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Post by choon328 on Mar 8, 2015 10:42:48 GMT -5
Would you want him at $9 million? That's awful. What? I thought you were suggesting you would want him at $9 million per year, which is awful. He will make half of what he's supposed to make this year for the Jets if he hits the open market.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 8, 2015 10:49:50 GMT -5
I thought you were suggesting you would want him at $9 million per year, which is awful. He will make half of what he's supposed to make this year for the Jets if he hits the open market. I was just asking a question whether people would be comfortable at that price, which IMO is a figure I could see him getting on the open market as a FA. Someone like the Raiders would pay him that no problem, especially given the fact musgrave is their OC and he has worked with Harvin before. Why does Harvin not take a pay cut then if his value is 5-6 mil a year, he obviously thinks he can get a parable contract as a FA.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 8, 2015 10:52:11 GMT -5
I thought you were suggesting you would want him at $9 million per year, which is awful. He will make half of what he's supposed to make this year for the Jets if he hits the open market. I was just asking a question whether people would be comfortable at that price, which IMO is a figure I could see him getting on the open market as a FA. Someone like the Raiders would pay him that no problem, especially given the fact musgrave is their OC and he has worked with Harvin before. Why does Harvin not take a pay cut then if his value is 5-6 mil a year, he obviously thinks he can get a parable contract as a FA. Because he can pick what team he goes to.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 8, 2015 11:01:28 GMT -5
I was just asking a question whether people would be comfortable at that price, which IMO is a figure I could see him getting on the open market as a FA. Someone like the Raiders would pay him that no problem, especially given the fact musgrave is their OC and he has worked with Harvin before. Why does Harvin not take a pay cut then if his value is 5-6 mil a year, he obviously thinks he can get a parable contract as a FA. Because he can pick what team he goes to. So hypothetically he's prepared to take 5-6 mil a year to pick his team?
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 8, 2015 11:09:59 GMT -5
Because he can pick what team he goes to. So he's hypothetically prepared to take a 5-6 mil a year to pick his team? What are you talking about? If he was being forced to take a paycut with the Jets, why would he not want to hit the open market and get more teams involved? He then has choices.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 8, 2015 11:18:46 GMT -5
So he's hypothetically prepared to take a 5-6 mil a year to pick his team? What are you talking about? If he was being forced to take a paycut with the Jets, why would he not want to hit the open market and get more teams involved? He then has choices. WTF....that is exactly what I was sayin, choon said Harvin is only goin to get 5-6 mil a year from another team. So I said a team like the raiders who are in desperate need of a receiver and the musgrave link would definitely pay him 9 mil a year. I then I said if Harvin is only worth 5-6 mil a year like choon said then why not take a pay cut with the Jets if that's all him and his agent think he can command on the open market. In other words he is best off being cut and I feel he will get a comparable contract with another team.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 8, 2015 11:24:24 GMT -5
What are you talking about? If he was being forced to take a paycut with the Jets, why would he not want to hit the open market and get more teams involved? He then has choices. WTF....that is exactly what I was sayin, choon said Harvin is only goin to get 5-6 mil a year from another team. So I said a team like the raiders who are in desperate need of a receiver and the musgrave link would definitely pay him 9 mil a year.. I then I said if Harvin is only worth 5-6 mil a why not take a pay cut with the Jets if that's all him and his agent think he can command on the open market, in other words he is best hittin be cut and I feel he will get a comparable contract with another team. Because maybe he doesn't want to play for the Jets, or the Jets simply don't want Harvin even at a reduced rate.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 8, 2015 11:28:27 GMT -5
WTF....that is exactly what I was sayin, choon said Harvin is only goin to get 5-6 mil a year from another team. So I said a team like the raiders who are in desperate need of a receiver and the musgrave link would definitely pay him 9 mil a year.. I then I said if Harvin is only worth 5-6 mil a why not take a pay cut with the Jets if that's all him and his agent think he can command on the open market, in other words he is best hittin be cut and I feel he will get a comparable contract with another team. Because maybe he doesn't want to play for the Jets, or the Jets simply don't want Harvin even at a reduced rate. That's fine but the original debate was about his value and what he can command on the open market, I think something comparable to his Jets contract, Choon thinks 5-6 mil a year. Nothing to do with whether he wants to stay or the Jets wanting him.
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Post by Touchable on Mar 8, 2015 11:28:55 GMT -5
If the guy wasn't made of fucking glass, then I'd be more inclined to just eat his salary and keep him around.
But I'm not paying him $10.5 million when he's only going to be on the field for 8-10 games a year and we just traded for Marshall.
Cut him and draft a kid like Dorsett or McBride in the 3rd.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 8, 2015 11:31:52 GMT -5
Because maybe he doesn't want to play for the Jets, or the Jets simply don't want Harvin even at a reduced rate. That's fine but the original debate was about his value and what he can command on the open market, I think something comparable to his Jets contract, Choon thinks 5-6 mil a year. Nothing to do with whether he wants to stay or the Jets wanting him. If Harvin could command something comprable to his current deal then you would see a team willing to trade for him. I don't see that happening.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 8, 2015 11:33:51 GMT -5
That's fine but the original debate was about his value and what he can command on the open market, I think something comparable to his Jets contract, Choon thinks 5-6 mil a year. Nothing to do with whether he wants to stay or the Jets wanting him. If Harvin could command something comprable to his current deal then you would see a team willing to trade for him. I don't see that happening. Why would someone trade for him when they know he will likely be cut? So you disagree a team like the Raiders or browns would pay Harvin 9 mil a year? So in essence you agree with choon that he would command between 5/6 mil as a FA? Glad we are back on topic.
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Post by rangerous on Mar 8, 2015 11:35:09 GMT -5
The Brandon Marshall trade has accelerated talk that the Jets will release Harvin in order to retain their 4th round draft pick and save the $10.5M he is owed. The Jets would then only surrender a 6th round pick to Seattle. With free agency about to begin some notable names are already off the FA market a WR. Dez Bryant and Demaryius Thomas were franchise-tagged. Randall Cobb just re-signed with GB and won't hit free agency. The potential value and cash grab for guys like Jeremy Maclin, Torrey Smith and possibly Percy Harvin just went up. Even with Marshall, should the Jets keep or release Percy Harvin? i guess it all depends on how much lower harvin will go on a new contract. right now the jets have marshall at 7.5M and gave up a 5th round pick. harvin will cost the jets at least a 6th. if they keep him at 10.5 M he will also cost a 4th rounder. decker is coming in around 8 M. seems like an awful lot for the receiving core considering they still don't have a qb. and geno will not do any better unless his oline can block better (for him). the other thing to consider is all of these contracts will end around the same time. the thing about harvin is that he is more versatile than marshall. but i don't think at his age he's going to want to run back kicks, play third down rb/receiver and return punts. versatility is nice but not if the guy gets injured. i think i'd seriously consider keeping harvin but at a much reduced salary. use that money on oline or a qb.
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Post by Gunnails on Mar 8, 2015 11:35:20 GMT -5
If he could be counted on to play 16 games and then into the playoffs then I would also be inclined to keep him, but history says this will not happen. so for me I say cut him.
But as always I will leave it up to the coach and front office. Either way, I'm not sweating nothing over Harvin.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 8, 2015 11:37:31 GMT -5
If Harvin could command something comprable to his current deal then you would see a team willing to trade for him. I don't see that happening. Why would someone trade for him when they know he will likely be cut?So you disagree a team like the Raiders or browns would pay Harvin 9 mil a year? Why did the Jets trade for Brandon Marshall? If a team is willing to pay Harvin 9M per year as you say, why not throw a 6th round pick away to ensure you get him? This way you are not having to outbid another team. I don't think anyone wants to pay Harvin that much and that's why I don't think he can be traded.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 8, 2015 11:44:09 GMT -5
Why would someone trade for him when they know he will likely be cut?So you disagree a team like the Raiders or browns would pay Harvin 9 mil a year? Why did the Jets trade for Brandon Marshall? If a team is willing to pay Harvin 9M per year as you say, why not throw a 6th round pick away to ensure you get him? This way you are not having to outbid another team. I don't think anyone wants to pay Harvin that much and that's why I don't think he can be traded. That's what the original debate between me and choon was about, so in essence you agree with choon that he would command 5/6 mil as a FA and that's fine. I believe a team like the Browns and Raiders would pay him around 9 if he was FA. In fact the Raiders could be a potential trade partner because they have missed out on Cobb, Harvin played for Musgrave in Minnesota, they very well may miss out on Suh and they need spend in a big way.
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