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Post by joepnyj1 on Apr 7, 2015 11:57:30 GMT -5
yeah too bad Rex meddled in the draft and roster Sounds about right, Rex gets all the credit for the good ones, yet the Kyle Wilsons of this world have nothing to do with him. That was Idzik all the way.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Apr 7, 2015 12:21:18 GMT -5
yeah too bad Rex meddled in the draft and roster Seems like a bit of a cherry pick to me... Wilson, the Coples experiment at OLB which to date hadn't worked, Wilk/Richardson worked out. So he's 50-50 on defense. Isolated to the DL which was his job as a position coach rising up. And let's not even start on offense unless we are absolving him of blame for the offense, which again seems like cherry picking facts. Actually it's a case of those who don't like Rex always blaming him for bad draft picks. Without a single shred of evidence that he actually drafted any of these players. On either side of the ledger. It's pick your draft pick to fit your argument
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Post by jetstream23 on Apr 7, 2015 12:23:25 GMT -5
Wait, you posted the article but no opinion on it? That's not like you. ...are you ok today? I'm just sharing the news. It's what ragu pays me to do.
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Post by TheMo on Apr 7, 2015 12:27:00 GMT -5
Seems like a bit of a cherry pick to me... Wilson, the Coples experiment at OLB which to date hadn't worked, Wilk/Richardson worked out. So he's 50-50 on defense. Isolated to the DL which was his job as a position coach rising up. And let's not even start on offense unless we are absolving him of blame for the offense, which again seems like cherry picking facts. Actually it's a case of those who don't like Rex always blaming him for bad draft picks. Without a single shred of evidence that he actually drafted any of these players. On either side of the ledger. It's pick your draft pick to fit your argument To me he had an AMAZING eye for DL talent. I think he could sort through the masses and get you the all-pro player of the bunch. I think beyond that on defense he wasn't amazing but not the worst. His involvement on offense was lackluster to say the least. I think he has no idea what he's doing in that regard. Overall I'd say he is below average with regard to drafting. Not the worst ever that some on this board would have you think, but definitely not where he needs to be to keep a franchise afloat.
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Post by TheMo on Apr 7, 2015 12:28:08 GMT -5
Wait, you posted the article but no opinion on it? That's not like you. ...are you ok today? I'm just sharing the news. It's what ragu pays me to do. You mean it's a paid gig.... Ragu hook me up... I can do better than this mook quoted above
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Post by joepnyj1 on Apr 7, 2015 12:29:14 GMT -5
Wait, you posted the article but no opinion on it? That's not like you. ...are you ok today? I'm just sharing the news. It's what ragu pays me to do. You get paid?? lol
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Post by jetstream23 on Apr 7, 2015 12:31:54 GMT -5
He's probably right about the defense, the rest of the quote sounds like he was trying to clean it up so as to not alienate the offense. The Jets took a good defense and have added some serious talent to it in FA, so I have no problem with him voicing an opinion that the Jets D could be great....even if I personally would have worded it differently. I prefer guys setting the bar high rather than trying to set expectations low so that they can surpass them. Players could just as easily have said, "I don't know, it's a new system, we'll need some time to adjust. I think we'll be good but let's wait and see how things shake out." And I think you're right about him trying to clean up his comments. He basically shoehorned the offense in there at the end so that it didn't come across as him suggesting that the defense was better than the offense or that the D would have to carry the offense....again! He put out a boastful comment and then tried to balance it out. But instead of balancing it out by saying something like the D would be "one of" the best or that "we should be improved" he balanced it by dragging our offense into a comment about being the best in the league. lol...whoa boy!
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Apr 7, 2015 12:32:35 GMT -5
Actually it's a case of those who don't like Rex always blaming him for bad draft picks. Without a single shred of evidence that he actually drafted any of these players. On either side of the ledger. It's pick your draft pick to fit your argument To me he had an AMAZING eye for DL talent. I think he could sort through the masses and get you the all-pro player of the bunch. I think beyond that on defense he wasn't amazing but not the worst. His involvement on offense was lackluster to say the least. I think he has no idea what he's doing in that regard. Overall I'd say he is below average with regard to drafting. Not the worst ever that some on this board would have you think, but definitely not where he needs to be to keep a franchise afloat. And I'll say it again, the GM drafted those players. That's what we're talking about who he drafted or didn't draft. More to the point getting credit for good picks and blame or. O blame for the bad picks. Rex wasn't in charge of drafting players. If I suggest a player and you pick him off the suggestion, it's your pick, you put your name to it. So no one knows if he picked Richardson or Milliner. So it makes absolutely no sense to credit him for Richardson and blame him for Milliner. That was my point.
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Post by jetstream23 on Apr 7, 2015 12:32:52 GMT -5
I'm just sharing the news. It's what ragu pays me to do. You mean it's a paid gig.... Ragu hook me up... I can do better than this mook quoted above I may need to go find my toolbox.
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Post by TheMo on Apr 7, 2015 12:52:36 GMT -5
To me he had an AMAZING eye for DL talent. I think he could sort through the masses and get you the all-pro player of the bunch. I think beyond that on defense he wasn't amazing but not the worst. His involvement on offense was lackluster to say the least. I think he has no idea what he's doing in that regard. Overall I'd say he is below average with regard to drafting. Not the worst ever that some on this board would have you think, but definitely not where he needs to be to keep a franchise afloat. And I'll say it again, the GM drafted those players. That's what we're talking about who he drafted or didn't draft. More to the point getting credit for good picks and blame or. O blame for the bad picks. Rex wasn't in charge of drafting players. If I suggest a player and you pick him off the suggestion, it's your pick, you put your name to it. So no one knows if he picked Richardson or Milliner. So it makes absolutely no sense to credit him for Richardson and blame him for Milliner. That was my point. You and I are on the same page I am pretty sure. I think either you believe that he had a say in the draft and you take the good/bad when assessing him. Or like you, you say that he shouldn't be credited for the good or bad. I think he had more influence than you, but either way you and I are in agreement on how he needs to be assessed. This long winded response has been brought to you by TheMo.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Apr 7, 2015 15:37:07 GMT -5
And I'll say it again, the GM drafted those players. That's what we're talking about who he drafted or didn't draft. More to the point getting credit for good picks and blame or. O blame for the bad picks. Rex wasn't in charge of drafting players. If I suggest a player and you pick him off the suggestion, it's your pick, you put your name to it. So no one knows if he picked Richardson or Milliner. So it makes absolutely no sense to credit him for Richardson and blame him for Milliner. That was my point. You and I are on the same page I am pretty sure. I think either you believe that he had a say in the draft and you take the good/bad when assessing him. Or like you, you say that he shouldn't be credited for the good or bad. I think he had more influence than you, but either way you and I are in agreement on how he needs to be assessed. This long winded response has been brought to you by TheMo. Yes, we're in agreement. I find it interesting that some want to blame him or credit him with picks depending on which side of the fence they're on in regards to liking or hating rex.
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Post by TheMo on Apr 7, 2015 16:00:42 GMT -5
You and I are on the same page I am pretty sure. I think either you believe that he had a say in the draft and you take the good/bad when assessing him. Or like you, you say that he shouldn't be credited for the good or bad. I think he had more influence than you, but either way you and I are in agreement on how he needs to be assessed. This long winded response has been brought to you by TheMo. Yes, we're in agreement. I find it interesting that some want to blame him or credit him with picks depending on which side of the fence they're on in regards to liking or hating rex. Entertaining for sure lol
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Apr 7, 2015 18:16:39 GMT -5
I'm just sharing the news. It's what ragu pays me to do. You get paid?? lol sure, we all do, didn't you know?
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Post by Jetworks on Apr 7, 2015 18:29:02 GMT -5
I'm just sharing the news. It's what ragu pays me to do. You get paid?? lol I get paid A LOT seeing as I'm cugine.
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Post by joepnyj1 on Apr 7, 2015 19:48:29 GMT -5
sure, we all do, didn't you know? Wtf I want in!
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