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Post by Touchable on Feb 8, 2017 9:59:04 GMT -5
As it stands right now, those are my Top 2 choices at #6. Hell, assuming Garrett is long gone, then those are my Top 2 prospects in the entire draft.
To me, you can't go wrong either way.
With Fournette, you're getting a physical freak in the mold of Adrian Peterson who can be the foundation of your offense for the next 8-10 years. And with no proven QB to speak of on the roster, you could do worse than adding an all-pro caliber RB to help shore up the offense.
With Adams, you're getting an incredibly well-rounded safety who commands the respect of his teammates and whose leadership skills are said to be through the roof. The kind of guy who can be the face and unquestioned leader of your defense for the next decade along the lines of a Troy Polamalu.
A backfield of Fournette/Powell/Forte intrigues the hell out of me...but so does the potential of Adams and Revis forming a dynamite safety duo on the backend (whether you support Revis converting to FS or not, I think the Jets are going to try it for at least a year).
So, both of the LSU products are staring you in the face at #6...who do you take?
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Post by Stark on Feb 8, 2017 12:25:58 GMT -5
I think I lean towards Fournette. Finally would give opposing Defenses someone to have to game plan for on every play.
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Post by Lithfan on Feb 8, 2017 12:31:53 GMT -5
Fournette. It is time we draft some offense in the first round.
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Post by maury77 on Feb 8, 2017 12:52:07 GMT -5
Fournette.
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Post by RobR on Feb 8, 2017 13:03:04 GMT -5
You know I want offense in the worst way but I just feel wary of Fournette. He'll probably be great and I'll be wrong but I can see him busting.
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Post by ruby2 on Feb 8, 2017 19:25:34 GMT -5
Give me offense or give me death.
It is laughable to think that the last offensive skill player we took in the first was Dustin Keller. That was almost 10 years ago!
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Post by maury77 on Feb 8, 2017 20:53:33 GMT -5
This is a good Fournette video analysis
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Post by RobR on Feb 9, 2017 0:15:02 GMT -5
This is a good Fournette video analysis Too upright, no wiggle, came up short in big games(I'll give him a pass on this aspect), injury prone, nothing like Adrian Peterson even though he is compared to him.....not even close. |
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 0:33:25 GMT -5
Gerald Everett
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Post by peppep on Feb 9, 2017 11:03:55 GMT -5
A couple of things.
I'm just going to start by saying that I believe Fournette is one of, if not THE top pure talents in this draft. You got it right when you said he is a physical freak. Size, speed, athleticism, strength. They are all there.
I also believe some of the criticisms are, quite frankly, unfair. Fournette was not utilized as a pass catcher, but he has the hands and skill to do so. He has good vision and elusiveness, although he relies on power and speed. He struggled against Alabama. But you can hardly put the blame on him when the best defense in college football decides to take you away at all cost and your line does not protect you. i.e. defenders were in the backfield before he could even make a move. I watched that game. To blame Fournette for not 'showing up' against Alabama is laughable.
Two things will make Fournette drop to 6. The fact that he is a RB. And his ankle injury issues. The latter is a legitimate concern for me. I don't know if I would call him 'injury prone', that would suggest numerous injuries over his career. But his ankle injury has been a chronic problem.
So, a top prospect like Fournette will most likely drop to 6 for the Jets. Do they take him? I sure would. What about the ankle issues? Its a concern. And that's why some of the best doctors are hired by NFL teams to figure out exactly what the risk/reward and long term effects are.
As far as Adams. What's not to love? He can do it all. Well, the problem is there's another prospect by the name of Malik Hooker. Heard of him? Yes, I have M.Hooker ahead of Adams as an NFL prospect. If he is there at 6 along with Adams, I take Hooker. That's just me. These guys are 1 and 1A in my book.
So. Who to take if both Adams and Fournette are on the board, Fournette is 100% healthy and lets just assume Hooker goes to Tenn at 5? I got with the top overall talent in Fournette and frankly, I don't think twice. I think he will make a bigger immediate impact. I think he plays a position that can change the game more so than a premier safety, although I fully recognize that can be an argument made both ways. And I think an impact players at RB will do wonders for a young QB (I am specifically talking about Hack).
What is MOST interesting to me, is what shoudl the Jets do if Fournette, a top QB, Adams, Barnette, etc. are on the board and the Jets get a trade offer to move down. What then?
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Post by maury77 on Feb 9, 2017 11:49:24 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum Pepep. Aren't you also on Jetnation?
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Post by RobR on Feb 9, 2017 13:08:11 GMT -5
Welcome aboard peppep
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Post by peppep on Feb 9, 2017 16:36:57 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum Pepep. Aren't you also on Jetnation? Yes I am. I am PepPep. Hear me roar. |
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Post by Lithfan on Feb 9, 2017 16:46:19 GMT -5
I am curious as to what others think of Fournette's fit in a West Coast offense -- everything I have read about our OC suggests he will bring West Coast concepts to us.
Personally I see Fournette as a downhill power back likely to excel in a power running scheme where he can follow a lead blocker through a hole and get to the second level of the defense. Based upon his running style, I am not sure he will be at his best in a west coast scheme which I always thought values quickness & finesse over power. Am I off base here -- if I am it wouldn't be the first time.
I like the guy as an elite RB prospect -- but is a west coast offense where is most likely to succeed?
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Post by peppep on Feb 9, 2017 17:03:15 GMT -5
I am curious as to what others think of Fournette's fit in a West Coast offense -- everything I have read about our OC suggests he will bring West Coast concepts to us. Personally I see Fournette as a downhill power back likely to excel in a power running scheme where he can follow a lead blocker through a hole and get to the second level of the defense. Based upon his running style, I am not sure he will be at his best in a west coast scheme which I always thought values quickness & finesse over power. Am I off base here -- if I am it wouldn't be the first time. I like the guy as an elite RB prospect -- but is a west coast offense where is most likely to succeed? I don't think you are off base at all. It's correct (IMO) to assume that a West Coast scheme is best suited for a RB who has great vision, elusiveness, good hands (ability to catch the ball in the backfield), great speed and quickness. But, to me, Fournette is an unique talent. I would not define him as a 'power back'. That just undervalues him completely. He has great vision, exceptional speed and he is an elite athlete. To me, he is the type of RB that can excel in any system. Like any RB, he just needs some good blocking. Put E.Elliott in a West Coast system and he will do great. Same thing with Adrian Peterson. Put Jamal Charles in power run scheme and he will run wild. I think once you get to a certain lever of talent, the system is not as influential on a RBs success. Blocking however is crucial. To me, the bigger question is can the Jets O-line provide good enough blocking for Fournette to be successful. I think they can. But it will require a healthy Mangold and Clady playing alongside Carpenter, Winters and a powerful run blocking RT (Qvale?). |
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