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Post by Hotman on Feb 27, 2016 1:04:21 GMT -5
FF2, there will be a nice door in that fence for honest people to come here legally. Then they can smuggle the rest of their family in through one of the very many networks of tunnels. fixed |
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Post by Trades on Feb 27, 2016 10:12:41 GMT -5
For me i gotta admit guys and gals, it's a difficult pick. I guess I'd feel better about Trump as a candidate if he wasn't Donald Trump.. Seems like the consumat meglomanic... Something just doesn't sit right with me.. The hair perhaps? I think that has a lot to do with the story we have been sold by the media. |
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Post by Ff2 on Feb 27, 2016 10:13:00 GMT -5
Love you brother.  What a bunch of drivel. Who is more fortunate? You? Or, the tens of millions of jobless American Citizens? Not to mention the American citizens whose economic welfare benefits are jeopardized because illegal immigrants cost the government millions in benefits ($15,000 per household in 2010). This Kumbaya shit may make you feel good about yourself, but it completely ignores the reality of it destroying prospects for an economic recovery in the US. I bet you wouldn't feel the same way if you lost your job because your boss wanted to hire an illegal immigrant. Even your "Bible" recognizes this: www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/01/06/do-immigrants-take-jobs-from-american-born-workers/unskilled-workers-lose-out-to-immigrantsIMO, even if 1 American Citizen loses their job to an illegal immigrant, that is one too many. Perhaps you should start caring about American Citizens as much as you care about illegal immigrants. If the immigrants are such wonderful productive hardworking people, we should make them stay in their own country so they can improve it. Immigration is a red herring issue, there currently is the same amount leaving as entering. and as soon as I see an American pickin out in the field I'll change my opinion. Talk to a farmer anf ask how they feel about immigration. We we need to worry more about ford moving plants to Mexico. That's what's destroying things, not some poor schlub picking oranges. immigrants make an easy target for the undereducated, we need an "other" to blame things on. Ask ford why they moved to Mexico. www.factcheck.org/2010/05/does-immigration-cost-jobs/ |
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Post by rangerous on Feb 27, 2016 10:33:18 GMT -5
Love you brother. What a bunch of drivel. Who is more fortunate? You? Or, the tens of millions of jobless American Citizens? Not to mention the American citizens whose economic welfare benefits are jeopardized because illegal immigrants cost the government millions in benefits ($15,000 per household in 2010). This Kumbaya shit may make you feel good about yourself, but it completely ignores the reality of it destroying prospects for an economic recovery in the US. I bet you wouldn't feel the same way if you lost your job because your boss wanted to hire an illegal immigrant. Even your "Bible" recognizes this: www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/01/06/do-immigrants-take-jobs-from-american-born-workers/unskilled-workers-lose-out-to-immigrantsIMO, even if 1 American Citizen loses their job to an illegal immigrant, that is one too many. Perhaps you should start caring about American Citizens as much as you care about illegal immigrants. If the immigrants are such wonderful productive hardworking people, we should make them stay in their own country so they can improve it. so ff2 is preaching the libtard line. maybe he had better go back and read what jesus did teach, namely about teaching people to fish. the libatrds have been throwing all sorts of goodies at the poor people so as to keep them firmly entrenched in their social caste. and race baiters like sharpton and jackson go around keeping these people stirred up by claiming that white america is keeping them down. i know the nfl is a poor example but with a near 80% minority rate, who's keeping whom down? mo' earned 7 million last season and is now looking for 15 million. the market, being what it is, means that's what he's worth but at the same time there is a point where it becomes too much. but i digress. what the libatrds have always failed to point out is that the illegals take jobs that are low paying and american workers prefer not to do. well guess what? if you keep the low wage workers out, then the wages for those jobs will have to rise. i know this past summer, there were many farms in the west that were paying more than 15/hr with benefits to pick vegetables. they couldn't find enough workers. what will happen is if it keeps up then wages will rise until the jobs get filled. i would gladly pay more for a head of lettuce if i knew that farm growing it was employing US citizens and, by extension, a decent wage. |
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Post by Trades on Feb 27, 2016 18:10:21 GMT -5
What a bunch of drivel. Who is more fortunate? You? Or, the tens of millions of jobless American Citizens? Not to mention the American citizens whose economic welfare benefits are jeopardized because illegal immigrants cost the government millions in benefits ($15,000 per household in 2010). This Kumbaya shit may make you feel good about yourself, but it completely ignores the reality of it destroying prospects for an economic recovery in the US. I bet you wouldn't feel the same way if you lost your job because your boss wanted to hire an illegal immigrant. Even your "Bible" recognizes this: www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/01/06/do-immigrants-take-jobs-from-american-born-workers/unskilled-workers-lose-out-to-immigrantsIMO, even if 1 American Citizen loses their job to an illegal immigrant, that is one too many. Perhaps you should start caring about American Citizens as much as you care about illegal immigrants. If the immigrants are such wonderful productive hardworking people, we should make them stay in their own country so they can improve it. so ff2 is preaching the libtard line. maybe he had better go back and read what jesus did teach, namely about teaching people to fish. the libatrds have been throwing all sorts of goodies at the poor people so as to keep them firmly entrenched in their social caste. and race baiters like sharpton and jackson go around keeping these people stirred up by claiming that white america is keeping them down. i know the nfl is a poor example but with a near 80% minority rate, who's keeping whom down? mo' earned 7 million last season and is now looking for 15 million. the market, being what it is, means that's what he's worth but at the same time there is a point where it becomes too much. but i digress. what the libatrds have always failed to point out is that the illegals take jobs that are low paying and american workers prefer not to do. well guess what? if you keep the low wage workers out, then the wages for those jobs will have to rise. i know this past summer, there were many farms in the west that were paying more than 15/hr with benefits to pick vegetables. they couldn't find enough workers. what will happen is if it keeps up then wages will rise until the jobs get filled. i would gladly pay more for a head of lettuce if i knew that farm growing it was employing US citizens and, by extension, a decent wage. The problem is that as automation/robotics improves those low wage jobs will easily price themselves out of the market. These was an article recently about a robotic lettuce farm |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 18:14:58 GMT -5
Being a man of the cloth, is Rev Al allowed pussy? He isn't a priest so yah. |
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Post by Big L on Feb 27, 2016 19:24:59 GMT -5
Being a man of the cloth, is Rev Al allowed pussy? He isn't a priest so yah. You think he's hitting a white piece of ass? |
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Post by Ff2 on Feb 27, 2016 19:28:52 GMT -5
What a bunch of drivel. Who is more fortunate? You? Or, the tens of millions of jobless American Citizens? Not to mention the American citizens whose economic welfare benefits are jeopardized because illegal immigrants cost the government millions in benefits ($15,000 per household in 2010). This Kumbaya shit may make you feel good about yourself, but it completely ignores the reality of it destroying prospects for an economic recovery in the US. I bet you wouldn't feel the same way if you lost your job because your boss wanted to hire an illegal immigrant. Even your "Bible" recognizes this: www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/01/06/do-immigrants-take-jobs-from-american-born-workers/unskilled-workers-lose-out-to-immigrantsIMO, even if 1 American Citizen loses their job to an illegal immigrant, that is one too many. Perhaps you should start caring about American Citizens as much as you care about illegal immigrants. If the immigrants are such wonderful productive hardworking people, we should make them stay in their own country so they can improve it. so ff2 is preaching the libtard line. maybe he had better go back and read what jesus did teach, namely about teaching people to fish. the libatrds have been throwing all sorts of goodies at the poor people so as to keep them firmly entrenched in their social caste. and race baiters like sharpton and jackson go around keeping these people stirred up by claiming that white america is keeping them down. i know the nfl is a poor example but with a near 80% minority rate, who's keeping whom down? mo' earned 7 million last season and is now looking for 15 million. the market, being what it is, means that's what he's worth but at the same time there is a point where it becomes too much. but i digress. what the libatrds have always failed to point out is that the illegals take jobs that are low paying and american workers prefer not to do. well guess what? if you keep the low wage workers out, then the wages for those jobs will have to rise. i know this past summer, there were many farms in the west that were paying more than 15/hr with benefits to pick vegetables. they couldn't find enough workers. what will happen is if it keeps up then wages will rise until the jobs get filled. i would gladly pay more for a head of lettuce if i knew that farm growing it was employing US citizens and, by extension, a decent wage. So you want top keep immigrants out so americans so can pick lettuce? thats a novel plan, I'll give you that. |
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Post by Gunnails on Feb 27, 2016 19:38:34 GMT -5
My grandparents picked fruits and vegetables, my parents worked in the fields, and so did I when I was young and had limited opportunities, my daughter broke the tradition..
I tire of the notion that illegals do the work that Americans won't.
Illegals lowered the rate of pay in many trades and forced many citizens out of work.
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Post by Ff2 on Feb 27, 2016 20:13:58 GMT -5
My grandparents picked fruits and vegetables, my parents worked in the fields, and so did I when I was young and had limited opportunities, my daughter broke the tradition.. I tire of the notion that illegals do the work that Americans won't. Illegals lowered the rate of pay in many trades and forced many citizens out of work. iN what trades did illegals lower the rate of pay in? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2016 22:28:50 GMT -5
He isn't a priest so yah. You think he's hitting a white piece of ass? Most likely asian. |
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Post by thebigragu on Feb 28, 2016 14:23:49 GMT -5
My grandparents picked fruits and vegetables, my parents worked in the fields, and so did I when I was young and had limited opportunities, my daughter broke the tradition.. I tire of the notion that illegals do the work that Americans won't. Illegals lowered the rate of pay in many trades and forced many citizens out of work. iN what trades did illegals lower the rate of pay in? Bricklayes and allied craftsman Steel workers All aspects of the Back Restaurant industry ie kitchens in small to yuuuge chains mom and pops Electricians Carpenters unions Landscaping was a predominantly italian owned buisness market trade Concrete was a predominantly italian owned buisness trade market Mechanic Shops everywhere. Tire shops everywhere I could go on and on but then you just notice another shiny object |
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Post by Gunnails on Feb 28, 2016 14:36:47 GMT -5
My grandparents picked fruits and vegetables, my parents worked in the fields, and so did I when I was young and had limited opportunities, my daughter broke the tradition.. I tire of the notion that illegals do the work that Americans won't. Illegals lowered the rate of pay in many trades and forced many citizens out of work. iN what trades did illegals lower the rate of pay in? ============================================ In my own personal experience i would say, insulators, dry wallers, land scapers, painters, roofing, etc. |
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Post by Hotman on Feb 28, 2016 14:58:42 GMT -5
iN what trades did illegals lower the rate of pay in? ============================================ In my own personal experience i would say, insulators, dry wallers, land scapers, painters, roofing, etc. No reason you should make more than $10 an hour doing any of this stuff. Just gotta work harder and longer hours amirite? Bootstraps and all that |
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Post by Hotman on Feb 28, 2016 15:01:04 GMT -5
The thing I have a hard time believing is why all of the sudden is Trump supposed to give a shit about the common man, whos jobs he is happy to replace with cheap illegal labor? He's even said he's gonna have the illegals building this waste of a wall...
fuckers are just gonna go thru the tunnels like they do all day long. wtf.
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