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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Mar 14, 2015 15:08:55 GMT -5
After seeing Brandon Marshall A Football Life, I gotta say I really like Brandon Marshall. I haven't seen it, but I really like Brandon Marshall.
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Post by rexneffect on Mar 14, 2015 16:04:34 GMT -5
Again, Fitz is a decent veteran backup. If he's starting for your team, then you have one of the worst QB situations in the league and you aren't going to see more than 6 or 7 wins on the year. At least Geno still has upside. Fitz just is what he is. Why the hell anyone would rather see a journeyman backup behind center is beyond me. Ideally the Jets take Mariota at #6, sit him for a year, and then get rid of the two fucking scrubs ahead of him in 2016. What upside does Geno have? Do you mean he performed so poorly it is inconceivable that he could be worse?
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Post by rangerous on Mar 14, 2015 16:15:55 GMT -5
if geno is up to the task why not? if he is doing his sanchez impersonation out on his ass that's the whole point. right now genot has done little on the field except show some falashes. but by and large he has been a failure as qb. imo he dogged it last season knowing full well that rex was going to be launched. that perfact game against the doltfins was kind of an in your face parting shot against rex. we can only hope that bowles runs an honest training camp that pushes genot. fitz might be just the guy to give him a good run and show that genot is not the only option. last season they needed vick to push him but rex (because idzik told him so) opted to anoint genot and the rest is history.
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Post by rangerous on Mar 14, 2015 16:19:48 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks that Fitz will start over Geno (or whoever is rooting for it, no less) is nuttier than squirrel turds. There's no question that Geno is the more physically talented player and I don't know why some are touting Fitz as some kind of great gamemanager who doesn't turn the ball over. Fitzpatrick is a solid, veteran backup. If he's starting at the beginning of the season, then we're pretty much fucked for the foreseeable future unless Mariota is waiting on the bench. isn't that up to genot? granted genot "has the tools" but he is a very poor decision maker and doesn't seem to grasp the offense very well. genot will start if he beats out fitz far and square. and with the defense the jets are building the last thing they need is a qb who turns the ball over.
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Post by Touchable on Mar 14, 2015 17:06:07 GMT -5
Again, Fitz is a decent veteran backup. If he's starting for your team, then you have one of the worst QB situations in the league and you aren't going to see more than 6 or 7 wins on the year. At least Geno still has upside. Fitz just is what he is. Why the hell anyone would rather see a journeyman backup behind center is beyond me. Ideally the Jets take Mariota at #6, sit him for a year, and then get rid of the two fucking scrubs ahead of him in 2016. What upside does Geno have? Do you mean he performed so poorly it is inconceivable that he could be worse? So you expect a young QB to come in and immediately blow your tits off despite being surrounded by the most lackluster collection of offensive talent in the NFL? Ever since the kid came into the league, he's been saddled with a dumbfuck like Rex who is still stuck in the stone age and guys like Jeff Cumberland and David Nelson as his top targets in the passing game. Listen, you'd here no complaints out of me if we draft a kid like Mariota. But on what fucking planet does any sensible fan want Fitzpatrick to start over Geno? Every Jets fan out there should be praying that Geno can take the next step. Because a career journeyman like Fitzpatrick sure as hell isn't doing it at 32 years old. The guy has been on 6 teams (4 in the last 4 years) yet you think he's some kind of dramatic upgrade over Geno.
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Post by silverback on Mar 14, 2015 17:20:43 GMT -5
What upside does Geno have? Do you mean he performed so poorly it is inconceivable that he could be worse? So you expect a young QB to come in and immediately blow your tits off despite being surrounded by the most lackluster collection of offensive talent in the NFL? Ever since the kid came into the league, he's been saddled with a dumbfuck like Rex who is still stuck in the stone age and guys like Jeff Cumberland and David Nelson as his top targets in the passing game. Listen, you'd here no complaints out of me if we draft a kid like Mariota. But on what fucking planet does any sensible fan want Fitzpatrick to start over Geno? Every Jets fan out there should be praying that Geno can take the next step. Because a career journeyman like Fitzpatrick sure as hell isn't doing it at 32 years old. The guy has been on 6 teams (4 in the last 4 years) yet you think he's some kind of dramatic upgrade over Geno. Greatly looking forward to seeing how Geno does with Gailey coaching him up. Gailey has a reputation as a coach who gets production out of average talent as he did with Fitzpatrick in buffalo so I expect something similar to happen to geno. Geno has neve had good coaching to go with quality weapons like he does now and I'm looking forward to seeing how this shakes out in TC. Also remember Gailey runs a system similar to what Geno ran and thrived in at WVU so this system should be something he feels comfortable with right away.
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Post by rexneffect on Mar 14, 2015 20:38:02 GMT -5
What upside does Geno have? Do you mean he performed so poorly it is inconceivable that he could be worse? So you expect a young QB to come in and immediately blow your tits off despite being surrounded by the most lackluster collection of offensive talent in the NFL? Ever since the kid came into the league, he's been saddled with a dumbfuck like Rex who is still stuck in the stone age and guys like Jeff Cumberland and David Nelson as his top targets in the passing game. Listen, you'd here no complaints out of me if we draft a kid like Mariota. But on what fucking planet does any sensible fan want Fitzpatrick to start over Geno? Every Jets fan out there should be praying that Geno can take the next step. Because a career journeyman like Fitzpatrick sure as hell isn't doing it at 32 years old. The guy has been on 6 teams (4 in the last 4 years) yet you think he's some kind of dramatic upgrade over Geno. I expect him to exhibit some competency. Just some. You can blame the coaches and players around him but some of his problems are just him. Even a rookie QB should know not to try to pass the ball around his back, not to run out of the endzone, to be able to keep time and not constantly run backwards to avoid a sack. Those are things he should have learned long before he even sniffed the NFL draft. If Geno ends up being the best QB on the roster then let's put him under center. I do not expect that to be the case. I expect Fitz will easily beat Geno. He is a dramatic upgrade over Geno. That's not saying a lot about Fitz. It's saying a lot about how bad Geno is. At least with Fitz we can be optimistic about winning more than four games and see the offense come together around a QB that won't embarrass us while we draft and develop a long term solution at QB.
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Post by DowNY on Mar 14, 2015 21:57:46 GMT -5
After seeing Brandon Marshall A Football Life, I gotta say I really like Brandon Marshall. I haven't seen it, but I really like Brandon Marshall.
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Post by vin on Mar 14, 2015 21:57:44 GMT -5
I had zero clue that Brandon had a personality disorder.
Certainly puts things into perspective....
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Post by Lithfan on Mar 14, 2015 22:12:29 GMT -5
I had zero clue that Brandon had a personality disorder. Certainly puts things into perspective.... The first two years that he was here in Chicago, everyone loved him. You never heard a bad word about the guy. He was praised for the work he did in the community and the money he raised for mental health awareness. Now that he is dealt to the Jets, all I hear about is what a bad locker room guy he was. Most Bear fans say they are happy to see him go and think its a joke that the Jets would trade for him. The same fans who loved him when he was catching 100 passes and double digit TDs a year. I am thrilled to have the guy on the Jets. He is not the locker room cancer that he was early in his career. I expect him to be a great teammate and to be productive on the field.
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Post by DowNY on Mar 14, 2015 22:21:00 GMT -5
I had zero clue that Brandon had a personality disorder. Certainly puts things into perspective.... The first two years that he was here in Chicago, everyone loved him. You never heard a bad word about the guy. He was praised for the work he did in the community and the money he raised for mental health awareness. Now that he is dealt to the Jets, all I hear about is what a bad locker room guy he was. Most Bear fans say they are happy to see him go and think its a joke that the Jets would trade for him. The same fans who loved him when he was catching 100 passes and double digit TDs a year. I am thrilled to have the guy on the Jets. He is not the locker room cancer that he was early in his career. I expect him to be a great teammate and to be productive on the field. I think it'll have a positive influence on our young players as well. Especially someone like Shaq Evans. I think Marshall was a major help in Alshon Jeffery's development as a WR.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Mar 15, 2015 7:48:12 GMT -5
I haven't seen it, but I really like Brandon Marshall. The Jay Cutler segments were interesting. He's a good guy. After watching I was of the opinion that the bears decided to trade Marshall because his personality overshadowed Cutler and made for a bad team dynamic. Both are good guys but you can not have a WR/QB best friend tandem where the WR exhibits far more vocal leadership skills where their are questions about the QBs ability to lead the team.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Mar 15, 2015 7:52:01 GMT -5
What upside does Geno have? Do you mean he performed so poorly it is inconceivable that he could be worse? So you expect a young QB to come in and immediately blow your tits off despite being surrounded by the most lackluster collection of offensive talent in the NFL? Ever since the kid came into the league, he's been saddled with a dumbfuck like Rex who is still stuck in the stone age and guys like Jeff Cumberland and David Nelson as his top targets in the passing game. Listen, you'd here no complaints out of me if we draft a kid like Mariota. But on what fucking planet does any sensible fan want Fitzpatrick to start over Geno? Every Jets fan out there should be praying that Geno can take the next step. Because a career journeyman like Fitzpatrick sure as hell isn't doing it at 32 years old. The guy has been on 6 teams (4 in the last 4 years) yet you think he's some kind of dramatic upgrade over Geno. Totally agree as to Fitzpatrick. He is the Argo quarterback. ---- He was the best bad option the jets had available.
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Post by gibby on Mar 15, 2015 8:52:07 GMT -5
I've seen all I need to from geno - to know his atrocious play had NOTHING to do with coaching or the players around him. He flat out sucks!! End of story!
Is Fitz the best we can do? Absolutely not. Be he is an upgrade at QB - and it's really not even an opinion. It's a fact.
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Post by Slackjaw on Mar 15, 2015 8:52:32 GMT -5
if geno is up to the task why not? if he is doing his sanchez impersonation out on his ass that's the whole point. right now genot has done little on the field except show some falashes. but by and large he has been a failure as qb. imo he dogged it last season knowing full well that rex was going to be launched. that perfact game against the doltfins was kind of an in your face parting shot against rex. we can only hope that bowles runs an honest training camp that pushes genot. fitz might be just the guy to give him a good run and show that genot is not the only option. last season they needed vick to push him but rex (because idzik told him so) opted to anoint genot and the rest is history. then out on his candy ass now...I don't have much left in me for inept football operations. Beano has had his chance.
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