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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Jan 23, 2015 14:32:09 GMT -5
NFL issues statement on Deflategate investigation
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 23, 2015, 1:46 PM EST
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The NFL issued the following statement on Friday afternoon in response to inquiries about “Deflategate”:
“Our office has been conducting an investigation as to whether the footballs used in last Sunday’s AFC Championship Game complied with the specifications that are set forth in the playing rules. The investigation began based on information that suggested that the game balls used by the New England Deflatriots were not properly inflated to levels required by the playing rules, specifically Playing Rule 2, Section 1, which requires that the ball be inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch. Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday’s game.
“The investigation is being led jointly by NFL Executive Vice President Jeff Pash and Ted Wells of the law firm of Paul Weiss. Mr. Wells and his firm bring additional expertise and a valuable independent perspective. The investigation began promptly on Sunday night. Over the past several days, nearly 40 interviews have been conducted, including of Deflatriots personnel, game officials, and third parties with relevant information and expertise. We have obtained and are continuing to obtain additional information, including video and other electronic information and physical evidence. We have retained Renaissance Associates, an investigatory firm with sophisticated forensic expertise to assist in reviewing electronic and video information.
“The playing rules are intended to protect the fairness and integrity of our games. We take seriously claims that those rules have been violated and will fully investigate this matter without compromise or delay. The investigation is ongoing, will be thorough and objective, and is being pursued expeditiously. In the coming days, we expect to conduct numerous additional interviews, examine video and other forensic evidence, as well as relevant physical evidence. While the evidence thus far supports the conclusion that footballs that were under-inflated were used by the Deflatriots in the first half, the footballs were properly inflated for the second half and confirmed at the conclusion of the game to have remained properly inflated. The goals of the investigation will be to determine the explanation for why footballs used in the game were not in compliance with the playing rules and specifically whether any noncompliance was the result of deliberate action. We have not made any judgments on these points and will not do so until we have concluded our investigation and considered all of the relevant evidence.
“Upon being advised of the investigation, the Deflatriots promptly pledged their full cooperation and have made their personnel and other information available to us upon request. Our investigation will seek information from any and all relevant sources and we expect full cooperation from other clubs as well. As we develop more information and are in a position to reach conclusions, we will share them publicly.”
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Post by adpz on Jan 23, 2015 14:33:48 GMT -5
Why no interview of Brady???
WHEN will Brady be interviewed??
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Post by choon328 on Jan 23, 2015 14:40:22 GMT -5
NFL issues statement on Deflategate investigation Posted by Michael David Smith on January 23, 2015, 1:46 PM EST deflated-football Getty Images The NFL issued the following statement on Friday afternoon in response to inquiries about “Deflategate”: “Our office has been conducting an investigation as to whether the footballs used in last Sunday’s AFC Championship Game complied with the specifications that are set forth in the playing rules. The investigation began based on information that suggested that the game balls used by the New England Deflatriots were not properly inflated to levels required by the playing rules, specifically Playing Rule 2, Section 1, which requires that the ball be inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch. Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday’s game. “The investigation is being led jointly by NFL Executive Vice President Jeff Pash and Ted Wells of the law firm of Paul Weiss. Mr. Wells and his firm bring additional expertise and a valuable independent perspective. The investigation began promptly on Sunday night. Over the past several days, nearly 40 interviews have been conducted, including of Deflatriots personnel, game officials, and third parties with relevant information and expertise. We have obtained and are continuing to obtain additional information, including video and other electronic information and physical evidence. We have retained Renaissance Associates, an investigatory firm with sophisticated forensic expertise to assist in reviewing electronic and video information. “The playing rules are intended to protect the fairness and integrity of our games. We take seriously claims that those rules have been violated and will fully investigate this matter without compromise or delay. The investigation is ongoing, will be thorough and objective, and is being pursued expeditiously. In the coming days, we expect to conduct numerous additional interviews, examine video and other forensic evidence, as well as relevant physical evidence. While the evidence thus far supports the conclusion that footballs that were under-inflated were used by the Deflatriots in the first half, the footballs were properly inflated for the second half and confirmed at the conclusion of the game to have remained properly inflated. The goals of the investigation will be to determine the explanation for why footballs used in the game were not in compliance with the playing rules and specifically whether any noncompliance was the result of deliberate action. We have not made any judgments on these points and will not do so until we have concluded our investigation and considered all of the relevant evidence. “Upon being advised of the investigation, the Deflatriots promptly pledged their full cooperation and have made their personnel and other information available to us upon request. Our investigation will seek information from any and all relevant sources and we expect full cooperation from other clubs as well. As we develop more information and are in a position to reach conclusions, we will share them publicly.” They are admitting here that the balls were altered after they were given to the Patriots. So at the very least they should get an organizational penalty which should be a substantial fine and loss of draft pick(s). They are looking to find out who exactly did it and if they were given a directive to do it by a player or staff member. But none of this will come out till after the Super Bowl.
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Post by Ff2 on Jan 23, 2015 14:47:03 GMT -5
Using the ideal gas law, a ball that was filled in a 75 F room to 12.5 psi would be at 10.97 psi at 45F. Most people doing the calculation don't realize that the ideal gas law obeys absolute pressure, not pressure above atmospheric. You have to add atmospheric pressure (14.7) psi to get absolute pressure.
P1gauge = Pressure when ball is inflated equals 12.5 psi. P1absolute = P1guage + 14.7psi which is pressure at sea level and is close enough. P2absolute and P2guage are to be solved for.
T1 = 75F = 23.88C = 297.04K T2 = 45F = 7.22C - 280.37K
Assume Pats inflated the balls to 12.5 psi P1g =12.5 psig p1a = 12.5 +14.7 = 27.2 psi absolute
ideal gas law says PV=mRT. R is a Constant and assume the mass of air in the ball stayed the same and the volume of the ball was relatively a constant although it might change a miniscule amount.
So P2a/P1a = T2Kelvin/T1Kelvin solve for P2a = T2/T1 * P1
T2/T1 = 280.37/297.04 = 0.9439
P2a = 27.2 * 0.0439 = 25.67
P2g = P2a - 14.7 = 10.97 psi gauge!!!!! Almost exactly what was measured.
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Post by Ff2 on Jan 23, 2015 14:48:42 GMT -5
OK, so throw out the score from the first half.
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Post by adpz on Jan 23, 2015 14:51:58 GMT -5
OK, so throw out the score from the first half. Along with the laws of physics. But just for the first half. . .
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Post by jetfan39 on Jan 23, 2015 14:52:55 GMT -5
OK, so throw out the score from the first half. nice try. better luck next time you cheat
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Post by nyahaybus on Jan 23, 2015 15:03:50 GMT -5
Using the ideal gas law, a ball that was filled in a 75 F room to 12.5 psi would be at 10.97 psi at 45F. Most people doing the calculation don't realize that the ideal gas law obeys absolute pressure, not pressure above atmospheric. You have to add atmospheric pressure (14.7) psi to get absolute pressure. P1gauge = Pressure when ball is inflated equals 12.5 psi. P1absolute = P1guage + 14.7psi which is pressure at sea level and is close enough. P2absolute and P2guage are to be solved for. T1 = 75F = 23.88C = 297.04K T2 = 45F = 7.22C - 280.37K Assume Flats* inflated the balls to 12.5 psi P1g =12.5 psig p1a = 12.5 +14.7 = 27.2 psi absolute ideal gas law says PV=mRT. R is a Constant and assume the mass of air in the ball stayed the same and the volume of the ball was relatively a constant although it might change a miniscule amount. So P2a/P1a = T2Kelvin/T1Kelvin solve for P2a = T2/T1 * P1 T2/T1 = 280.37/297.04 = 0.9439 P2a = 27.2 * 0.0439 = 25.67 P2g = P2a - 14.7 = 10.97 psi gauge!!!!! Almost exactly what was measured. What a dumb fuck you are you Cockgobling patriots fan. You fucked up the calculation by mixing SI units (Celsius temp scale) with English units of pressure (lbs./square inch). You've proven nothing but how stupid you are. Shut the fuck up, take a fucking lap, and get back on the deep fryer.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 23, 2015 15:09:19 GMT -5
NFL issues statement on Deflategate investigation Posted by Michael David Smith on January 23, 2015, 1:46 PM EST deflated-football Getty Images The NFL issued the following statement on Friday afternoon in response to inquiries about “Deflategate”: “Our office has been conducting an investigation as to whether the footballs used in last Sunday’s AFC Championship Game complied with the specifications that are set forth in the playing rules. The investigation began based on information that suggested that the game balls used by the New England Deflatriots were not properly inflated to levels required by the playing rules, specifically Playing Rule 2, Section 1, which requires that the ball be inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch. Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday’s game. “The investigation is being led jointly by NFL Executive Vice President Jeff Pash and Ted Wells of the law firm of Paul Weiss. Mr. Wells and his firm bring additional expertise and a valuable independent perspective. The investigation began promptly on Sunday night. Over the past several days, nearly 40 interviews have been conducted, including of Deflatriots personnel, game officials, and third parties with relevant information and expertise. We have obtained and are continuing to obtain additional information, including video and other electronic information and physical evidence. We have retained Renaissance Associates, an investigatory firm with sophisticated forensic expertise to assist in reviewing electronic and video information. “The playing rules are intended to protect the fairness and integrity of our games. We take seriously claims that those rules have been violated and will fully investigate this matter without compromise or delay. The investigation is ongoing, will be thorough and objective, and is being pursued expeditiously. In the coming days, we expect to conduct numerous additional interviews, examine video and other forensic evidence, as well as relevant physical evidence. While the evidence thus far supports the conclusion that footballs that were under-inflated were used by the Deflatriots in the first half, the footballs were properly inflated for the second half and confirmed at the conclusion of the game to have remained properly inflated. The goals of the investigation will be to determine the explanation for why footballs used in the game were not in compliance with the playing rules and specifically whether any noncompliance was the result of deliberate action. We have not made any judgments on these points and will not do so until we have concluded our investigation and considered all of the relevant evidence. “Upon being advised of the investigation, the Deflatriots promptly pledged their full cooperation and have made their personnel and other information available to us upon request. Our investigation will seek information from any and all relevant sources and we expect full cooperation from other clubs as well. As we develop more information and are in a position to reach conclusions, we will share them publicly.” They are admitting here that the balls were altered after they were given to the Deflatriots. So at the very least they should get an organizational penalty which should be a substantial fine and loss of draft pick(s). They are looking to find out who exactly did it and if they were given a directive to do it by a player or staff member. But none of this will come out till after the Super Bowl. And that destroys the rationalization that it didn't make a difference in the outcome of the game because the Colts played so poorly. The strategy is obvious - go up fast in the first half with a big lead, once the Colts were fachaded, substitute the correct ones and let the Colts hopelessly play catchup. What I don't get is how did the NFL get hold of the balls from the first half? Weren't they reinflated for the second half?
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Post by vin on Jan 23, 2015 15:10:34 GMT -5
NFL issues statement on Deflategate investigation Posted by Michael David Smith on January 23, 2015, 1:46 PM EST deflated-football Getty Images The NFL issued the following statement on Friday afternoon in response to inquiries about “Deflategate”: “Our office has been conducting an investigation as to whether the footballs used in last Sunday’s AFC Championship Game complied with the specifications that are set forth in the playing rules. The investigation began based on information that suggested that the game balls used by the New England Deflatriots were not properly inflated to levels required by the playing rules, specifically Playing Rule 2, Section 1, which requires that the ball be inflated to between 12.5 and 13.5 pounds per square inch. Prior to the game, the game officials inspect the footballs to be used by each team and confirm that this standard is satisfied, which was done before last Sunday’s game. “The investigation is being led jointly by NFL Executive Vice President Jeff Pash and Ted Wells of the law firm of Paul Weiss. Mr. Wells and his firm bring additional expertise and a valuable independent perspective. The investigation began promptly on Sunday night. Over the past several days, nearly 40 interviews have been conducted, including of Deflatriots personnel, game officials, and third parties with relevant information and expertise. We have obtained and are continuing to obtain additional information, including video and other electronic information and physical evidence. We have retained Renaissance Associates, an investigatory firm with sophisticated forensic expertise to assist in reviewing electronic and video information. “The playing rules are intended to protect the fairness and integrity of our games. We take seriously claims that those rules have been violated and will fully investigate this matter without compromise or delay. The investigation is ongoing, will be thorough and objective, and is being pursued expeditiously. In the coming days, we expect to conduct numerous additional interviews, examine video and other forensic evidence, as well as relevant physical evidence. While the evidence thus far supports the conclusion that footballs that were under-inflated were used by the Deflatriots in the first half, the footballs were properly inflated for the second half and confirmed at the conclusion of the game to have remained properly inflated. The goals of the investigation will be to determine the explanation for why footballs used in the game were not in compliance with the playing rules and specifically whether any noncompliance was the result of deliberate action. We have not made any judgments on these points and will not do so until we have concluded our investigation and considered all of the relevant evidence. “Upon being advised of the investigation, the Deflatriots promptly pledged their full cooperation and have made their personnel and other information available to us upon request. Our investigation will seek information from any and all relevant sources and we expect full cooperation from other clubs as well. As we develop more information and are in a position to reach conclusions, we will share them publicly.” They are admitting here that the balls were altered after they were given to the Deflatriots. So at the very least they should get an organizational penalty which should be a substantial fine and loss of draft pick(s). They are looking to find out who exactly did it and if they were given a directive to do it by a player or staff member. But none of this will come out till after the Super Bowl. Which means the fucking pats may end up with another SB trophy and then get "punished" after the fact. BULLSHIT. SUSPEND BRADY, DAMMIT!
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Post by choon328 on Jan 23, 2015 15:12:15 GMT -5
#1-No locker room in football history would be kept at 75 degrees, more like 65 degrees. #2-You can use all the physics you want but how come only the Patriots balls were lost air? The Colts footballs got the same exact treatment from the refs as the Patriots did. Wouldn't they have similar results?
#3-When the Patriots used the 2nd set of 12 footballs, that were properly inflated, in the 2nd half they were re-tested again along with the Colts original 12 at the end of the game and no air pressure was missing from those balls used in the 2nd half. Why didn't they deflate on their own again? How did the Colts balls survive 4 hours of weather and gameplay but the Patriots balls couldn't survive 2 hours of similar weather and gameplay?
Now here comes the "The refs didn't properly check to see if the balls were in compliance".
Well here's the thing with that. The Patriots give the officials the footballs at exactly how they want them for the game. Which just doesn't mean for grip purposes, it also means how much air is in it. Even Tom Brady said himself that he likes 12.5 psi in each ball. The officials don't do that for you, they only check to see if it falls in an acceptable range. So that means Patriots officials inflate the balls to the proper specs of Brady. So let's say for arguments sake that the official didn't check the balls with a gauge prior to the game and just gave them the eye ball test. Aren't the Patriots still responsible for inflating the balls to it's proper psi? So that means they, on purpose, inflated the ball 2 psi less than what is acceptable. Either way, they either didn't originally have them properly inflated or they did have them inflated and then took air out of them. So they're cheaters either way. Although we didn't need deflated footballs to already know that.
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Post by Fishooked on Jan 23, 2015 15:12:45 GMT -5
Using the ideal gas law, a ball that was filled in a 75 F room to 12.5 psi would be at 10.97 psi at 45F. Most people doing the calculation don't realize that the ideal gas law obeys absolute pressure, not pressure above atmospheric. You have to add atmospheric pressure (14.7) psi to get absolute pressure. P1gauge = Pressure when ball is inflated equals 12.5 psi. P1absolute = P1guage + 14.7psi which is pressure at sea level and is close enough. P2absolute and P2guage are to be solved for. T1 = 75F = 23.88C = 297.04K T2 = 45F = 7.22C - 280.37K Assume Flats* inflated the balls to 12.5 psi P1g =12.5 psig p1a = 12.5 +14.7 = 27.2 psi absolute ideal gas law says PV=mRT. R is a Constant and assume the mass of air in the ball stayed the same and the volume of the ball was relatively a constant although it might change a miniscule amount. So P2a/P1a = T2Kelvin/T1Kelvin solve for P2a = T2/T1 * P1 T2/T1 = 280.37/297.04 = 0.9439 P2a = 27.2 * 0.0439 = 25.67 P2g = P2a - 14.7 = 10.97 psi gauge!!!!! Almost exactly what was measured. What a dumb fuck you are you Cockgobling Deflatriots fan. You fucked up the calculation by mixing SI units (Celsius temp scale) with English units of pressure (lbs./square inch). You've proven nothing but how stupid you are. Shut the fuck up, take a fucking lap, and get back on the deep fryer.
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Post by choon328 on Jan 23, 2015 15:14:50 GMT -5
They are admitting here that the balls were altered after they were given to the Deflatriots. So at the very least they should get an organizational penalty which should be a substantial fine and loss of draft pick(s). They are looking to find out who exactly did it and if they were given a directive to do it by a player or staff member. But none of this will come out till after the Super Bowl. And that destroys the rationalization that it didn't make a difference in the outcome of the game because the Colts played so poorly. The strategy is obvious - go up fast in the first half with a big lead, once the Colts were fachaded, substitute the correct ones and let the Colts hopelessly play catchup. What I don't get is how did the NFL get hold of the balls from the first half? Weren't they reinflated for the second half? No, each team gets roughly 24 balls each game depending on weather conditions. And for this game they got 24 footballs each. The refs made the Patriots use the 2nd set of 12 footballs for the second half and league officials confiscated the first set of 12.
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Post by JetBidi on Jan 23, 2015 15:19:28 GMT -5
Using the ideal gas law, a ball that was filled in a 75 F room to 12.5 psi would be at 10.97 psi at 45F. Most people doing the calculation don't realize that the ideal gas law obeys absolute pressure, not pressure above atmospheric. You have to add atmospheric pressure (14.7) psi to get absolute pressure. P1gauge = Pressure when ball is inflated equals 12.5 psi. P1absolute = P1guage + 14.7psi which is pressure at sea level and is close enough. P2absolute and P2guage are to be solved for. T1 = 75F = 23.88C = 297.04K T2 = 45F = 7.22C - 280.37K Assume Flats* inflated the balls to 12.5 psi P1g =12.5 psig p1a = 12.5 +14.7 = 27.2 psi absolute ideal gas law says PV=mRT. R is a Constant and assume the mass of air in the ball stayed the same and the volume of the ball was relatively a constant although it might change a miniscule amount. So P2a/P1a = T2Kelvin/T1Kelvin solve for P2a = T2/T1 * P1 T2/T1 = 280.37/297.04 = 0.9439 P2a = 27.2 * 0.0439 = 25.67 P2g = P2a - 14.7 = 10.97 psi gauge!!!!! Almost exactly what was measured. What was the room temp in the Colts locker room? They like it pretty nippy in there huh?
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Post by rexneffect on Jan 23, 2015 15:23:46 GMT -5
You don't even have to look at the bunk math to know that any attempt to explain the deflation that doesn't explain how the Colts balls, under the same conditions, did not deflate in the same manner is garbage. Similarly if the explanation for how some of the Pats balls were fully inflated and others were not does not account for that variance, it is also garbage.
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