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Post by jetssjumets on Dec 31, 2014 15:13:52 GMT -5
What do you mean by that? Did Woody say something on the record against Gamble two years ago? Just asking because, if he did, I missed that. There was some talk at the time that Gamble was unimpressive during interviews and there was something about him that kept him from being hired for the multiple jobs he interviewed for. Not really anything specific though. Thanks. I was not aware of that info. As you know, some people know how to shine in an interview but can not have the best production once they get the job. The same can be true here. All that should matter for Woody is his performance as a footabll ex/manager. His stint with the 49ers merits his immediate consideration. Bring him and Scott to NY to do what they accomplished in SF.
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Post by morite on Dec 31, 2014 15:25:41 GMT -5
I would hope that someone (Casserly/Wolf) would do their due diligence on the Philly situation before they even entertain a request to interview. Personally, I'd like to get the to focus on getting DeCosta in a room and making sure he doesn't leave without signing. We have the juice to do it...we're a NY football franchise for fxxx's sake.
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Post by bxjetfan on Dec 31, 2014 15:43:53 GMT -5
Philly is a pretty stable organization. Kinda surprised at this and makes me wonder what the hell happened.
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Post by jetssjumets on Dec 31, 2014 18:48:49 GMT -5
Philly is a pretty stable organization. Kinda surprised at this and makes me wonder what the hell happened. I read somewhere (can't recall) that is was a battle between Kelly and the GM, and Kelly lost. Gamble was supposedly close to Kelly.
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Post by JB1089 on Dec 31, 2014 21:03:35 GMT -5
I've been lurking on the Eagles board this year (following the Sanchez story). Apparently, one of the main reasons that Gamble wound up in Philly was to be close to his father, Harry Gamble (former Eagles GM) who was very ill. His father passed away earlier this year and his relationship with the current GM, Roseman, was contentious. Prior to this news breaking, some Eagles fans were worried that Gamble would just walk away at the end of the year now that he didn't really have anything tying him to Philly.
So to me, it almost comes off as "Oh, you think you're leaving? Well, GTFO then!"
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Post by jetssjumets on Jan 1, 2015 12:41:03 GMT -5
I've been lurking on the Eagles board this year (following the Sanchez story). Apparently, one of the main reasons that Gamble wound up in Philly was to be close to his father, Harry Gamble (former Eagles GM) who was very ill. His father passed away earlier this year and his relationship with the current GM, Roseman, was contentious. Prior to this news breaking, some Eagles fans were worried that Gamble would just walk away at the end of the year now that he didn't really have anything tying him to Philly. So to me, it almost comes off as "Oh, you think you're leaving? Well, GTFO then!" Thanks. Whatever the reason, Woody had better go get him and Scott. WTF is he waiting for? There's your front office tandem right in front of you.
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Post by flushingjet on Jan 1, 2015 20:20:20 GMT -5
I knew that would come in Give yourself a pat on the back. ...or the front.
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Post by 68JET11 on Jan 2, 2015 8:01:15 GMT -5
I've been lurking on the Eagles board this year (following the Sanchez story). Apparently, one of the main reasons that Gamble wound up in Philly was to be close to his father, Harry Gamble (former Eagles GM) who was very ill. His father passed away earlier this year and his relationship with the current GM, Roseman, was contentious. Prior to this news breaking, some Eagles fans were worried that Gamble would just walk away at the end of the year now that he didn't really have anything tying him to Philly. So to me, it almost comes off as "Oh, you think you're leaving? Well, GTFO then!" Thanks. Whatever the reason, Woody had better go get him and Scott. WTF is he waiting for? There's your front office tandem right in front of you. You and I seem to be the only ones that recognize that Scot is probably the best candidate if indeed his drinking problem is cleaned up. Nothing wrong with a beer here and there, but not to the point he was drinking. If he's truly better, then he should be interviewed to at least gauge his interest. They are in Seattle today and he's just up the road.
GO INTERVIEW HIM WOODY !!!!!!
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Post by joepnyj1 on Jan 2, 2015 8:06:14 GMT -5
Philly is a pretty stable organization. Kinda surprised at this and makes me wonder what the hell happened. Not really...IMO Howie Roseman is one of the worst GM's in the league. He is nothing but a corporate yes man who kisses the owners ass. He let go of promising talent evaluators like Heckert, Banner, Grigson and now Gamble. Those are the guys that built that talented football team. So I am hoping and praying that Woody has zero interest in this guy.
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Post by USAFJetFan on Jan 2, 2015 9:36:37 GMT -5
Thanks. Whatever the reason, Woody had better go get him and Scott. WTF is he waiting for? There's your front office tandem right in front of you. You and I seem to be the only ones that recognize that Scot is probably the best candidate if indeed his drinking problem is cleaned up. Nothing wrong with a beer here and there, but not to the point he was drinking. If he's truly better, then he should be interviewed to at least gauge his interest. They are in Seattle today and he's just up the road.
GO INTERVIEW HIM WOODY !!!!!!
Scot is my #1 choice as well but there hasn't been any indication that they are considering him. Could be because they don't need to ask permission or maybe he is a second tier candidate. I wish they would at least give him a fair shake.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 2, 2015 11:15:11 GMT -5
Philly is a pretty stable organization. Kinda surprised at this and makes me wonder what the hell happened. Not really...IMO Howie Roseman is one of the worst GM's in the league. He is nothing but a corporate yes man who kisses the owners ass. He let go of promising talent evaluators like Heckert, Banner, Grigson and now Gamble. Those are the guys that built that talented football team. So I am hoping and praying that Woody has zero interest in this guy. What do you mean he got rid of them? Guys like Heckert and Grigson left when they received GM jobs with the Browns and Colts. If anything, it's a plus that Roseman has shown that he's able to continuously put together an awesome scouting staff.
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Post by Fishooked on Jan 2, 2015 12:33:03 GMT -5
This whole Eagles situation is getting ugly. finance.yahoo.com/news/chip-kelly-losing-power-struggle-153200072.htmlHow about Chip Kelly & Tom Gamble? Sign me up - The Philadelphia Eagles are the latest NFL team to have a power struggle between their coach and their general manager. According to widespread reports, the relationship between coach Chip Kelly and GM Howie Roseman has deteriorated. On New Year's Eve the team fired player personnel executive Tom Gamble. Kelly and Gamble reportedly had a close relationship. According to Mark Eckel of NJ.com, it was thought that the Kelly-Gamble alliance would try to force out Roseman: During the season, Kelly joined Gamble on scouting trips and the alliance created tension in the front office. Some speculated that Kelly — a popular head coach with a massive contract — and Gamble would team to force out Roseman, and Gamble would be elevated to general manager. Instead Gamble was escorted from the team's facility on Wednesday. The Philadelphia media painted it as a massive win for Roseman in the power struggle. One source told CSN Philly that owner Jeffrey Lurie saw Roseman as a "messiah," and beat writer Geoff Mosher wrote: "Given the bond between Kelly and Gamble and the tensions between Kelly and Roseman, it's fair to wonder if Kelly will stick around for the long haul, even after telling reporters on Monday that he loved coaching in the NFL and his job with the Eagles." According to Eckel, the Kelly-Roseman tension increased Monday when Kelly narrowly painted the GM as just a salary-cap manager in a news conference. The quote: I understand [the salary cap], but that's really what [Roseman] does an outstanding job of. I think since I've been here, one of the attractive things about this job, there are not cap issues. You don't look at it and go, 'Oh, my God. We're going to have to cut 12 players because we're going to be $40 million over the cap.' He does an outstanding job of that. That's his training." That quote "infuriated" Roseman, Eckel says. As Philly.com's Jeff McLane notes, Kelly has never praised Roseman's football knowledge since he joined the team. We've seen power struggles like this cost coaches their jobs around the NFL over the past few weeks. The most obvious comparison is Jim Harbaugh, whose relationship with San Francisco 49ers GM Trent Baalke and owner Jed York turned so sour that the team tried to trade him, and then allowed him to leave despite remarkable success during his four-year tenure. We also saw it in Buffalo, where coach Doug Marrone opted out of his contract after his relationship with GM Doug Whaley had "fallen apart." There's always going to be a natural tension between these two jobs. When asked about the Kelly-Roseman dynamic in November, Lurie said a little combativeness in the front office could be a good thing: I see two really valued executives, Chip and Howie. Add [team president] Don Smolenski to that. These are three obsessed-to-being-good executives. They have different roles. They cross over at different points. But I think you know me. I like to surround myself with — not yes-men, but strong, opinionated people that are really dedicated to making us really good. That's what those three do. I couldn't be more proud of all three. But as we've seen in San Francisco and Buffalo, there's a fine line there. Even if a coach has been successful — and Kelly has in his first two seasons — he can be out the door if the relationship with the front office collapses.
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Post by ryu79 on Jan 2, 2015 14:00:23 GMT -5
ha. chip kelly would be nice.
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Post by Hotman on Jan 2, 2015 14:08:15 GMT -5
Eagles need to hire Rex and we'll take Chip Kelly
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Post by ryu79 on Jan 2, 2015 14:12:57 GMT -5
Eagles need to hire Rex and we'll take Chip Kelly Now THAT would be a coup.
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