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Post by Hotman on Jun 12, 2016 7:48:03 GMT -5
You'll see... They will politicize it sooner than later. Watch. Who will politicize what...and how? If you mean gun-control advocates...you're right, but frankly I have no focking idea what you are incoherently rambling on about. Conveying ideas requires thought and execution, not just randomly hitting keys between doots. I mean the mob mentality people who are led by politicians who want to ban guns, who think every christian is a racist bigot who needs to be eliminated, etc. Maybe I see more of this than you guys do, I guess being younger so I see shit from these idiots. They make me mad to be even the slightest bit associated with them due to being pro Bernie. Like I said, I saw that vid of them attacking Trump supporters and it was disgusting. Ragu saw it in person. He knows. These assholes got me defending Trump now somehow. It's insane.
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Post by porgyman on Jun 12, 2016 7:50:52 GMT -5
Dude shoots up a gay club... Domestic terrorism... My Mehta connecting the dots means some Christian homophobic nut job. That's my thought as well. Until we know the identity of the shooter, everything is just speculation.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 12, 2016 7:51:36 GMT -5
Dude shoots up a gay club... Domestic terrorism... My Mehta connecting the dots means some Christian homophobic nut job. Difficult to tell from the presser. Local guy says Domestic terrorism, FBI gets up and basically says its possible it was Islamic (in response to a reporters question.) Well they killed them... But no other info. Either way, there is way more problems than these Islamic cockroaches... And they are on ALL SIDES of the politics, races, etc. I dunno man.. Call me crazy, but I see this damn country trying everything they can to spark civil war. It makes no damn sense. Fuckin rise up against the REAL problem. I got a lot of thoughts so you know they can come out mixed sometimes.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 12, 2016 7:59:10 GMT -5
The FBI has stated they are looking into possible radical Islamic ties. Which could mean they already knew who this person was before he did this. I wouldnt be surprised if we found out this guy was on a watch list.
Islamic terrorism can be foreign or domestic. They have recruited US citizens. The difference IMO is purely political. If he came from outside the country then our immigration policies go under attack. If he was from inside the country then they try to make it about gun control. Rinse and repeat.
And kudos to the reporter that asked the question and even more to the official who answered it honestly. He said they had some information that may suggest he leaned towards that ideology but nothing was definitive yet. He is probably getting reamed by his superiors for answering that.
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Post by Big L on Jun 12, 2016 8:06:13 GMT -5
Doesn't make sense to specifically target a gay club if it's Islamic. Would have greater effect to shoot up a place where everyone goes to terrorize all groups, not just a specific group of people. Re: recent events in France and Belgium.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 12, 2016 8:09:13 GMT -5
Doesn't make sense to specifically target a gay club if it's Islamic. Would have greater effect to shoot up a place where everyone goes to terrorize all groups, not just a specific group of people. Re: recent events in France and Belgium. They go after soft targets. The gay club thing is just icing on the cake. There is no typical terrorist attack anymore. Most of these are lone wolves that are just trying to cause destruction wherever they can. And they are just as homophobic as the conservative Christians. Gays get thrown off buildings by ISIS.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 12, 2016 8:18:46 GMT -5
The FBI has stated they are looking into possible radical Islamic ties. Which could mean they already knew who this person was before he did this. I wouldnt be surprised if we found out this guy was on a watch list. I just saw something with a bunch of tweets that are supposedly from ISIS shit cheering this and with pictures of the guy. Not sure if it's real so I'm not gonna bother posting it, but it looks pretty legit. And if it's real they are threatening more attacks.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 12, 2016 8:27:56 GMT -5
The FBI has stated they are looking into possible radical Islamic ties. Which could mean they already knew who this person was before he did this. I wouldnt be surprised if we found out this guy was on a watch list. I just saw something with a bunch of tweets that are supposedly from ISIS shit cheering this and with pictures of the guy. Not sure if it's real so I'm not gonna bother posting it, but it looks pretty legit. And if it's real they are threatening more attacks. I hope that all the initial reports are proven false and this ends up being some Duck Dynasty lookalike and we can make this about gay rights and guns and who was peeing in a bathroom but my brain wont allow it. Like many Americans I am exasperated. We have an enemy that has declared war on our civilization yet we allow them to exist. They are willing to do whatever it takes to spread their ideology and not only do we refuse to identify them, we fight them with one-hand behind our backs. I used to think that radical Islam was not an existential threat to this country and I am still leaning toward that but the scales are moving.
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Jun 12, 2016 8:28:16 GMT -5
Just fucked up. I never considered getting a pistol permit until recently.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 12, 2016 8:36:56 GMT -5
I just saw something with a bunch of tweets that are supposedly from ISIS shit cheering this and with pictures of the guy. Not sure if it's real so I'm not gonna bother posting it, but it looks pretty legit. And if it's real they are threatening more attacks. I hope that all the initial reports are proven false and this ends up being some Duck Dynasty lookalike and we can make this about gay rights and guns and who was peeing in a bathroom but my brain wont allow it. Like many Americans I am exasperated. We have an enemy that has declared war on our civilization yet we allow them to exist. They are willing to do whatever it takes to spread their ideology and not only do we refuse to identify them, we fight them with one-hand behind our backs. I used to think that radical Islam was not an existential threat to this country and I am still leaning toward that but the scales are moving. Yeah, um... It's real, and they are here already, just fuckin waiting. I'm not into the fear mongering propaganda and I don't think all muslims are evil, but only a clueless fucking moron thinks that acknowledging that VERY REAL threat is some kind of bigoted xenophobia. Just don't know what's wrong with these people.
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Jun 12, 2016 8:43:13 GMT -5
Guys name was Omar Matin, reportedly not from Orlando...
Here we fucking go....
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Post by Hotman on Jun 12, 2016 8:43:14 GMT -5
Just fucked up. I never considered getting a pistol permit until recently. Fuckin sad, man. Bazzar as hell that this girl got gunned down signing autographs in the same damn city the night before tho. I guess this motherfucker figured no time like the present. Look I may like Bernie and I may be about equal justice for everyone, but also, if you are a violent offender and especially against innocent people, like fuckin kids, women, gas station clerk, whatever, the way I see it they need to be put down like rabid dogs. Not protected and coddled so they can come back and do 10X the damage. And these radical fucks need to be taken seriously. They flat out say they want to murder all of us. And they DO IT. I'm not really sure what the fuckin answer is TBH what do you do?! They are spread out all over the place. The world is infested. Really fucked up, man. (I'm just goin off if those tweets I saw were real or not... If so, it should be a massive wake up call)
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Jun 12, 2016 8:44:27 GMT -5
Dude was Muslim.
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Jun 12, 2016 8:45:26 GMT -5
I know that we are more likely to be hurt/injured driving to work, but this could serve as a wake up call for many.
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Post by southside on Jun 12, 2016 9:06:56 GMT -5
Heard about the young girl yesterday morning before my golf outing. It was terrible to hear.
And if anyone politicizes the Orlando shooting and tries to hide that it was a sleeper cell much like the San Bernardino shooting is PROBABLY secretly aligned with the Muslim agenda. That's my viewpoint.
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