten people killed. Sharpton-Obama-Kaep. All variations on the same tired act which ultimately betrays the very people whose rights they purport to represent. Of course they can avoid him. I would too if I was an owner. But for once I'd like them to be honest about the why. Don't say its because he's not good enough. I'd like them admit that they gladly employee violent felons but not peaceful protestors. Thats all. Honesty huh? ? ? Cut your self rightious bullshit. You worship a team owned by a sex trafficking slave contributor who pays serial killers and known scum of the earth type people. Shut the fuck up with your high n mighty BS, hypocrite. I like you well enough but my issue with you is ur a fuckin hypocrite. And you know it.
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Post by 32Green on Nov 19, 2019 16:26:18 GMT -5
And teams have no right to avoid him? They have an absolute right to avoid him like the plague; He opted out of his own contract on his own volition, was not performing at a high level and was coming off a bunch of injuries. If he hadnt kneeled, he would be one of many who have ended their careers this way (which he damn well knew). You are lying... if you say you would voluntarily take on that circus as an NFL owner. I'll accede the NFL's hypocricy in many areas, but the sort of false narratives and hatred this idiot endorses (aided and abetted by the left-wing media) has divided this country and gotten people killed. Sharpton-Obama-Kaep. All variations on the same tired act which ultimately betrays the very people whose rights they purport to represent. Of course they can avoid him. I would too if I was an owner. But for once I'd like them to be honest about the why. Don't say its because he's not good enough. I'd like them admit that they gladly employee violent felons but not peaceful protestors. Thats all. Ive seen more than a few "violent felons" cut from teams (Miami waived Mark Walton today), so they are def. waking up to this sort of thing. If you're gonna use moral relativism to dismiss the odious, shameful message that Kaeperdick is sending (the pig socks told the real tale, dont believe his high horse hype), then I cant change your mind. And as I posted before, there is plenty of evidence Colin was no hot commodity when he opted out so there is nothing for NFL owners to "admit". If the NFL had the nutsack to nix Colins kneeling the same way they nixed the cowboys from honoring assassinated cops and Brandon Marshall from drawing attention to mental illness etc (see where we're going?) we wouldnt be dealing with any of this. This is not about free speech, it's about free speech for someone the media and the lib left agrees with...like we're seeing on campuses across the country.
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Post by Ff2 on Nov 19, 2019 17:46:47 GMT -5
Of course they can avoid him. I would too if I was an owner. But for once I'd like them to be honest about the why. Don't say its because he's not good enough. I'd like them admit that they gladly employee violent felons but not peaceful protestors. Thats all. Ive seen more than a few "violent felons" cut from teams (Miami waived Mark Walton today), so they are def. waking up to this sort of thing. If you're gonna use moral relativism to dismiss the odious, shameful message that Kaeperdick is sending (the pig socks told the real tale, dont believe his high horse hype), then I cant change your mind. And as I posted before, there is plenty of evidence Colin was no hot commodity when he opted out so there is nothing for NFL owners to "admit". If the NFL had the nutsack to nix Colins kneeling the same way they nixed the cowboys from honoring assassinated cops and Brandon Marshall from drawing attention to mental illness etc (see where we're going?) we wouldnt be dealing with any of this. This is not about free speech, it's about free speech for someone the media and the lib left agrees with...like we're seeing on campuses across the country. it was Walton 4th arrest this year so not sure how much awakening is going on. If you're halfway decent they give you a mighty long rope. Or if you're Tyreek Hill...."On April 26, 2019, Chiefs general manager Brett Veach announced that Hill was suspended from team activities as a result of the ongoing child abuse investigation. The NFL announced on July 19 that he will not be disciplined for the investigation because the league felt he did not violate the personal conduct policy." So child abuse...not a biggie. But no kneeling. And if we went strictly by talent you have to admit there's a roster spot for Colin.
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Post by 32Green on Nov 19, 2019 18:11:18 GMT -5
Ive seen more than a few "violent felons" cut from teams (Miami waived Mark Walton today), so they are def. waking up to this sort of thing. If you're gonna use moral relativism to dismiss the odious, shameful message that Kaeperdick is sending (the pig socks told the real tale, dont believe his high horse hype), then I cant change your mind. And as I posted before, there is plenty of evidence Colin was no hot commodity when he opted out so there is nothing for NFL owners to "admit". If the NFL had the nutsack to nix Colins kneeling the same way they nixed the cowboys from honoring assassinated cops and Brandon Marshall from drawing attention to mental illness etc (see where we're going?) we wouldnt be dealing with any of this. This is not about free speech, it's about free speech for someone the media and the lib left agrees with...like we're seeing on campuses across the country. it was Walton 4th arrest this year so not sure how much awakening is going on. If you're halfway decent they give you a mighty long rope. Or if you're Tyreek Hill...."On April 26, 2019, Chiefs general manager Brett Veach announced that Hill was suspended from team activities as a result of the ongoing child abuse investigation. The NFL announced on July 19 that he will not be disciplined for the investigation because the league felt he did not violate the personal conduct policy." So child abuse...not a biggie. But no kneeling. And if we went strictly by talent you have to admit there's a roster spot for Colin. On the Pats? Of course not, because Bill would never tolerate it...because he builds winning teams and knows how to do it...which you cant do with this sort of distraction..but the other NFL owners should pick him up because of his talent, amirite?
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Post by willis on Nov 19, 2019 18:38:41 GMT -5
What the hell is going on here ... talking and arguing about kneeling, about the military, about patriotism ... this is Jets Hampur!!!
It's fucking obvious that Kaepernik is of the generational culture that sees absolutely no difference between a dick and a cunt ... can't call him a penis head because he isn't sure what he has between his legs. So fuck this twat, and lets get back to Jets' business.
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Post by adpz on Nov 19, 2019 19:42:19 GMT -5
If you want to play football, play football. If you want to do social justice, do that. Maybe you can even do both. But don't mix them together.
Glory-whore aspects aside, proselytizing at work would get you fired from pretty much any job. Opting out of your contract doesn't help yo.
Did #CuntaKinte trend on Twitter??
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Post by vin on Nov 19, 2019 19:47:57 GMT -5
Seems like the issue is two different ideas of what the anthem means. I agree with you. The guy has a right to kneel or do whatever he wants. Which this right is afforded to him by the men and women who fight for it. And to me, the anthem is about respecting those men and women and a thank you for two minutes. To me, it seems as if the anthem to you means ‘yay America! Everything’s awesome! Also, if you wish to exercise your right to protest while at work and be disruptive, then don’t be surprised when your employer tells you there’s no work for you. Well, they don't play the national anthem at many workplaces, and I don't see kneeling as disruptive. I'm not sure why they play the anthem at sporting events to begin with. They usually say something about "honoring America", not specifically honoring the armed services or veterans. What that has to do with football I don't know. Anyway those who kneeled specifically said it wasn't about disrespecting the military. The American Flag encompasses ALL :
1.) America
2.) The Armed Services or Veterans who serve AND DIED for this country
3.) Our Freedom to express ourselves
4.) The Freedom to call Kaeperdick a cocksucking motherfucker who was actually practicing his cuck'ing skills (kneeling) for his GF's real boyfriend. (Kneeling to them both)
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Post by Big L on Nov 19, 2019 20:46:05 GMT -5
Seems like the issue is two different ideas of what the anthem means. I agree with you. The guy has a right to kneel or do whatever he wants. Which this right is afforded to him by the men and women who fight for it. And to me, the anthem is about respecting those men and women and a thank you for two minutes. To me, it seems as if the anthem to you means ‘yay America! Everything’s awesome! Also, if you wish to exercise your right to protest while at work and be disruptive, then don’t be surprised when your employer tells you there’s no work for you. Well, they don't play the national anthem at many workplaces, and I don't see kneeling as disruptive. I'm not sure why they play the anthem at sporting events to begin with. They usually say something about "honoring America", not specifically honoring the armed services or veterans. What that has to do with football I don't know. Anyway those who kneeled specifically said it wasn't about disrespecting the military.But to millions, it is. They should have been more tolerant and accepting of others views, just as they are asking of others themselves. Not like 1 or 2 people were offended.
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Post by 32Green on Nov 19, 2019 21:53:25 GMT -5
Well, they don't play the national anthem at many workplaces, and I don't see kneeling as disruptive. I'm not sure why they play the anthem at sporting events to begin with. They usually say something about "honoring America", not specifically honoring the armed services or veterans. What that has to do with football I don't know. Anyway those who kneeled specifically said it wasn't about disrespecting the military.But to millions, it is. They should have been more tolerant and accepting of others views, just as they are asking of others themselves. Not like 1 or 2 people were offended. Xactly. I'll reiterate, if the media and libs disagreed with this stance, and the NFL had any balls, Kaep would be the tallest burger-flipper in his town, and rightly so. Its not his purported "stance" that irks, (who doesnt want social justice?). Its the fact he's a spoiled, ill-informed, hypocritical, immature, attention-seeking, cry-baby whose racial divisiveness does real-world damage...irks. Methinks his real problem is the daddy that abandoned him and that's another democratically created tale of woe.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Nov 20, 2019 2:09:53 GMT -5
The dude is at best a back up. Coaches want their back ups to blend in with the furniture. No coach wants to spend half of his press conferences talking about how his back up is blending in, is he accepting his role..etc. Now with the switcheroo of his practice location he just pulled it's clear he doesn't want to play and missed an opportunity to show he wouldn't be a distraction. Goodbye.
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Post by Hotman on Nov 20, 2019 7:44:23 GMT -5
But to millions, it is. They should have been more tolerant and accepting of others views, just as they are asking of others themselves. Not like 1 or 2 people were offended. Xactly. I'll reiterate, if the media and libs disagreed with this stance, and the NFL had any balls, Kaep would be the tallest burger-flipper in his town, and rightly so. Its not his purported "stance" that irks, (who doesnt want social justice?). Its the fact he's a spoiled, ill-informed, hypocritical, immature, attention-seeking, cry-baby whose racial divisiveness does real-world damage...irks. Methinks his real problem is the daddy that abandoned him and that's another democratically created tale of woe. Nothin but net greenie nothin but net
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Nov 20, 2019 8:36:42 GMT -5
Mods - please move this to the politics and religion thread. That’s where this really belongs.
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Post by tkasper01 on Nov 20, 2019 9:01:50 GMT -5
But to millions, it is. They should have been more tolerant and accepting of others views, just as they are asking of others themselves. Not like 1 or 2 people were offended. Xactly. I'll reiterate, if the media and libs disagreed with this stance, and the NFL had any balls, Kaep would be the tallest burger-flipper in his town, and rightly so. Its not his purported "stance" that irks, (who doesnt want social justice?). Its the fact he's a spoiled, ill-informed, hypocritical, immature, attention-seeking, cry-baby whose racial divisiveness does real-world damage...irks. Methinks his real problem is the daddy that abandoned him and that's another democratically created tale of woe. Not since Rozelle.
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