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Post by Raoul Duke on Nov 13, 2023 12:11:40 GMT -5
WTF - lol that can't possibly be his throwing motion can it? That's like Elaine dancing on Seinfeld if it is, pls never let him anywhere near a flea-flicker again No, it was taken from Hard Knocks where they were imitating Rodgers and Zack doing no look passes.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Nov 13, 2023 13:20:39 GMT -5
This is fugly
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Nov 13, 2023 13:23:48 GMT -5
Terrible play call for sure. Nothing Creative about it at all. Not even remotely
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Post by shakin on Nov 13, 2023 13:58:41 GMT -5
jesus that reminds me of street football when i was qb and didn't like the kids on my team
"everybody go deep, i'll fake it to ya"
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Post by Big L on Nov 13, 2023 14:21:56 GMT -5
LoL
‘Everyone, go deep’
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Post by Trades on Nov 13, 2023 14:31:08 GMT -5
Jets version is "everyone go short of the 1st down marker"
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Post by DDNYjets on Nov 13, 2023 14:35:03 GMT -5
Wouldnt it be hilarious if Hackett's plan was to just take all Madden plays then let Rodgers audible to whatever he wants.
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Post by 32Green on Nov 13, 2023 14:54:55 GMT -5
Seems like he was pre-determined to go to Lazard and Lazard's rub/collision threw off the route. Also Lazard should be working his way back to the football, especially if he was forced to take the route deeper. That isnt open enough to just sit down. But thats what happens when you have a backup QB and a #3 WR who are both struggling. Precisely Bart Scott's take today. Basically said Lazard was lazy and didnt help Wilson at all there. But this wont get called out in film review by coaches because...Rodgers.
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Post by adpz on Nov 13, 2023 15:12:42 GMT -5
Seems like he was pre-determined to go to Lazard and Lazard's rub/collision threw off the route. Also Lazard should be working his way back to the football, especially if he was forced to take the route deeper. That isnt open enough to just sit down. But thats what happens when you have a backup QB and a #3 WR who are both struggling. Precisely Bart Scott's take today. Basically said Lazard was lazy and didnt help Wilson at all there. But this wont get called out in film review by coaches because...Rodgers. For a guy of his size, Lazard plays so soft. He never fights for balls.
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Post by Big L on Nov 13, 2023 16:28:52 GMT -5
Salad says ZW played good and a change for sake of change makes no sense, because of a host of other things.
Um, coach? ZWs job is to get the ball in to the end zone. He’s the guy responsible on the field. He’s not getting his job done with any effectiveness. He should be removed from his position. Immediately
How does salad not get that ZW is not getting the job done?
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Post by Jetworks on Nov 13, 2023 20:57:51 GMT -5
Salad says ZW played good and a change for sake of change makes no sense, because of a host of other things. Um, coach? ZWs job is to get the ball in to the end zone. He’s the guy responsible on the field. He’s not getting his job done with any effectiveness. He should be removed from his position. Immediately How does salad not get that ZW is not getting the job done? You saw that almost every drive stalled due to a penalty (including the TD) or poor execution across the board, right? Wilson wasn't great, but he wasn't the reason they lost (beyond the INT of course). Line could open a hole to save their life, Uzomah(!), Lazard(!), some the playcalls were head scratchers (GW hurt his arm, so WR pass!?!? 4 deep 9 routes?!?!), hell even GW had a couple of drops. At this point, let it all hang out with ZW and just hope for the best. The half measures aren't cutting it, the D is being wasted, and the coaching needs to be tightened up. Get that going in the right direction and maybe we can see some of this talent put to good use
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Post by bxjetfan on Nov 13, 2023 21:24:47 GMT -5
Salad says ZW played good and a change for sake of change makes no sense, because of a host of other things. Um, coach? ZWs job is to get the ball in to the end zone. He’s the guy responsible on the field. He’s not getting his job done with any effectiveness. He should be removed from his position. Immediately How does salad not get that ZW is not getting the job done? You saw that almost every drive stalled due to a penalty (including the TD) or poor execution across the board, right? Wilson wasn't great, but he wasn't the reason they lost (beyond the INT of course). Line could open a hole to save their life, Uzomah(!), Lazard(!), some the playcalls were head scratchers (GW hurt his arm, so WR pass!?!? 4 deep 9 routes?!?!), hell even GW had a couple of drops. At this point, let it all hang out with ZW and just hope for the best. The half measures aren't cutting it, the D is being wasted, and the coaching needs to be tightened up. Get that going in the right direction and maybe we can see some of this talent put to good use If Lazard could have caught that in stride he would have gotten another 20 yards.
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Post by Jetworks on Nov 13, 2023 21:45:30 GMT -5
You saw that almost every drive stalled due to a penalty (including the TD) or poor execution across the board, right? Wilson wasn't great, but he wasn't the reason they lost (beyond the INT of course). Line could open a hole to save their life, Uzomah(!), Lazard(!), some the playcalls were head scratchers (GW hurt his arm, so WR pass!?!? 4 deep 9 routes?!?!), hell even GW had a couple of drops. At this point, let it all hang out with ZW and just hope for the best. The half measures aren't cutting it, the D is being wasted, and the coaching needs to be tightened up. Get that going in the right direction and maybe we can see some of this talent put to good use If Lazard could have caught that in stride he would have gotten another 20 yards. Dude seems checked out to me as of late.
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Post by Big L on Nov 14, 2023 3:59:18 GMT -5
Salad says ZW played good and a change for sake of change makes no sense, because of a host of other things. Um, coach? ZWs job is to get the ball in to the end zone. He’s the guy responsible on the field. He’s not getting his job done with any effectiveness. He should be removed from his position. Immediately How does salad not get that ZW is not getting the job done? You saw that almost every drive stalled due to a penalty (including the TD) or poor execution across the board, right? Wilson wasn't great, but he wasn't the reason they lost (beyond the INT of course). Line could open a hole to save their life, Uzomah(!), Lazard(!), some the playcalls were head scratchers (GW hurt his arm, so WR pass!?!? 4 deep 9 routes?!?!), hell even GW had a couple of drops. At this point, let it all hang out with ZW and just hope for the best. The half measures aren't cutting it, the D is being wasted, and the coaching needs to be tightened up. Get that going in the right direction and maybe we can see some of this talent put to good use I agree with what you’re saying; there’s many variables at work here. It’s (way past) time to (at least) change the variable that has had multiple chances to do the job and can’t do it. We will never know, but I bet you’d see at least marginally better success on offense if Wilson was not behind center. And if not, you’ve lost nothing. Nothing lost, nothing gained. Additionally considering what other teams around the league have done with backup QBs, I don’t think what I’m saying is that unreasonable. Are the backups better than ZW? Who knows We’ll never know. But they might provide a spark/change the chemistry equation and maybe wind up with at least pink play-doh instead of the same brown dog shit every week. They’ve been trying to fix the th8ngs you mention for weeks and have gotten no where. Time to make more difficult changes. also Hackett should go from the sideline and sit in the booth, maybe get a different perspective on how the game is going, and maybe not make as many baffling play calls.
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Post by Jetworks on Nov 14, 2023 7:41:47 GMT -5
You saw that almost every drive stalled due to a penalty (including the TD) or poor execution across the board, right? Wilson wasn't great, but he wasn't the reason they lost (beyond the INT of course). Line could open a hole to save their life, Uzomah(!), Lazard(!), some the playcalls were head scratchers (GW hurt his arm, so WR pass!?!? 4 deep 9 routes?!?!), hell even GW had a couple of drops. At this point, let it all hang out with ZW and just hope for the best. The half measures aren't cutting it, the D is being wasted, and the coaching needs to be tightened up. Get that going in the right direction and maybe we can see some of this talent put to good use I agree with what you’re saying; there’s many variables at work here. It’s (way past) time to (at least) change the variable that has had multiple chances to do the job and can’t do it. We will never know, but I bet you’d see at least marginally better success on offense if Wilson was not behind center. And if not, you’ve lost nothing. Nothing lost, nothing gained. Additionally considering what other teams around the league have done with backup QBs, I don’t think what I’m saying is that unreasonable. Are the backups better than ZW? Who knows We’ll never know. But they might provide a spark/change the chemistry equation and maybe wind up with at least pink play-doh instead of the same brown dog shit every week. They’ve been trying to fix the th8ngs you mention for weeks and have gotten no where. Time to make more difficult changes. also Hackett should go from the sideline and sit in the booth, maybe get a different perspective on how the game is going, and maybe not make as many baffling play calls. I get it, but I think swapping ZW out at this point, with those other variables still in play, results in disaster for multiple reasons. First, I don't think we even see marginal gains, but to your point that part is a wash then. Here's why I disagree though; it strengthens the voice (and further lends credence) of those who said that this isn't really Wilson's fault (at least this year). Another, and bigger reason is the AR effect. We are now seeing in real time people trashing 'his guys', which of course is a reflection on him. ZW is now one of his guys. Remove him, and it's another hit to AR and his ego/voice. Same goes for Hackett at this point it would seem. One can negate the other as far as who is at fault, but eventually it can boil down to both are bad. No easy solutions with any of this, as usual. The variables (especially the OL and lack of separation by WRs) are significant for any team, let alone one playing a backup QB who hoped to be learning from his HoF mentor. For that reason alone I think ZW deserves to stay as the starter (which apparently makes me a truther reading some things on X).
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