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Post by Hotman on Jun 5, 2016 3:28:55 GMT -5
It actually sounds like the players have been very impressed with Geno so far. We talkin' bout practice, man! what we talkin' bout ........... practice....... We talkin' bout practice, man! Throwing against air, and no contact.... lol ----------- and of course the players aren't going to say they don't want geno outright. The 2 best WR's we have had in a long time are saying they want Fitz back and hope and think he will sign means they don't want geno. If they wanted Geno they wouldn't talk about wanting and hoping Fitz comes back. Well Fitzy can't throw more than 15 yards against air so what you say about that then! Cmon man. I was all in on Fits for a while but the dude proved to the world what he is in Buffalo. Poetic justice. Pathetic poetic justice.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 5, 2016 3:34:50 GMT -5
Question - What if Geno Smith is the best QB of all 4 guys (Geno, Fitz, Petty, Hack)? Good post and I could easily see that scenario unfolding. He was easily the highest rated QB coming out of college compared to Petty and Hackenberg and is only entering his fourth season. The first two years of his development was completely mishandled at epic levels thanks too Wrecks and Idzik. The third year resulted in his punk ass bitch getting knocked out when he was finally grasping the NFL game. Quite the conundrum for a fan because we are not around these players on a daily basis and can't trust anything coming from the NY media. Will he learn and grow from last years experience........who knows at this point but he deserves a shot with this Offense instead of a career loser like Fitz. I hope Mac spends that Fitz money on locking up the best player on our team entering his prime in Mo Wilk. I wonder how many Jets fans that are pulling for Fitz at all costs, or any cost for that matter, used too laugh at an easy win for us when he was the starter in Buffalo? I think if he earns it he deserves a shit. Get your head popped in the pavement or get your JAW BROKE that can tend to smack some sense into you, especially with a multi million $$ job on the line. The fact that he's gotten ANY props, especially from the DEFENSE makes me at least wanna see what he can do with an actual offense, because the systems he was thrown into here was pure Dogshit.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 5, 2016 3:36:56 GMT -5
Geno will have a monster year. And I haven't even smoked yet. You're right Monsters can be awesome but a lot of the times terrifyingly awful.
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Post by porgyman on Jun 5, 2016 9:52:07 GMT -5
Just a quick question for the Fitz lovers. In citing his qualifications, I usually read comments regarding his "leadership ability" or ability to tutor Petty and Hack.
What exactly on his resume indicates that he is a great leader? Career losing record. No playoff appearances. Came up small in the biggest game.
Is this your definition of a leader? Do you consider a General that leads his troops into battle and has them slaughtered a great leader? When do results count?
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Jun 5, 2016 10:08:59 GMT -5
Just a quick question for the Fitz lovers. In citing his qualifications, I usually read comments regarding his "leadership ability" or ability to tutor Petty and Hack. What exactly on his resume indicates that he is a great leader? Career losing record. No playoff appearances. Came up small in the biggest game. Is this your definition of a leader? Do you consider a General that leads his troops into battle and has them slaughtered a great leader? When do results count? My position has been consistent... 10 win season. Continuity. If it blows up fuck it. Throw Hack or Petty in. Trade Geno to Buffalo for a smelly unwashed bag of jock straps...that glass jawed asshole is a pinhead. Got popped by his own teammate for being a low rent cocksucker...yeah. I want him to lead the Jets...
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Post by jets.penguin on Jun 5, 2016 10:36:16 GMT -5
Just a quick question for the Fitz lovers. In citing his qualifications, I usually read comments regarding his "leadership ability" or ability to tutor Petty and Hack. What exactly on his resume indicates that he is a great leader? Career losing record. No playoff appearances. Came up small in the biggest game. Is this your definition of a leader? Do you consider a General that leads his troops into battle and has them slaughtered a great leader? When do results count? My position has been consistent... 10 win season. Continuity. If it blows up fuck it. Throw Hack or Petty in. Trade Geno to Buffalo for a smelly unwashed bag of jock straps...that glass jawed asshole is a pinhead. Got popped by his own teammate for being a low rent cocksucker...yeah. I want him to lead the Jets... Fitz had one year of glory out of TEN, he is maddeningly, erratically, consistently, INCONSISTENT. Someone already said it best....it was the best year he EVER had, with the best team he has ever had, with the best receiving core he has ever had, with his favorite OC, the best schedule we could have possibly hoped for and he still couldnt get to the playoffs when he only needed one more win.....he threw 3 ...count 'em THREE interceptions in the 4th quarter...and he wants to QUADRUPLE his salary to throw more of those floating ducks and pray someone reaches back to grab them before the db gets there. The only thing he consistently does in his career is NOT make the playoffs.... FUCK FITZ!!
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Post by jets.penguin on Jun 5, 2016 11:32:26 GMT -5
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Post by Aussie Jet on Jun 5, 2016 23:19:22 GMT -5
This poll is like asking which you would prefer - AIDS (Geno) or cancer (Fitzpatrick).
I'm on the Geno freight train. Fitzpatrick has delusions of grandeur if he thinks he's worth what he allegedly is demanding from the Jets. Maccagnan is quite right to hold the line against Fitzpatrick and I'd be annoyed if Maccagnan waits this long before caving into his demands. Geno was thrown into the fire without the benefit of sitting behind a veteran QB and absorbing how things work in the NFL (particularly in New York); just another legacy given to us by Rex Ryan and his band of merry fools (did Mornhinweg ever land another job after Maccagnan fired him?).
I don't want to excuse Geno for all his faults, as he was an immature brat handed the keys to the Mercedes, but at this point in time, I'd rather play Geno cheap, give Mo a deal that we can all live with and fashion our identity around a defence-first, run-oriented offence that bores opponents to death, with the occasional highlight reel catch from Brandon Marshall and steady production from Decker (which would be nice, given I've just traded for him in a dynasty league).
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Post by jetstream23 on Jun 6, 2016 0:11:39 GMT -5
Geno w/ Petty and Hack competing for #2. Next year Petty and Hack compete for #1 with the other being the backup. Question - What if Geno Smith is the best QB of all 4 guys (Geno, Fitz, Petty, Hack)? Still hanging on to that Petty-thing hey? lol....well, he's still on a cheap rookie deal and we don't really know what we've got in him. No reason to dump him yet unless the FO and coaching staff see absolutely no progress from last year when they get to Camp this summer. If they think there's no hope at all and they want a roster spot freed up then yeah, I guess they could dump Petty, but I don't see him going anywhere, especially with Fitz still unsigned. If Fitz comes aboard then I really don't see the Jets keeping 4 QBs no matter what Maccagnan said.
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Post by Paradis on Jun 6, 2016 0:43:33 GMT -5
Still hanging on to that Petty-thing hey? lol....well, he's still on a cheap rookie deal and we don't really know what we've got in him. No reason to dump him yet unless the FO and coaching staff see absolutely no progress from last year when they get to Camp this summer. If they think there's no hope at all and they want a roster spot freed up then yeah, I guess they could dump Petty, but I don't see him going anywhere, especially with Fitz still unsigned. If Fitz comes aboard then I really don't see the Jets keeping 4 QBs no matter what Maccagnan said. I was teasing mostly - but generally speaking I have noticed the rattle of swords on shields from team Petty has predictably quieted since we drafted Hack. Hasn't helped his cause that he continues to stink it up in shorts and tshirts. I hope that he can develop into a number 2... But even the market for that is tight/tough. Teams still seem willing to employ the services of the guys with starts under their belts. Any chances of that happening dies with a Fitz signing IMO
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Post by jets.penguin on Jun 6, 2016 1:12:42 GMT -5
actually it occurred to me that this issue with Fitz is not about him at all. I wonder if this is all about not having a vet QB under contract for NEXT year. Geno will be a free agent, if we dont sign Fitz he will be a free agent and all we have will be 2 kids who have little or no experience with live bullets.
We cant take that risk so Fitz will NEVER get a one year deal even if he said he'd take 6 mil and a bag of cheetos....it puts the team in a position of having to negotiate with their top 2 qb's in the same off season and when have you ever seen that happen successfully. Fitz can sign a multiple year deal or kick rocks. Geno can and should play this year so we know what to do with his ass next year...we already know what we are doing with Fitz next year.
#fuckfitz
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Post by Harrier on Jun 6, 2016 4:14:42 GMT -5
actually it occurred to me that this issue with Fitz is not about him at all. I wonder if this is all about not having a vet QB under contract for NEXT year. Geno will be a free agent, if we dont sign Fitz he will be a free agent and all we have will be 2 kids who have little or no experience with live bullets. We cant take that risk so Fitz will NEVER get a one year deal even if he said he'd take 6 mil and a bag of cheetos....it puts the team in a position of having to negotiate with their top 2 qb's in the same off season and when have you ever seen that happen successfully. Fitz can sign a multiple year deal or kick rocks. Geno can and should play this year so we know what to do with his ass next year...we already know what we are doing with Fitz next year. #fuckfitz FitzNation® thinks it's acceptable to pay this man 12 million dollars "until Hack-Petty are ready" like it's chump change and not financially detrimental to the team. In fact most just want to pay Fitz out of pure hatred for Geno so he doesn't get another shot.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 6, 2016 5:42:08 GMT -5
actually it occurred to me that this issue with Fitz is not about him at all. I wonder if this is all about not having a vet QB under contract for NEXT year. Geno will be a free agent, if we dont sign Fitz he will be a free agent and all we have will be 2 kids who have little or no experience with live bullets. We cant take that risk so Fitz will NEVER get a one year deal even if he said he'd take 6 mil and a bag of cheetos....it puts the team in a position of having to negotiate with their top 2 qb's in the same off season and when have you ever seen that happen successfully. Fitz can sign a multiple year deal or kick rocks. Geno can and should play this year so we know what to do with his ass next year...we already know what we are doing with Fitz next year. #fuckfitz FitzNation® thinks it's acceptable to pay this man 12 million dollars "until Hack-Petty are ready" like it's chump change and not financially detrimental to the team. In fact most just want to pay Fitz out of pure hatred for Geno so he doesn't get another shot. Those ppl are called racist
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Jun 6, 2016 6:22:51 GMT -5
Yea. I hate Geno. Only because he sucks. And gets beat up by his teammates.. He could be green skinned and I'd still want him off the roster...
What will be enjoyable is all you Geno lovers and supporters will be singing a much different tune after mid season if that assclown starts...
That will be glorious...
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Post by Hotman on Jun 6, 2016 6:28:30 GMT -5
Yea. I hate Geno. Only because he sucks. And gets beat up by his teammates.. He could be green skinned and I'd still want him off the roster... What will be enjoyable is all you Geno lovers and supporters will be singing a much different tune after mid season if that assclown starts... That will be glorious... I feel I need to be clear that I am far from a geno lover. I have almost zero faith in him. But the problem is Fits is fucking insane and hes not worth even half of what the jets already offered. He's a fuckin choker. And he's making us look bad so he turned me against him. Rather see if geno is truly pure shit or not. Its a long shot for sure.
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