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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on May 7, 2015 12:49:05 GMT -5
I'm just glad he didn't go to the Dolphins. This also means there's a good chance Doug Free might be cut.
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Post by Lithfan on May 7, 2015 13:01:50 GMT -5
I'm just glad he didn't go to the Dolphins. This also means there's a good chance Doug Free might be cut. I agree. I consider this good news -- with all the buzz about the Dolphins, his dinner with Rex, reports last night of the Flats* interest. Good to see him our of our Division. Let the Giant fans worry about him and the rest of the Cowboys O-Line.
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Post by soberphobia on May 7, 2015 13:03:04 GMT -5
If this guy is innocent, and its increasingly looking like he is, he's lost millions of $ over the last week - but that aside remember he has had glowing character reports through the draft process from all that know him - that's part of the reason he was supposed to go so high. The crime and this guy just didn't match up with each other - the stupidity is that no FO at any of the 32 teams saw this. If he said he would go to the team that drafted him by the 3rd round, well......who would you take, Mauldin in the 3rd or Collins? Yeah, I thought so.
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Post by Touchable on May 7, 2015 13:44:25 GMT -5
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Post by jetstream23 on May 7, 2015 13:52:13 GMT -5
Still not sure why we didn't use a 7th on him. Supposedly he wouldn't have played for a team that drafted him beyond the 3rd round. I heard that but I still find it to be unlikely. What were his alternatives? If he was drafted by the Jets in Round 7 and offered the maximum allowable contract under NFL rules for a 7th rounder, and he said no, I don't see what else he could do. Can any other player who isn't happy with his contract offer simply say, "No thanks. I'm going to contact other teams and see if they'll pay me a little bit more?" It's already by stated that you can't re-enter the Draft if you've been officially included in a previous Draft. A team who drafts him has his rights as far as I know. If a player can simply shop himself around even if he's drafted then the Draft would have no meaning. The Jets should contact 5th Round RB, David Cobb of the Titans and tell him they'll work out a special deal to pay him more if he doesn't sign with Tennessee.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on May 7, 2015 13:59:03 GMT -5
It's already by stated that you can't re-enter the Draft if you've been officially included in a previous Draft. A team who drafts him has his rights as far as I know. Pretty sure he could re-enter the draft in 2016 only if a team drafted him. By not drafting him it forced him to sign with a team this year. For example Bo Jackson was selected #1 by the Bucs. He refused to sign with them and the Raiders took him in the 7th round next year.
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Post by JetBidi on May 7, 2015 13:59:51 GMT -5
Still not sure why we didn't use a 7th on him. He stated through his agent that he would not sign if drafted after Round 3. If we used our 7th on him and he didn't sign, it would be a wasted pick. Very high possibility of him not signing because if a team drafted him and he didn't sign, he's eligible to re-enter the draft next year. Now that he's an UDFA, he has no choice but to sign because he is not eligible to re-enter the draft.
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Post by Touchable on May 7, 2015 14:01:28 GMT -5
Supposedly he wouldn't have played for a team that drafted him beyond the 3rd round. I heard that but I still find it to be unlikely. What were his alternatives? If he was drafted by the Jets in Round 7 and offered the maximum allowable contract under NFL rules for a 7th rounder, and he said no, I don't see what else he could do. Can any other player who isn't happy with his contract offer simply say, "No thanks. I'm going to contact other teams and see if they'll pay me a little bit more?" It's already by stated that you can't re-enter the Draft if you've been officially included in a previous Draft. A team who drafts him has his rights as far as I know. If a player can simply shop himself around even if he's drafted then the Draft would have no meaning. The Jets should contact 5th Round RB, David Cobb of the Titans and tell him they'll work out a special deal to pay him more if he doesn't sign with Tennessee. If he was drafted, THEN he could've sat out the 2015 season and been eligible to re-enter the 2016 draft.
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Post by jetstream23 on May 7, 2015 14:56:46 GMT -5
I heard that but I still find it to be unlikely. What were his alternatives? If he was drafted by the Jets in Round 7 and offered the maximum allowable contract under NFL rules for a 7th rounder, and he said no, I don't see what else he could do. Can any other player who isn't happy with his contract offer simply say, "No thanks. I'm going to contact other teams and see if they'll pay me a little bit more?" It's already by stated that you can't re-enter the Draft if you've been officially included in a previous Draft. A team who drafts him has his rights as far as I know. If a player can simply shop himself around even if he's drafted then the Draft would have no meaning. The Jets should contact 5th Round RB, David Cobb of the Titans and tell him they'll work out a special deal to pay him more if he doesn't sign with Tennessee. If he was drafted, THEN he could've sat out the 2015 season and been eligible to re-enter the 2016 draft. Got it. I understand the circumstances now. It would have forced him to miss out on a year of football, a year of earnings if he sat out to wait until the 2016 Draft. Wouldn't you think the Jets could have drafted him and offered him a short, 2 year contract, maybe with some huge incentives or the opportunity to become a free agent quickly?
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Post by Touchable on May 7, 2015 16:24:51 GMT -5
If he was drafted, THEN he could've sat out the 2015 season and been eligible to re-enter the 2016 draft. Got it. I understand the circumstances now. It would have forced him to miss out on a year of football, a year of earnings if he sat out to wait until the 2016 Draft. Wouldn't you think the Jets could have drafted him and offered him a short, 2 year contract, maybe with some huge incentives or the opportunity to become a free agent quickly? Hard to say, but clearly no team wanted to take the risk.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on May 7, 2015 17:32:20 GMT -5
Still not sure why we didn't use a 7th on him. Because he wasn't signing with anyone who didn't draft him after the 2nd or 3rd? And id if someone drafted him this year he could walk away from an offer and go into the next draft. As it stood after the draft he had no choice but to a FA offer as he wasn't allowed to go back into the draft.
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Post by sec.101row23 on May 7, 2015 18:53:07 GMT -5
If he was drafted, THEN he could've sat out the 2015 season and been eligible to re-enter the 2016 draft. Got it. I understand the circumstances now. It would have forced him to miss out on a year of football, a year of earnings if he sat out to wait until the 2016 Draft. Wouldn't you think the Jets could have drafted him and offered him a short, 2 year contract, maybe with some huge incentives or the opportunity to become a free agent quickly?There are rules to the length and values of contracts for drafted players and UDFAs. There is the slotted money for draft picks and a contract signed by a DRAFTED player is 4 years, except first rounders have a fith year option. An UDFA signs a 3 year contract and becomes a restricted free agent at the end of that deal. There is also a limit on money that can be given to an UDFA. Once you get past the 3rd round a player is actually better off being an UDFA.
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Post by soberphobia on May 8, 2015 4:51:14 GMT -5
Andrew Brandt: "Were it me, I would have drafted Collins in the seventh round and, should any negative information come out, simply renounce rights to him. As to him sitting out a year, I would have said “Good luck with that” as the agents support the player for a long 12 months. However, no team was willing to take that chance despite the strong interest now."link
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Post by DDNYjets on May 8, 2015 6:27:26 GMT -5
Sooner or later we are going to have to re-invest in the OL with 1st rounders. These 3rd and 4th round projects are getting tougher to do with the new CBA.
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Post by Hotman on May 8, 2015 7:04:53 GMT -5
God damn, imagine how incredible a draft, fa, and just fucking cherry on top of absolutely owning the rest of the NFL GMs if we would have gotten this dude in here too. there's something up with these smilies... that was supposed to be the oh face
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