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Post by Fishooked on Feb 19, 2015 12:59:38 GMT -5
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Post by joepnyj1 on Feb 19, 2015 13:07:06 GMT -5
Jeez now Winslow? What a stroke of bad luck..
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Post by DDNYjets on Feb 19, 2015 13:08:24 GMT -5
Winslow is an asshole and CJ2K was a bust but I wouldn't be surprised if they were telling the truth.
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Post by tkasper01 on Feb 19, 2015 14:13:51 GMT -5
Jeez now Winslow? What a stroke of bad luck.. I see what you did there |
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Post by rangerous on Feb 20, 2015 7:02:24 GMT -5
so cimini is defending idzik? it sounds like he's not putting a whole lot of credibility into what winslow and johnson have said. he also managed to defend geno by saying winslow wasn't available so geno could develop some catching chemistry. the thing is that while players tend to say foolish things it's plenty clear that idzik was trying to control things on the field a little more than talking heads like cimini are giving him credit for. the part about geno is more than a bit astounding. i guess geno didn't have any chemistry with any of the receivers based on the way he played. we'll see what happen but geno needs to take more responsibility for his short comings and get his game straightened out before he or the talking heads start blaming the receivers.
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Post by Fishooked on Feb 20, 2015 9:00:51 GMT -5
so cimini is defending idzik? it sounds like he's not putting a whole lot of credibility into what winslow and johnson have said. he also managed to defend geno by saying winslow wasn't available so geno could develop some catching chemistry. the thing is that while players tend to say foolish things it's plenty clear that idzik was trying to control things on the field a little more than talking heads like cimini are giving him credit for. the part about geno is more than a bit astounding. i guess geno didn't have any chemistry with any of the receivers based on the way he played. we'll see what happen but geno needs to take more responsibility for his short comings and get his game straightened out before he or the talking heads start blaming the receivers. CJ2k maybe, but Winslow doesn't have a leg to stand on. Idzik is the only guy who even called him to camp. In this case Cimini is right. I don't know why you're ranting about Geno in this post. |
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Post by carlito1171 on Feb 20, 2015 10:13:36 GMT -5
Winslow is an asshole and CJ2K was a bust but I wouldn't be surprised if they were telling the truth. This is the thing.... There's probably some truth to what they're saying. Where there's smoke there's fire... But these 2 look like butthurt asshats given they are both unemployed.... |
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Feb 20, 2015 13:29:37 GMT -5
Winslow is an asshole and CJ2K was a bust but I wouldn't be surprised if they were telling the truth. You seriously think that Winslows lack of production was due to politics? Is there anything negative that you don't believe or support? |
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Post by DDNYjets on Feb 20, 2015 13:44:13 GMT -5
Winslow is an asshole and CJ2K was a bust but I wouldn't be surprised if they were telling the truth. You seriously think that Winslows lack of production was due to politics? Is there anything negative that you don't believe or support? No. But I believe that his role was never explained to him b.c I believe that our organizational communication skills were seriously poor under Rex/Idzik regime. I think Rex and Idzik didn't really get along even though they put on good faces in public. I think Rex knew Idzik wanted him gone and just didn't give a fuck anymore. And I think Rex liked to get back at Idzik by doing things like make Geno hand the ball off 50 times in a game. So in that sense I do think politics was being played. Winslow is a piss poor messenger but the message is not inconceivable. The past four years we went from having a cancerous locker room to being a complete circus to having a dysfunctional relationship between the GM and HC. Not many positive things to talk about during that time. My tone and the overall tone of the forum during that time reflects that. |
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Post by cleatmarks on Feb 20, 2015 15:14:45 GMT -5
Winslow did the same thing with the Pats. He didn't like how he was going to be used and asked to be released. He has an inflated belief in himself. I wouldn't take anything he said as valid. He was a shell of himself at the end and a diva to boot.
As far as CJ, the book was written on him years ago. He doesn't like contact and bounces everything to the outside...he's a predictable runner and that's why he's had little to no success. Once he was figured out, he was useless...one trick pony. Didn't think he had a shot at being productive but there was a faction that was high on him....
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Feb 20, 2015 15:47:36 GMT -5
You seriously think that Winslows lack of production was due to politics? Is there anything negative that you don't believe or support? No. But I believe that his role was never explained to him b.c I believe that our organizational communication skills were seriously poor under Rex/Idzik regime. I think Rex and Idzik didn't really get along even though they put on good faces in public. I think Rex knew Idzik wanted him gone and just didn't give a fuck anymore. And I think Rex liked to get back at Idzik by doing things like make Geno hand the ball off 50 times in a game. So in that sense I do think politics was being played. Winslow is a piss poor messenger but the message is not inconceivable. The past four years we went from having a cancerous locker room to being a complete circus to having a dysfunctional relationship between the GM and HC. Not many positive things to talk about during that time. My tone and the overall tone of the forum during that time reflects that. What is he a fucking baby that needs to be told what he will do? He's getting paid millions, shut the fuck up and produce. Why should anyone have to explain anything to him? Did he sit Rex, MM and others and tell them he planned on taking a banned performance enhancing substance and would take a 4 week vacation in the middle of the season? Nothing on his history has ever led anyone to believe he's a credible source. |
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Post by richcasterfan on Feb 20, 2015 16:49:53 GMT -5
Winslow is delusional. Was it politics that kept him out of the league last year? The guy is flat-out done. Bum knee. PED suspension. Done.
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Post by rangerous on Feb 22, 2015 9:30:17 GMT -5
You seriously think that Winslows lack of production was due to politics? Is there anything negative that you don't believe or support? No. But I believe that his role was never explained to him b.c I believe that our organizational communication skills were seriously poor under Rex/Idzik regime. I think Rex and Idzik didn't really get along even though they put on good faces in public. I think Rex knew Idzik wanted him gone and just didn't give a fuck anymore. And I think Rex liked to get back at Idzik by doing things like make Geno hand the ball off 50 times in a game. So in that sense I do think politics was being played. Winslow is a piss poor messenger but the message is not inconceivable. The past four years we went from having a cancerous locker room to being a complete circus to having a dysfunctional relationship between the GM and HC. Not many positive things to talk about during that time. My tone and the overall tone of the forum during that time reflects that. i think it's plenty obvious that idzik made zero attempt to keep rex on and the team suffered as a result. as for the 50 running play game, imo, geno was completely exposed. when he had to make a pass to win the game he couldn't. |
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Post by shootmenow on Feb 22, 2015 9:53:07 GMT -5
Would you take a job where they didn't explain your role up front? Only if you were out of work and desperate, which he was. So stop crying, you got a paycheck you mentally unbalanced turd!
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Feb 22, 2015 10:32:59 GMT -5
No. But I believe that his role was never explained to him b.c I believe that our organizational communication skills were seriously poor under Rex/Idzik regime. I think Rex and Idzik didn't really get along even though they put on good faces in public. I think Rex knew Idzik wanted him gone and just didn't give a fuck anymore. And I think Rex liked to get back at Idzik by doing things like make Geno hand the ball off 50 times in a game. So in that sense I do think politics was being played. Winslow is a piss poor messenger but the message is not inconceivable. The past four years we went from having a cancerous locker room to being a complete circus to having a dysfunctional relationship between the GM and HC. Not many positive things to talk about during that time. My tone and the overall tone of the forum during that time reflects that. i think it's plenty obvious that idzik made zero attempt to keep rex on and the team suffered as a result. as for the 50 running play game, imo, geno was completely exposed. when he had to make a pass to win the game he couldn't. Having your QB hand off for 58 minutes and then asking him to win a game, against a pretty good Pass D in the last few minutes Doesnt expose your QB. Not even close. Funny thing is people believe this, many of which bash the Wildcat because, you know, QBs have to stay in rhythm during games and a handful of games where he steps to the side or God forbid sideline, will throw him off his game. Any QB for that matter. But after almost an entire game of doing nothing he's supposed to be able to turn it on. Like a light switch. |
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