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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 6, 2015 13:20:31 GMT -5
I believe in God or a higher being, whatever you want to call it. Faith fills the gaps science leaves behind. Miracles do happen. I dont see why the two can't coexist.
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Post by PK on Aug 6, 2015 14:03:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the link! That was hilarious. One of the reasons science is dogmatic is because of the belief that "Matter is unconscious"?. Yeah...I'm pretty sure a hand full of dirt doesn't have feelings. This was equally laughable: Nature is purposeless. That there is no design in nature, and the evolutionary process is merely a mechanical function – there is no higher purpose. What’s speculated is the idea that because we can’t identify what the ultimate purpose is, we assume that there is none (Think: the perimeter of ignorance.) Every function in science serves a purpose, it’s logical to assume that all of the micro-purposes serve a larger one – even if we can’t scientifically identify it or philosophically agree on it. LMFAO!!! Would you like me to dismantle your BELIEFS in the THEORY of evoultion. Perhaps you dont read what rattles you. But perhaps you should as something has been happening with dinosaur fossils that in hawkins own words is going to have to change everything they THOUGHT they knew about CARBON DATING AND EVOULTION. Dr. Mary Schweitzer and her research assistants were working on a T-rex dinosaur fossil and saw medullary tissue (showing that the T-rex had been pregnant). Because no one had ever found this tissue in a dinosaur fossil before, she told her assistant to soak it in acid to be able to study the structures better. When they tried this new approach, they were stunned to find blood vessels, bone matrix and elastic tissues in the fossil, all soft tissues found somewhere they shouldn’t be according to evolution. Schweitzer et al. also found evidence of degraded hemoglobin fragments and structures that might represent altered blood remnants. She eventually published a number of papers (references and links below) which right from the first challenged the basic principles of fossilization by stating, “Soft tissues and cell-like microstructures derived from skeletal elements of a well-preserved Tyrannosaurus rex (MOR 1125) were represented by four components in fragments of demineralized cortical and/or medullary bone: flexible and fibrous bone matrix; transparent, hollow and pliable blood vessels; intravascular material, including in some cases, structures morphologically reminiscent of vertebrate red blood cells; and osteocytes with intracellular contents and flexible filipodia.” Dr. Mary Schweitzer, states, “ When you think about it, the laws of chemistry, biology and and everything else we know, say it should be gone, it should be degraded completely.” (~6:30) Derrick Briggs, curator of invertebrate paleontology at the Peabody Museum at Yale University agrees saying, “ Nobody was imaging that dinosaurs might have had preserved soft tissues… this was totally improbable….We have this clear understanding that part of all biological cycles involves decay. Nature’s set up to break down that material and recycle it. So, it’s just improbable that those kinds of very delicate structures would survive, particularly for millions of years.”
He’s also agreeing that nothing we can verify with science would allow soft tissue to last for millions of years. The obvious conclusion is that they are not millions of years as Creationists have said for long. Remember that evidence from your critics is one of the highest levels evidence you can get. Creationists have that in MANY areas. Evolutionists don’t. Leading evolution experts agree that nothing in science would make it possible for soft tissue to last more than ~100,000 years (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2kMlm… ~8:30) Why don’t we know of more soft tissues in fossils? 1) As. Dr. Schweitzer said, she used a new technique with acid to remove bones that almost no one had used before. If more used that method, we’d find more soft tissue in fossils. Dr. Kaye tried to replicate Dr. Schweitzer and found a very large amount of soft tissue with her technique just like she did. 2) There actually are quite a number of other soft tissue finds. A) Soft tissue in fossilized salamandar. creation.com/muscle-and-blood-… www.physorg.com/news176660912…I don't know what belief of mine is supposedly being dismantled here. Sorry.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Aug 6, 2015 14:46:34 GMT -5
Hmmm. Not much of a rebuttal. Here's a quote for you from Ecclesiastes 3:15: "That which is has been already and that which will be has already been, for God seeks what has passed by." Or, everything that will happen has already happened. Just like in your brain cell/universe illustration. The entire universe is in every molecule and every molecule contains the entire universe Boy did you pick the wrong part of the old testament. Countinue reading. . The futility of life "under the sun" (1:2, 14). Life without God is meaningless. When we take God out of the equation, the world makes absolutely no sense. You are born in one hospital and you die in another hospital and what happens in the "between time" doesn't change either of those facts. And to make matters worse, the world is a bad place. Life is often unjust. Good people suffer and bad people prosper. 2. The importance of serving God throughout life (11:9 - 12:1, 13-14). The author shows that the meaning of life is not to be found in experiencing the things of this world. True meaning is found only in serving the Creator. Do not be hasty in word or impulsive in thought to bring up a matter in the presence of God. For God is in heaven and you are on the earth; therefore let your words be few. For the dream comes through much effort and the voice of a fool through many words. (Ecclesiastes 5:2-3) EMPTINESS IN THE FACE OF NATURE What advantage does man have in all his work which he does under the sun? (Ecclesiastes 1:3). Having given the answer, the Preacher now asks the question. What advantage does a man have in anything he does in this life? What's the use? Why are we here? Why do we work and labor and strive? You've heard about the man who climbed the ladder of success, only to find that it was leaning against the wrong wall. Is there a right wall? Why do we climb? The scope of the question is seen in verse 3. It is under the sun. That is the perspective from which this question is asked. It looks at life down here as opposed to life "up there." It looks at life from man's perspective rather than from God's perspective. It looks at life "under the sun" instead of at life "over the sun." Is this a Christian perspective? No! It is a humanistic perspective. When you look at this life only, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It is empty. This is confirmed in the New Testament. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied. (1 Corinthians 15:19). If life is only viewed from our earthly perspective, then there isn't much for which to live because you really don't make much of a difference. You are born in one hospital and you die in another hospital and in between you try to stay out of any hospitals. But eventually you die. I don't have time right now but if you would like to use the bible as a reference make sure you know it and or believe in it. Thats not argumentative. If you have time read this link and you will see that was the worst chapter of the bible you could of used to illustrate a point you are trying to make. In fact that is one of the books christian bible scholars use to show the coming of the Messiah Jesus Christ. crossfaithministry.org/studyonbookecclesiastes.html THE LINK TO READ IT ALL. Way to long for here. Besides i was being humorous before with it dies too. Don't ever mess with an felon we had way to much time to read books most doctors never even pick up. I don't know what belief of mine is being dismantled here. Sorry
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Post by thebigragu on Aug 6, 2015 19:20:45 GMT -5
I believe in God or a higher being, whatever you want to call it. Faith fills the gaps science leaves behind. Miracles do happen. I dont see why the two can't coexist. That's about right. Those 2 morons don't know when their being trolled. Remember the Noah's ark thread at JI. I can't believe vtn took the bait. "It does Too" lol. Copy and paste and copy n paste
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Post by thebigragu on Aug 6, 2015 19:26:41 GMT -5
Boy did you pick the wrong part of the old testament. Countinue reading. . The futility of life "under the sun" (1:2, 14). Life without God is meaningless. When we take God out of the equation, the world makes absolutely no sense. You are born in one hospital and you die in another hospital and what happens in the "between time" doesn't change either of those facts. And to make matters worse, the world is a bad place. Life is often unjust. Good people suffer and bad people prosper. 2. The importance of serving God throughout life (11:9 - 12:1, 13-14). The author shows that the meaning of life is not to be found in experiencing the things of this world. True meaning is found only in serving the Creator. Do not be hasty in word or impulsive in thought to bring up a matter in the presence of God. For God is in heaven and you are on the earth; therefore let your words be few. For the dream comes through much effort and the voice of a fool through many words. (Ecclesiastes 5:2-3) EMPTINESS IN THE FACE OF NATURE What advantage does man have in all his work which he does under the sun? (Ecclesiastes 1:3). Having given the answer, the Preacher now asks the question. What advantage does a man have in anything he does in this life? What's the use? Why are we here? Why do we work and labor and strive? You've heard about the man who climbed the ladder of success, only to find that it was leaning against the wrong wall. Is there a right wall? Why do we climb? The scope of the question is seen in verse 3. It is under the sun. That is the perspective from which this question is asked. It looks at life down here as opposed to life "up there." It looks at life from man's perspective rather than from God's perspective. It looks at life "under the sun" instead of at life "over the sun." Is this a Christian perspective? No! It is a humanistic perspective. When you look at this life only, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It is empty. This is confirmed in the New Testament. If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied. (1 Corinthians 15:19). If life is only viewed from our earthly perspective, then there isn't much for which to live because you really don't make much of a difference. You are born in one hospital and you die in another hospital and in between you try to stay out of any hospitals. But eventually you die. I don't have time right now but if you would like to use the bible as a reference make sure you know it and or believe in it. Thats not argumentative. If you have time read this link and you will see that was the worst chapter of the bible you could of used to illustrate a point you are trying to make. In fact that is one of the books christian bible scholars use to show the coming of the Messiah Jesus Christ. crossfaithministry.org/studyonbookecclesiastes.html THE LINK TO READ IT ALL. Way to long for here. Besides i was being humorous before with it dies too. Don't ever mess with an felon we had way to much time to read books most doctors never even pick up. I don't know what belief of mine is being dismantled here. Sorry Dismantling beliefs was for plumber not you. No idea why you had to copy a mans post and use it too. With that thinking might as well put on the apron and stay in the kitchen, and stay out of topics MEN are discussing
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Post by PK on Aug 6, 2015 19:49:45 GMT -5
I believe in God or a higher being, whatever you want to call it. Faith fills the gaps science leaves behind. Miracles do happen. I dont see why the two can't coexist. That's about right. Those 2 morons don't know when their being trolled. Remember the Noah's ark thread at JI. I can't believe vtn took the bait. "It does Too" lol. Copy and paste and copy n paste Lmao. Forgot about that thread :-)
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Post by Peebag on Aug 6, 2015 20:06:20 GMT -5
There is no god thus only 1 Super Bowl trophy for the Jetx
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Aug 6, 2015 20:22:15 GMT -5
I believe in God or a higher being, whatever you want to call it. Faith fills the gaps science leaves behind. Miracles do happen. I dont see why the two can't coexist. That's about right. Those 2 morons don't know when their being trolled. Remember the Noah's ark thread at JI. I can't believe vtn took the bait. "It does Too" lol. Copy and paste and copy n paste Someone with your faith doesn't fuck around by trolling it and you know it. I repeated FKs response because it was my exact reaction as well. I had no idea what point or argument you were trying to make
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Post by Big L on Aug 6, 2015 20:54:52 GMT -5
And you remember Mathew 21:17.
Think about it.
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Post by Big L on Aug 6, 2015 20:56:42 GMT -5
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Post by thebigragu on Aug 6, 2015 22:30:01 GMT -5
That's about right. Those 2 morons don't know when their being trolled. Remember the Noah's ark thread at JI. I can't believe vtn took the bait. "It does Too" lol. Copy and paste and copy n paste Someone with your faith doesn't fuck around by trolling it and you know it. I repeated FKs response because it was my exact reaction as well. I had no idea what point or argument you were trying to make Is that why Jesus my LORD and savior is holding a fucking uzi in front of the politics and religion thread. Think again. I cherish my faith but don't expect others to. Or my first post in here was a picture of Jesus with whis your buddy. Or the countless jesus pictures hooked loves to post in the funny pic thread that i sometimes ignore then laugh at. Honest sugar tits you don't know me and just attempting to try to figure me out will cause complete organ failure especially the brain. I've put chicks in mental hospitals. Back off
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Aug 6, 2015 22:37:43 GMT -5
Or my first post in here was a picture of Jesus with whis your buddy Catholicism WOW!
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Post by thebigragu on Aug 6, 2015 22:39:07 GMT -5
VTN Keeps this up ....i found a bible verse plug in for the forum that will shoot verses across the screen daily. Do not force my hand woman
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Post by jcappy on Aug 6, 2015 22:42:19 GMT -5
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Aug 6, 2015 22:48:23 GMT -5
newyorkjetshampur.com/board/18/thunderdome
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