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Post by choon328 on Jun 7, 2015 22:47:57 GMT -5
I agree. Give him a Jordan-like contract: 5 years, $55 million with $33 million guaranteed.But under no circumstances give him anything close to Watt (6 yrs, $100 million with $52 million guaranteed) or even Quinn (4 yrs, $57 million with $41 million guaranteed). I don't know the Saints' roster in detail but I suspect Jordan is more valuable to them than Wilkerson is to the Jets given that there is at least one and possibly two DE's on the team better than him while Jordan is probably their best. Now that the Jets have Williams I think they are going to try and use Mo as trade bait. I think we should calm down with the "Richardson is better than Mo" rhetoric that's been circulating this site, mainly by you. When people in league circles mention the Top three 3-4 DE's in the NFL Mo is the one who gets brought up, not Richardson. And Mo has 5 more sacks the past 2 years than Sheldon has while playing in 3 less games so how you came up with this argument is beyond me. And don't get me started with your assertion that Leonard Williams is already better than Mo. That's complete fucking idiocy. And don't say you never said that b/c you did and somebody called you out on it already. It's like you've never watched football or you're just trolling. The chances that Leonard Williams is a complete bust is greater than him becoming equal to Mo in terms of on field production. I wouldn't pay Mo, JJ Watt money (He's on another planet) nor would I pay him Quinn money (He's a 4-3 DE so they would never work off of his numbers). I think Jordan is a good comparison contract to use when negotiating on both sides and although people on this site have falsely accused Mo of looking for $14 million per year that has never been reported from any reputable person. And if it has please post the twitter link or article to prove it. If it had been reported by a reputable person then it would be included in every article written about Mo and this contract situation. He'll likely get at most 5 years $60 million with $36 million guaranteed. A slight increase over Jordan who is not as well rounded as Mo. That's a fair contract for both sides based on Mo's age, historical production and projected future production.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 7, 2015 23:18:11 GMT -5
I don't know the Saints' roster in detail but I suspect Jordan is more valuable to them than Wilkerson is to the Jets given that there is at least one and possibly two DE's on the team better than him while Jordan is probably their best. Now that the Jets have Williams I think they are going to try and use Mo as trade bait. I think we should calm down with the "Richardson is better than Mo" rhetoric that's been circulating this site, mainly by you. When people in league circles mention the Top three 3-4 DE's in the NFL Mo is the one who gets brought up, not Richardson. And Mo has 5 more sacks the past 2 years than Sheldon has while playing in 3 less games so how you came up with this argument is beyond me. And don't get me started with your assertion that Leonard Williams is already better than Mo. That's complete fucking idiocy. And don't say you never said that b/c you did and somebody called you out on it already. It's like you've never watched football or you're just trolling. The chances that Leonard Williams is a complete bust is greater than him becoming equal to Mo in terms of on field production. I wouldn't pay Mo, JJ Watt money (He's on another planet) nor would I pay him Quinn money (He's a 4-3 DE so they would never work off of his numbers). I think Jordan is a good comparison contract to use when negotiating on both sides and although people on this site have falsely accused Mo of looking for $14 million per year that has never been reported from any reputable person. And if it has please post the twitter link or article to prove it. If it had been reported by a reputable person then it would be included in every article written about Mo and this contract situation. He'll likely get at most 5 years $60 million with $36 million guaranteed. A slight increase over Jordan who is not as well rounded as Mo. That's a fair contract for both sides based on Mo's age, historical production and projected future production. The sky is blue
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jun 8, 2015 9:22:13 GMT -5
If he'll sign for $11-12 million a year...then he'll remain a Jet. But if that's not good enough, then he can go fuck himself. On what planet does it make sense to pay a DL who averages around 7 sacks a year $14+ million per? Imagine what John Abraham would make if he was in the prime of his career now? Abraham was better at getting to the QB. Mo is the better player.
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Post by Lithfan on Jun 8, 2015 15:42:33 GMT -5
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Post by Hotman on Jun 8, 2015 16:02:44 GMT -5
Thank you for showing up to camp while under protest for Mo's contract, Sheldon. Really appreciate that bro.
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Post by Trades on Jun 9, 2015 8:02:30 GMT -5
I think we should calm down with the "Richardson is better than Mo" rhetoric that's been circulating this site, mainly by you. When people in league circles mention the Top three 3-4 DE's in the NFL Mo is the one who gets brought up, not Richardson. And Mo has 5 more sacks the past 2 years than Sheldon has while playing in 3 less games so how you came up with this argument is beyond me. And don't get me started with your assertion that Leonard Williams is already better than Mo. That's complete fucking idiocy. And don't say you never said that b/c you did and somebody called you out on it already. It's like you've never watched football or you're just trolling. The chances that Leonard Williams is a complete bust is greater than him becoming equal to Mo in terms of on field production. I wouldn't pay Mo, JJ Watt money (He's on another planet) nor would I pay him Quinn money (He's a 4-3 DE so they would never work off of his numbers). I think Jordan is a good comparison contract to use when negotiating on both sides and although people on this site have falsely accused Mo of looking for $14 million per year that has never been reported from any reputable person. And if it has please post the twitter link or article to prove it. If it had been reported by a reputable person then it would be included in every article written about Mo and this contract situation. He'll likely get at most 5 years $60 million with $36 million guaranteed. A slight increase over Jordan who is not as well rounded as Mo. That's a fair contract for both sides based on Mo's age, historical production and projected future production. The sky is blue Kind of grey the past couple days.
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Post by adpz on Jun 9, 2015 8:36:04 GMT -5
Wilkerson needs to understand he's not JJ Watt and isn't getting that kind of pay day. Once that's clear, everything else should fall into place. And I think that's the point of the Jets taking this slow. The Jets 'body language' is trying to let Mo know that he isn't JJ Watt to them.
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Post by Touchable on Jun 9, 2015 9:26:35 GMT -5
Wilkerson at the Jets facility for Mini Camp today
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Post by carlito1171 on Jun 9, 2015 10:44:15 GMT -5
Mo is my fav player but if he's adamant on getting more then Jordan/Geno Atkins got then we should trade him next offseason. He's nowhere near worth Watt $$$.....
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 9, 2015 12:02:34 GMT -5
Kind of grey the past couple days. and I thought I found something no one could argue with "Water is wet"
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Post by Hotman on Jun 9, 2015 13:05:08 GMT -5
Kind of grey the past couple days. and I thought I found something no one could argue with "Water is wet" That's not the only thing, what she said! sry u asked for it lol
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Jun 10, 2015 11:02:39 GMT -5
What concerns me more is not so much Mo, but in these latest articles, Sheldon is being quoted as "WE gotta get paid", like this is his contract negotiation too. Hey Sheldon, I know you told the fans to GFY with our opinions, but focus on football, not lockerroom lawyering/agenting for your buddy. Signing Sheldon is going to be the challenge, guaranteed. Guy already thinks hes the best defensive player on the planet.
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Post by Lithfan on Jun 10, 2015 11:27:42 GMT -5
What concerns me more is not so much Mo, but in these latest articles, Sheldon is being quoted as "WE gotta get paid", like this is his contract negotiation too. Hey Sheldon, I know you told the fans to GFY with our opinions, but focus on football, not lockerroom lawyering/agenting for your buddy. Signing Sheldon is going to be the challenge, guaranteed. Guy already thinks hes the best defensive player on the planet. I agree completely. I really hope we find a way to get Mo locked up long term this offseason. If we lose Mo, I cannot imagine how ugly the contract negotiations with Sheldon would be.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jun 17, 2015 9:27:31 GMT -5
trade mo for dez bryant. done and done.
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Post by sdjetsetter on Jun 17, 2015 11:34:17 GMT -5
Personally, as great a player as Mo is, i cant see locking up him and Sheldon to huge contracts. Unfortunately, that is what they are both going to be looking for.......Mo this year, and Sheldon coming up.
Gotta pick one of the two, and hope the decision pans out.
Enjoy this years defensive line...it has the makings to be great for another 5+ years, but this season should be the pinnacle of dominance.
J-E-T-S- JETS JETS JETS!!!!
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