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Post by DDNYjets on Apr 18, 2019 21:19:26 GMT -5
Hahaha. From capital crimes to lack of character. Let me see how you would behave if you were accused of treason. Trump went easy on them. Never asserted privilege once. Mueller got taken to school. His obstruction arguments read like Acosta's diary. Seriously? When have I ever stated anything close to what you are stating? You and the rest of the base can gloat, but it’s an embarrassing day for the Office of the President. I dont care what you said. We were sold high crimes by the media and the former heads of the most powerful law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the world. That was the bar. The bar wasnt Trump is a meanie who is hard on his employees. Its embarrassing for our country that we may have been a banana republic in 2016-2017. Hopefully the Obama-era FBI, DOJ and intelligence officials are cleared by the Barr and OIG investigations.
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Post by bxjetfan on Apr 18, 2019 21:34:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 21:34:30 GMT -5
Seriously? When have I ever stated anything close to what you are stating? You and the rest of the base can gloat, but it’s an embarrassing day for the Office of the President. I dont care what you said. We were sold high crimes by the media and the former heads of the most powerful law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the world. That was the bar. The bar wasnt Trump is a meanie who is hard on his employees. Its embarrassing for our country that we may have been a banana republic in 2016-2017. Hopefully the Obama-era FBI, DOJ and intelligence officials are cleared by the Barr and OIG investigations. You can thank Mueller.
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Post by DDNYjets on Apr 18, 2019 21:35:19 GMT -5
Trump's legal team was masterful. Rudy just said they only answered questions regarding everything prior to Trump's inauguration. They told them to take them to court if they wanted information after that date.
Why?
Because they knew Mueller's team already had the answers to those questions and it was a perjury trap. Conversations with McGhan, Comey, Sessions, Christie, etc.
Bully the bully. Call their bluff.
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Post by DDNYjets on Apr 18, 2019 21:37:59 GMT -5
I dont care what you said. We were sold high crimes by the media and the former heads of the most powerful law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the world. That was the bar. The bar wasnt Trump is a meanie who is hard on his employees. Its embarrassing for our country that we may have been a banana republic in 2016-2017. Hopefully the Obama-era FBI, DOJ and intelligence officials are cleared by the Barr and OIG investigations. You can thank Mueller. Mueller should have stuck to Russia. If he was going to look at obstruction then he shouldnt have punted like he did. Actually, he should have recused himself from that because of his relationship with Comey. But the punting is even worse than the conflict of interest. It was not his job to exonerate. It is not any prosecutors job to exonerate. And it certainly is not the burden of the accused to exonerate themselves. If you have enough evidence to charge then you charge. Simple as that.
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Post by bxjetfan on Apr 18, 2019 21:46:31 GMT -5
I just saw an interview with Bill Binney, a 30 year NSA employee and whistleblower. He said someone submitted a FOIA for anything the NSA had with Seth Rich and Julian Assange. They wouldnt release it but it was 15 files or 32 pages.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 21:56:19 GMT -5
Mueller should have stuck to Russia. If he was going to look at obstruction then he shouldnt have punted like he did. Actually, he should have recused himself from that because of his relationship with Comey. But the punting is even worse than the conflict of interest. It was not his job to exonerate. It is not any prosecutors job to exonerate. And it certainly is not the burden of the accused to exonerate themselves. If you have enough evidence to charge then you charge. Simple as that. Mueller followed the law and respected the Oval Office, he did his job. You do not understand how federal law works, the AG just as the US Attorney have the right to refuse(not charge).
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Post by DDNYjets on Apr 18, 2019 22:04:55 GMT -5
Mueller should have stuck to Russia. If he was going to look at obstruction then he shouldnt have punted like he did. Actually, he should have recused himself from that because of his relationship with Comey. But the punting is even worse than the conflict of interest. It was not his job to exonerate. It is not any prosecutors job to exonerate. And it certainly is not the burden of the accused to exonerate themselves. If you have enough evidence to charge then you charge. Simple as that. Mueller followed the law and respected the Oval Office, he did his job. You do not understand how federal law works, the AG just as the US Attorney have the right to refuse(not charge). I understand prosecutor discretion very well. I think there is zero chance that is the case here. Not with Weissman and Hillary cronies running his operation. But if Mueller believed that a president cannot be indicted then he should have said so from the beginning and stuck to Russia. And not for nothing, how long has Mueller known that there was no collusion? Hopefully he gets asked that during his testimony.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 22:16:55 GMT -5
Mueller followed the law and respected the Oval Office, he did his job. You do not understand how federal law works, the AG just as the US Attorney have the right to refuse(not charge). I understand prosecutor discretion very well. I think there is zero chance that is the case here. Not with Weissman and Hillary cronies running his operation. But if Mueller believed that a president cannot be indicted then he should have said so from the beginning and stuck to Russia. And not for nothing, how long has Mueller known that there was no collusion? Hopefully he gets asked that during his testimony. Weren’t you bitching about Mueller and Rosenstein before today? They did their job and followed the law and the DOJ guidance with investigating and non-indictment of a sitting President. Its not not what you know Otis what you can prove in the court of law. Rosenstein is also the same person who signed off on the FISA warrants, so you want to lock him up too?
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Post by bxjetfan on Apr 18, 2019 22:29:48 GMT -5
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Post by Jets Things on Apr 18, 2019 22:46:55 GMT -5
Mueller should have stuck to Russia. If he was going to look at obstruction then he shouldnt have punted like he did. Actually, he should have recused himself from that because of his relationship with Comey. But the punting is even worse than the conflict of interest. It was not his job to exonerate. It is not any prosecutors job to exonerate. And it certainly is not the burden of the accused to exonerate themselves. If you have enough evidence to charge then you charge. Simple as that. Mueller followed the law and respected the Oval Office, he did his job. You do not understand how federal law works, the AG just as the US Attorney have the right to refuse(not charge). We know. Just as Holder and his "boy" Obama knew.
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Post by DDNYjets on Apr 18, 2019 23:01:42 GMT -5
I understand prosecutor discretion very well. I think there is zero chance that is the case here. Not with Weissman and Hillary cronies running his operation. But if Mueller believed that a president cannot be indicted then he should have said so from the beginning and stuck to Russia. And not for nothing, how long has Mueller known that there was no collusion? Hopefully he gets asked that during his testimony. Weren’t you bitching about Mueller and Rosenstein before today? They did their job and followed the law and the DOJ guidance with investigating and non-indictment of a sitting President. Its not not what you know Otis what you can prove in the court of law. Rosenstein is also the same person who signed off on the FISA warrants, so you want to lock him up too? No Collusion. No Obstruction. Thats the results. Thats what I know. If there is any evidence of Rosenstein acting nefariously (which I hope is not the case) then he should be investigated. I will accept the results of the OIG and Barr investigations. Black and white. 100%. No lingering delusions or pipe dreams. I hope their scope is laser focused. I also hope there are no perjury traps or people tried for things that they were already cleared for previously or things that happened decades ago. I would be a hypocrite if I cheered on banana republic tactics.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Apr 19, 2019 7:11:53 GMT -5
Good luck making the argument that the Chief Executive cannot fire his subordinates. Mueller is getting laughed at over his legal theories. As the coward said himself, for any reason or no reason at all. No one is making that argument, MacGann understood the ramifications if Trump fired Mueller. No no one with any legitimate legal background is making fun of this report. This report shows lack of character and integrity currently sitting in the Oval Office. This whole investigation was about Trump colluding with Russia to win the election. That was proven to be a total farce. As for obstruction of justice, many legal minds have said you can’t be found guilty of obstructing a crime you did not commit (and even on this charge their wasn’t enough evidence to convict him). It’s another huge win for Trump and another embarrassingly blatant lie by the Dims and the MSM. Check fuckin’ mate. Now, the real conspiracy (which anyone who isn’t a brainwashed PC lib can plainly see) - how the FBI and DOJ was weaponized by Obama and Hillary to stop and then bring down Trump - is going to be unmasked. Again, another win for us and loss for them.
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Post by Trades on Apr 19, 2019 7:30:03 GMT -5
That's not even close to what happened. I'd love to see how you would react against false accusations and treason threats. Hillary is a sore loser and made it all up and the media ran with it. Really not even close? He told McGann to fire Mueller they all ignored him. He asked for a few other things and people like Lewandosky were smart enough to ignore them as well. Hillary made it all up? I guess the courts will reverse the guilty pleas next. I was referring to the "this report confirmed the majority of what the press reported" part of your post. The majority of the press blathered on about treason and collusion for 2 years all saying they KNEW it happened. They lied/were wrong. They held this administration hostage for their first 2 years and should be held accountable.
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Post by Trades on Apr 19, 2019 7:39:32 GMT -5
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