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Post by Hotman on Oct 26, 2015 15:38:13 GMT -5
What does that do? Stenosis It's a narrowing of the spinal canal. Hopefully he just has a bum disk or two that's causing the issues. Oh I know what it IS. I have it actually... Not sure what it does tho. I'm wondering if some of my recent issues may be related in some way. |
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Post by Jetworks on Oct 26, 2015 16:07:41 GMT -5
It's a narrowing of the spinal canal. Hopefully he just has a bum disk or two that's causing the issues. Oh I know what it IS. I have it actually... Not sure what it does tho. I'm wondering if some of my recent issues may be related in some way. It depends on the location and the degree. If it's lumbar stenosis you can have tingling down the legs, loss of sensation and something called 'claudication', which is typically seen in patients with cardiovascular issues. Not really sure about cervical stenosis but I would imagine it can be pretty serious given the higher functions that go on there. |
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Post by jcappy on Oct 26, 2015 16:32:11 GMT -5
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Post by Ff2 on Oct 26, 2015 18:25:17 GMT -5
Oh I know what it IS. I have it actually... Not sure what it does tho. I'm wondering if some of my recent issues may be related in some way. It depends on the location and the degree. If it's lumbar stenosis you can have tingling down the legs, loss of sensation and something called 'claudication', which is typically seen in patients with cardiovascular issues. Not really sure about cervical stenosis but I would imagine it can be pretty serious given the higher functions that go on there. Hey can you take a look at this thing on my balls? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 18:25:48 GMT -5
It depends on the location and the degree. If it's lumbar stenosis you can have tingling down the legs, loss of sensation and something called 'claudication', which is typically seen in patients with cardiovascular issues. Not really sure about cervical stenosis but I would imagine it can be pretty serious given the higher functions that go on there. Hey can you take a look at this thing on my balls? that's called a PatsFanTX |
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Post by Jetworks on Oct 26, 2015 18:27:31 GMT -5
It depends on the location and the degree. If it's lumbar stenosis you can have tingling down the legs, loss of sensation and something called 'claudication', which is typically seen in patients with cardiovascular issues. Not really sure about cervical stenosis but I would imagine it can be pretty serious given the higher functions that go on there. Hey can you take a look at this thing on my balls? Stop hitting on me. |
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Post by Jets Things on Oct 26, 2015 18:46:29 GMT -5
It depends on the location and the degree. If it's lumbar stenosis you can have tingling down the legs, loss of sensation and something called 'claudication', which is typically seen in patients with cardiovascular issues. Not really sure about cervical stenosis but I would imagine it can be pretty serious given the higher functions that go on there. Hey can you take a look at this thing on my balls? Eh, I'm a nurse. |
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Post by Hotman on Oct 26, 2015 21:16:01 GMT -5
Oh I know what it IS. I have it actually... Not sure what it does tho. I'm wondering if some of my recent issues may be related in some way. It depends on the location and the degree. If it's lumbar stenosis you can have tingling down the legs, loss of sensation and something called 'claudication', which is typically seen in patients with cardiovascular issues. Not really sure about cervical stenosis but I would imagine it can be pretty serious given the higher functions that go on there. Yep, cervical. Back when I was going to Dr's, the one who initially told me I had spinal stenosis was shocked when he saw that I wasn't an old man. He said from my x-rays or mri or whatever it was, he was expecting me to be an old man, possibly retired NFL linebacker or retired pro Hockey player. "what a relief" I says. lol. Yeah, I'm fucked. I know there's nothing they can do outside of surgery and that it's narrowing of the spinal cord canal or whatever they call that... Just not sure what it does. Just had some wrist issues I thought was tendonitis, but your comment made me think twice... But wrist was swollen and felt like a migraine in my hand. Now half of my hand has felt asleep since Friday. What you think?? Don't worry about FF2's balls, he don't need em. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Oct 26, 2015 21:28:54 GMT -5
It depends on the location and the degree. If it's lumbar stenosis you can have tingling down the legs, loss of sensation and something called 'claudication', which is typically seen in patients with cardiovascular issues. Not really sure about cervical stenosis but I would imagine it can be pretty serious given the higher functions that go on there. Yep, cervical. Back when I was going to Dr's, the one who initially told me I had spinal stenosis was shocked when he saw that I wasn't an old man. He said from my x-rays or mri or whatever it was, he was expecting me to be an old man, possibly retired NFL linebacker or retired pro Hockey player. "what a relief" I says. lol. Yeah, I'm fucked. I know there's nothing they can do outside of surgery and that it's narrowing of the spinal cord canal or whatever they call that... Just not sure what it does. Just had some wrist issues I thought was tendonitis, but your comment made me think twice... But wrist was swollen and felt like a migraine in my hand. Now half of my hand has felt asleep since Friday. What you think?? Don't worry about FF2's balls, he don't need em. The narrowing impinges on the nerves so whatever nerves are being pinched coming out of the spine will be affected. If you know which vertebra you can look that up |
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Post by Hotman on Oct 26, 2015 21:43:49 GMT -5
Yep, cervical. Back when I was going to Dr's, the one who initially told me I had spinal stenosis was shocked when he saw that I wasn't an old man. He said from my x-rays or mri or whatever it was, he was expecting me to be an old man, possibly retired NFL linebacker or retired pro Hockey player. "what a relief" I says. lol. Yeah, I'm fucked. I know there's nothing they can do outside of surgery and that it's narrowing of the spinal cord canal or whatever they call that... Just not sure what it does. Just had some wrist issues I thought was tendonitis, but your comment made me think twice... But wrist was swollen and felt like a migraine in my hand. Now half of my hand has felt asleep since Friday. What you think?? Don't worry about FF2's balls, he don't need em. The narrowing impinges on the nerves so bad whatever nerves are being pinched coming out of the spine will be affected. If you know which vertebra you can look that up Sounded like is was pretty much the entire thing. It wasn't just one vertebrae IIRC. Basically, the message was, you're fucked. Good luck. And yes we know Vicodin works great and no you can't keep taking it. Try those steroid shots in your spine that didn't work again, thanks for coming.  |
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Post by adpz on Oct 26, 2015 21:58:30 GMT -5
The narrowing impinges on the nerves so bad whatever nerves are being pinched coming out of the spine will be affected. If you know which vertebra you can look that up Sounded like is was pretty much the entire thing. It wasn't just one vertebrae IIRC. Basically, the message was, you're fucked. Good luck. And yes we know Vicodin works great and no you can't keep taking it. Try those steroid shots in your spine that didn't work again, thanks for coming. If your spinal stenosis is lumbar or lower and you've never had a bad spine trauma (and therefore displaced disks or osteoarthritis at the injury site) your stenosis may be caused by the pressure of tightening fascia. The lower back across the rear of the pelvis is a thick maze of ligaments and fascia that naturally tightens as we age. It's also almost impossible to 'stretch' in a conventional sense. I am going to recommend what I mentioned to Jetstream back when he feared he had compartment syndrome - which is to check out rolfing (no the other kind). It's a form of deep-tissue massage that is specifically used to stretch tendons and break up fascia adhesions. I had it done (not for stenosis) and the hips area is just about the most painful part to do. But if you can get past the often-torturous level of pain, a few sessions can quite literally make you feel a decade younger and, create the space that relieves pressure on the spinal canal. Google 'Rolfing for spinal stenosis' |
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Post by Hotman on Oct 26, 2015 22:06:54 GMT -5
Sounded like is was pretty much the entire thing. It wasn't just one vertebrae IIRC. Basically, the message was, you're fucked. Good luck. And yes we know Vicodin works great and no you can't keep taking it. Try those steroid shots in your spine that didn't work again, thanks for coming. If your spinal stenosis is lumbar or lower and you've never had a bad spine trauma (and therefore displaced disks or osteoarthritis at the injury site) your stenosis may be caused by the pressure of tightening fascia. The lower back across the rear of the pelvis is a thick maze of ligaments and fascia that naturally tightens as we age. It's also almost impossible to 'stretch' in a conventional sense. I am going to recommend what I mentioned to Jetstream back when he feared he had compartment syndrome - which is to check out rolfing (no the other kind). It's a form of deep-tissue massage that is specifically used to stretch tendons and break up fascia adhesions. I had it done (not for stenosis) and the hips area is just about the most painful part to do. But if you can get past the often-torturous level of pain, a few sessions can quite literally make you feel a decade younger and, create the space that relieves pressure on the spinal canal. Google 'Rolfing for spinal stenosis' Wo... yeah I have a feeling that would help a lot... I've been dreaming of getting one of those things that you hang from your feet and see how that does to stretch it out. But mine is cervical. It may go lower, not sure, but the parts they really looked at were my neck and upper back between my shoulder blades. Hard to say a specific injury that may have taken place... I used to do crazy things and apparently it caught up to me fast. Will def look into this "rolfing" after I watch Fargo. Is that like 'traction' where you use weights to stretch, and have to go beyond 18 min for the ligaments to stretch? |
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Post by adpz on Oct 26, 2015 22:24:50 GMT -5
If your spinal stenosis is lumbar or lower and you've never had a bad spine trauma (and therefore displaced disks or osteoarthritis at the injury site) your stenosis may be caused by the pressure of tightening fascia. The lower back across the rear of the pelvis is a thick maze of ligaments and fascia that naturally tightens as we age. It's also almost impossible to 'stretch' in a conventional sense. I am going to recommend what I mentioned to Jetstream back when he feared he had compartment syndrome - which is to check out rolfing (no the other kind). It's a form of deep-tissue massage that is specifically used to stretch tendons and break up fascia adhesions. I had it done (not for stenosis) and the hips area is just about the most painful part to do. But if you can get past the often-torturous level of pain, a few sessions can quite literally make you feel a decade younger and, create the space that relieves pressure on the spinal canal. Google 'Rolfing for spinal stenosis' Wo... yeah I have a feeling that would help a lot... I've been dreaming of getting one of those things that you hang from your feet and see how that does to stretch it out. But mine is cervical. It may go lower, not sure, but the parts they really looked at were my neck and upper back between my shoulder blades. Hard to say a specific injury that may have taken place... I used to do crazy things and apparently it caught up to me fast. Will def look into this "rolfing" after I watch Fargo. Is that like 'traction' where you use weights to stretch, and have to go beyond 18 min for the ligaments to stretch? If yours is cervical/thoracic then it may be more complicated - but rolfing can almost certainly help. If the cortisone had no effect then inflammation isn't your problem - it's likely a physical reduction of space due to calcium deposits (which you'd see on the X-ray), bulging disks or tightened ligaments and fascia (which can also distort the shape of the spine) - or some combination. rolfing might overlap with the kind of ligament traction you mention - but it's all done with the pressure (and touch) of a person. Ligaments (and tendons) are fcking tough material - which is their one job to keep you from collapsing - and they all stiffen with age/use. So the rolfer goes in by feel - sometimes pushing quite deep in layers of tissue and tries to stretch and lengthen which connective tissue (ligaments, tendons and fascia) feels locked/immovable or is distorting the natural movement of the body. It's definitely not massage - it's sometimes really painful. You generally follow a programmed series of ten treatments that treat every part of the body in turn. And if you need more sessions then the therapist works on things as needed. The good news is if it works the effects last for a long long time. I had mine done like 7 years ago at this point. My back problems cleared up never to return amongst other seemingly permanent changes to posture/gait etc. Rolfing is not very well known because getting certified is a lengthy pain in the ass. There is only one school worldwide, the original Rolf Institute in Arizona. So there are relatively few practitioners - but if you live near a major U.S. city you can likely find one. It's definitely worth looking into if the doctors act like they can't help you. |
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Post by Hotman on Oct 26, 2015 22:35:48 GMT -5
Wo... yeah I have a feeling that would help a lot... I've been dreaming of getting one of those things that you hang from your feet and see how that does to stretch it out. But mine is cervical. It may go lower, not sure, but the parts they really looked at were my neck and upper back between my shoulder blades. Hard to say a specific injury that may have taken place... I used to do crazy things and apparently it caught up to me fast. Will def look into this "rolfing" after I watch Fargo. Is that like 'traction' where you use weights to stretch, and have to go beyond 18 min for the ligaments to stretch? If yours is cervical/thoracic then it may be more complicated - but rolfing can almost certainly help. If the cortisone had no effect then inflammation isn't your problem - it's likely a physical reduction of space due to calcium deposits (which you'd see on the X-ray), bulging disks or tightened ligaments and fascia (which can also distort the shape of the spine) - or some combination. rolfing might overlap with the kind of ligament traction you mention - but it's all done with the pressure (and touch) of a person. Ligaments (and tendons) are fcking tough material - which is their one job to keep you from collapsing - and they all stiffen with age/use. So the rolfer goes in by feel - sometimes pushing quite deep in layers of tissue and tries to stretch and lengthen which connective tissue (ligaments, tendons and fascia) feels locked/immovable or is distorting the natural movement of the body. It's definitely not massage - it's sometimes really painful. You generally follow a programmed series of ten treatments that treat every part of the body in turn. And if you need more sessions then the therapist works on things as needed. The good news is if it works the effects last for a long long time. I had mine done like 7 years ago at this point. My back problems cleared up never to return amongst other seemingly permanent changes to posture/gait etc. Rolfing is not very well known because getting certified is a lengthy pain in the ass. There is only one school worldwide, the original Rolf Institute in Arizona. So there are relatively few practitioners - but if you live near a major U.S. city you can likely find one. It's definitely worth looking into if the doctors act like they can't help you. I am pissed they never mentioned that when I was in PT and the shit didn't work. WTF. I mean at least a dozen drs and shit and not one mention of that. |
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Post by adpz on Oct 26, 2015 22:55:17 GMT -5
If yours is cervical/thoracic then it may be more complicated - but rolfing can almost certainly help. If the cortisone had no effect then inflammation isn't your problem - it's likely a physical reduction of space due to calcium deposits (which you'd see on the X-ray), bulging disks or tightened ligaments and fascia (which can also distort the shape of the spine) - or some combination. rolfing might overlap with the kind of ligament traction you mention - but it's all done with the pressure (and touch) of a person. Ligaments (and tendons) are fcking tough material - which is their one job to keep you from collapsing - and they all stiffen with age/use. So the rolfer goes in by feel - sometimes pushing quite deep in layers of tissue and tries to stretch and lengthen which connective tissue (ligaments, tendons and fascia) feels locked/immovable or is distorting the natural movement of the body. It's definitely not massage - it's sometimes really painful. You generally follow a programmed series of ten treatments that treat every part of the body in turn. And if you need more sessions then the therapist works on things as needed. The good news is if it works the effects last for a long long time. I had mine done like 7 years ago at this point. My back problems cleared up never to return amongst other seemingly permanent changes to posture/gait etc. Rolfing is not very well known because getting certified is a lengthy pain in the ass. There is only one school worldwide, the original Rolf Institute in Arizona. So there are relatively few practitioners - but if you live near a major U.S. city you can likely find one. It's definitely worth looking into if the doctors act like they can't help you. I am pissed they never mentioned that when I was in PT and the shit didn't work. WTF. I mean at least a dozen drs and shit and not one mention of that. PT is generally done too lightweight and often by lightly-trained personnel. And really doctors are generally not very curious/helpful these days unless you have a problem so bad that they know they can treat it. The 'we don't really know exactly' subclinical (not so bad) stuff makes their eyes glaze over ..... From where you describe the stenosis - were you ever in car accident where you slammed into the steering wheel? |
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