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Post by DDNYjets on Jul 15, 2016 6:08:40 GMT -5
Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel
Sounds like a Christian baker.
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Post by rangerous on Jul 15, 2016 6:16:02 GMT -5
To me, it's just like Japan in 45. We keep dropping nukes until they surrender their entire society to us to mold as we see fit or until the Japanese culture goes the way of the Babylonians - nothing but a memory. They made the right decision. the japanese culture didn't evaporate, it adapted. we are seeing these morons trying to force their warped ideas on the rest of the world and then wondering why people don't necessarily like them. how on earth such a large organization essentially enslave women is beyond me but that's what the mideast version of islam does. go to asia and islam is a whole lot difference mainly because it adapted to local conditions. the only way to stop this is for the mideast muslims to denounce groups like isis and taliban and have the courage to use force of arms, if necessary, to throw these groups out. and enough with this mamby pamby treatment of these islamo nazis. they are scum and like scum they need to be scrubbed off the planet. |
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Jul 15, 2016 6:24:05 GMT -5
To me, it's just like Japan in 45. We keep dropping nukes until they surrender their entire society to us to mold as we see fit or until the Japanese culture goes the way of the Babylonians - nothing but a memory. They made the right decision. the japanese culture didn't evaporate, it adapted. we are seeing these morons trying to force their warped ideas on the rest of the world and then wondering why people don't necessarily like them. how on earth such a large organization essentially enslave women is beyond me but that's what the mideast version of islam does. go to asia and islam is a whole lot difference mainly because it adapted to local conditions. the only way to stop this is for the mideast muslims to denounce groups like isis and taliban and have the courage to use force of arms, if necessary, to throw these groups out. and enough with this mamby pamby treatment of these islamo nazis. they are scum and like scum they need to be scrubbed off the planet. I didn't say they evaporated. I said we would have evaporated them unless they submitted their society to us completely. They did. Good choice by them. |
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Post by Harrier on Jul 15, 2016 6:58:25 GMT -5
The only option I see right now in the future is to have the holy war they so seek.
Every free country on all continents should join to create a mega force and just destroy the whole Islamic state Hiroshima style.
Enough of just looking at each other and expecting the other to do something.
It's not PC, it's not humane or ethical, but it looks like the only way this will end, because if nothing gets done it will be on your family's doorstep in 300 years and thier liberal "it won't happen to us" approach won't save them.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jul 15, 2016 7:18:39 GMT -5
You're not very good at predicting the future. I don't know who you are , and you clearly don't know who I am. Why don't you reserve your antagonism towards other posters and pot stirring for a place without such tragedy |
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Jul 15, 2016 7:19:49 GMT -5
You're not very good at predicting the future. I don't know who you are , and you clearly don't know who I am. Why don't you reserve your antagonism towards other posters and pot stirring for a place without such tragedy This is the political forum - this is where the pot is stirred. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jul 15, 2016 7:19:53 GMT -5
The answer isn't a holy war or any war. These people have been at war for over a thousand years. All they know is war and misery.
Frankly, I don't even think they want freedom or independence. I don't even think the majority of them even understand it because they have never had it. Freedom and independence are Western ideas. We don't need to give them their independence.
My solution is simple. We need to "colonize" (for lack of a better term) those countries and take the oil. And by colonize I don't mean try to convince them to convert to Christianity. Basically we set up shop there and use their oil money to rebuild the countries and pay for our presence. Let the Christians have their place, the muslims have their place and we just basically babysit them for eternity or until the oil dries up. I think if we give them 100 years of good schools and good shelter, food and clean water (all paid for by their oil) eventually the "hearts and minds" approach may work. Like pretty much every problem in this world the only real solution is education and opportunity and patience bc it takes time.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jul 15, 2016 7:21:39 GMT -5
You're not very good at predicting the future. I don't know who you are , and you clearly don't know who I am. Why don't you reserve your antagonism towards other posters and pot stirring for a place without such tragedy This is the political forum - this is where the pot is stirred. I know what forum it is. You seem to have confused it with Thunderdome. Talk about politics not other posters |
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Jul 15, 2016 7:23:14 GMT -5
The answer isn't a holy war or any war. These people have been at war for over a thousand years. All they know is war and misery. Frankly, I don't even think they want freedom or independence. I don't even think the majority of them even understand it because they have never had it. Freedom and independence are Western ideas. We don't need to give them their independence. My solution is simple. We need to "colonize" (for lack of a better term) those countries and take the oil. And by colonize I don't mean try to convince them to convert to Christianity. Basically we set up shop there and use their oil money to rebuild the countries and pay for our presence. Let the Christians have their place, the muslims have their place and we just basically babysit them for eternity or until the oil dries up. I think if we give them 100 years of good schools and good shelter, food and clean water (all paid for by their oil) eventually the "hearts and minds" approach may work. Like pretty much every problem in this world the only real solution is education and opportunity and patience bc it takes time. Disagree. Who wants to wait 100 years for an experiment to maybe work. Do know what works? Salting the Earth - how many evil Carthaginians have you met lately? |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jul 15, 2016 7:28:39 GMT -5
You're not very good at predicting the future. I don't know who you are , and you clearly don't know who I am. Why don't you reserve your antagonism towards other posters and pot stirring for a place without such tragedy This is the political forum - this is where the pot is stirred. Difference between pot stirring and personal attacks. You don't need to "call out" individual posters that you disagree with. But if you do feel the need to personally attack someone you should take a page from 32 or FF2s playbook and at least make it funny. |
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Post by Harrier on Jul 15, 2016 7:32:36 GMT -5
Where was the personal attack?
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Jul 15, 2016 7:33:02 GMT -5
This is the political forum - this is where the pot is stirred. Difference between pot stirring and personal attacks. You don't need to "call out" individual posters that you disagree with. But if you do feel the need to personally attack someone you should take a page from 32 or FF2s playbook and at least make it funny. I'm not attacking them personally, I'm attacking their views - and the owner of this site allows it: thebigragu King of the Hamplar ****** And away we go... Posts: 19,495 REP: 82 GIVE/////TAKE Dislikes: 7 Badges Of Honor...And Shame MODERATE YOURSELVES Jan 9, 2015 at 2:54pm Jetworks likes this Post by thebigragu on Jan 9, 2015 at 2:54pm I made this forum like real life, if you say something others do not like be prepared to be disagreed with, attacked or picked on in any conversation at anytime. This is a un moderated forum unless blatant racism starts occurring that wont be tolerated. This is not JI and its not your high school debate team. its real life, everyone is a grown man if you cant handle it in here, your probably better off sticking to the other Forums. Also Do not bring the vitriol that might be expressed here out onto the other parts of the board. Thanks. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Jul 15, 2016 7:35:27 GMT -5
The answer isn't a holy war or any war. These people have been at war for over a thousand years. All they know is war and misery. Frankly, I don't even think they want freedom or independence. I don't even think the majority of them even understand it because they have never had it. Freedom and independence are Western ideas. We don't need to give them their independence. My solution is simple. We need to "colonize" (for lack of a better term) those countries and take the oil. And by colonize I don't mean try to convince them to convert to Christianity. Basically we set up shop there and use their oil money to rebuild the countries and pay for our presence. Let the Christians have their place, the muslims have their place and we just basically babysit them for eternity or until the oil dries up. I think if we give them 100 years of good schools and good shelter, food and clean water (all paid for by their oil) eventually the "hearts and minds" approach may work. Like pretty much every problem in this world the only real solution is education and opportunity and patience bc it takes time. Disagree. Who wants to wait 100 years for an experiment to maybe work. Do know what works? Salting the Earth - how many evil Carthaginians have you met lately? That stuff may have worked in ancient times. You can't kill an ideology. Certainly not in today's small world where everyone is connected and has a platform. We drop a nuke on them and the oil goes  We can't afford to take care of ourselves let alone the Middle East. Eradicating them is only one step of a solution. We need to eradicate and then babysit. Eradicating created power vacuums like the ones that birthed ISIS. I know people don't want to hear this but there can be no exit from the Middle East. We leave and someone will take our spot. Rinse and repeat. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 15, 2016 7:43:37 GMT -5
Disagree. Who wants to wait 100 years for an experiment to maybe work. Do know what works? Salting the Earth - how many evil Carthaginians have you met lately? That stuff may have worked in ancient times. You can't kill an ideology. Certainly not in today's small world where everyone is connected and has a platform. We drop a nuke on them and the oil goes We can't afford to take care of ourselves let alone the Middle East. Eradicating them is only one step of a solution. We need to eradicate and then babysit. Eradicating created power vacuums like the ones that birthed ISIS. I know people don't want to hear this but there can be no exit from the Middle East. We leave and someone will take our spot. Rinse and repeat. This. Also, if someone thinks bombing Mecca stops a truck in France...well...no. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 15, 2016 7:46:27 GMT -5
Maybe because Mecca is actually a place ISIS has vowed to destroy. But if you would like to go ahead and do it for them, by all means. Thats a unique strategy. As I've said before, enough of trying to separate the good from the bad. We've spent 30 years trying to do that and I really don't want my grandchildren trying to do that 30 or 60 years from now. If you have a virus in a person that continually mutates and replicates and is contagious, eventually you stop trying to fight the virus and kill the entire body. Harsh, yep. But if it's me or them, i don't mind cracking a few million eggs to make my omelette. You do that and you GUARANTEE your great great great great grandchildren will be still fighting Muslims. |
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