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Post by Trades on Oct 2, 2017 13:58:09 GMT -5
He isn't my choice but I guess we could do a lot worse. His stats are pretty good. |
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Post by quantum on Oct 2, 2017 14:04:23 GMT -5
I know what will happen: we'll end up picking 11th. We then trade into the Top 3 by trading all our picks. Somehow, Macc includes the pick we're trying to get and we end up with no picks in the 2018 Draft.
Which is ok, because we always fuck it up anyways.
FML!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by shakin on Oct 2, 2017 14:23:57 GMT -5
if that's the case then i can map out a pretty reasonable scenario that has kizer under center for us in 2 years I wanna see this Jason Pollack. Do I have to take acid to follow along? take whatever you like it's pretty simple actually step 1: jets achieve disastrous mediocrity, winning just enough games to push them out of the top qb draft sweepstakes step 2: 1-15 cleveland drafts one of teh top qbs, making kizer expendable to them step 3: macc, rummaging through the bottom of the nfl qb laundry bin trades for kizer, as karma finally pays the nyj back for all the assrape trades they've done to cleveland over the years step 4: kizer is our qb |
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Post by DowNY on Oct 2, 2017 14:56:54 GMT -5
Meh, I'm not too sure about "getting better" & the top 10 part is debatable. I'd rather build with a new QB like Watson or Goff right now than have Cousins, but that's me. Let Cousins go to San Fran. Drafting a QB is the only way to go at this point. If we was doing this will Hackenberg instead of McCown like we should be doing, then maybe it would be different. I just need to see a mainstay resolution & that's by drafting a QB. What these 2 wins showed is good potential. We're not completely trash. We have a solid foundation to build on. Smart players. We have some keepers. Let's not go blow our cap load on signing someone like Cousins. I'd ratherhave Watson or Goff to but it's not an option. If we gave Cousins 5/150 and paid him 70 million his first year his cap hit going forward is 20 mil a year which is manageable. We could even keep Mo. If you dumped Mo in19' it saves 12 mil. That scenario doesn't prevent you from taking a project QB and if it looks like the guy pans out you can always trade Cousins. There is always a market for QBs, look at Osweiler and Glennon. Time will tell. I think a Jimmy Garrapolo signing if more likely than a Kirk Cousins but we'll see. |
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Post by DowNY on Oct 2, 2017 14:59:50 GMT -5
I wouldn't be against Cousins Guy is a proven 4,000 yard, 30 TD QB just entering the prime years of his career. If the Redskins are dumb enough to let him walk, we'd be stupid not to seriously consider him. You sign him and you still have enough cash in FA to land 2-3 mid-upper tier players coupled with a minimum of 8 draft picks. What if the Jets finish 4-12...sign Cousins, sign Allen Robinson, take a guy like Saquon Barkley at #5 and then still have 3 more picks in the Top 70 alone? Not a bad situation from where I'm standing I have no faith in us selecting an offensive playmaker in round 1. Maybe if Powell is let go (I doubt it happens), but doubt a RB is picked in round 1 is everything stays the same as far as Powell & now McGuire producing. Only way is if McGuire doesn't do much else this season & Powell slows up. |
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Post by willis on Oct 2, 2017 15:02:43 GMT -5
I say 6 & 10 or 7 & 9 if McCown continues to play. And if Wilkerson continues to under perform, they'll get rid of him next year before his guarantee kicks in, in March 2018. Watson went 12th, so the may be some kind of hope ... maybe.
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Post by bxjetfan on Oct 2, 2017 21:33:43 GMT -5
Cousins is looking pretty good.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2017 22:38:37 GMT -5
I wouldn't be against Cousins Guy is a proven 4,000 yard, 30 TD QB just entering the prime years of his career. If the Redskins are dumb enough to let him walk, we'd be stupid not to seriously consider him. You sign him and you still have enough cash in FA to land 2-3 mid-upper tier players coupled with a minimum of 8 draft picks. What if the Jets finish 4-12...sign Cousins, sign Allen Robinson, take a guy like Saquon Barkley at #5 and then still have 3 more picks in the Top 70 alone? Not a bad situation from where I'm standing McCown should be making one hell of an impression on Petty and Hack. The light is going to come on very soon for one of those two kids...If McCown keeps playing at this level, he's going to be intentionally chased hard out of the pocket, and maybe out of a game. I imagine Bowles is tugging their short hairs every moment. |
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Post by Trades on Oct 3, 2017 8:14:56 GMT -5
If we are drafting in the middle of the first I think you need to build the oline with the the first 3 picks and go for broke with someone Petty, Hack or if the cards land right get Cousins or someone else.
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Post by yankeejet22 on Oct 3, 2017 17:49:24 GMT -5
I think Cousins is in an ideal situation in Wash and with Gruden. However, I wouldn't want him with with a 150 mil contract, on a new team, different Offense, players, surroundings... sounds like an impossible situation for him to come into. Pass.
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Post by Trades on Oct 4, 2017 7:02:02 GMT -5
I think Cousins is in an ideal situation in Wash and with Gruden. However, I wouldn't want him with with a 150 mil contract, on a new team, different Offense, players, surroundings... sounds like an impossible situation for him to come into. Pass. I hate to say it but the rest of the Jets O is looking pretty good. I like the new coordinators game planning outside of the first game. WRs are holding on to the ball, have some speed and are fighting for yards, Powell and McGuire run with purpose, TE is much better than it has been in a very long time. If we put our picks and FA money into OLine to give the next QB a little protection I think Cousins could actually thrive here. I mean McCown is actually looking ok short of bone head latterals and holding the ball too long. That being said I think one of the most important stats in today's NFL with the weak OLines is how quickly a QB can make a good decision and throw the ball. It is one of Brady's strongest points. (of course when the defensive play calls are forwarded to your helmet that helps) So I looked at the link below and #1 is Carr with an average time to throw of 2.24 seconds. 2nd is McCown with a 2.4  I never would have guessed. Cousins is in the middle of the pack at 2.56. Biggest difference is McCown has 3 TDs and 3 ints while Cousins has 7 TDs and 1 int. If we could get that kind of efficiency at QB even with the other weapons we have on Offense while adding Enunwa and a better Oline I could see the team scoring a lot more often. I guess what I am saying is that I may have convinced myself that unless there is a kid coming out of college that we don't have to reach for that we legitimately think could be the guy for the next 15 years without any coddling then you break the bank in a front loaded contract for Cousins so the cap money is spent early while we have all that cash. nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throw |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 9:51:35 GMT -5
I think Cousins is in an ideal situation in Wash and with Gruden. However, I wouldn't want him with with a 150 mil contract, on a new team, different Offense, players, surroundings... sounds like an impossible situation for him to come into. Pass. I hate to say it but the rest of the Jets O is looking pretty good. I like the new coordinators game planning outside of the first game. WRs are holding on to the ball, have some speed and are fighting for yards, Powell and McGuire run with purpose, TE is much better than it has been in a very long time. If we put our picks and FA money into OLine to give the next QB a little protection I think Cousins could actually thrive here. I mean McCown is actually looking ok short of bone head latterals and holding the ball too long. That being said I think one of the most important stats in today's NFL with the weak OLines is how quickly a QB can make a good decision and throw the ball. It is one of Brady's strongest points. (of course when the defensive play calls are forwarded to your helmet that helps) So I looked at the link below and #1 is Carr with an average time to throw of 2.24 seconds. 2nd is McCown with a 2.4 I never would have guessed. Cousins is in the middle of the pack at 2.56. Biggest difference is McCown has 3 TDs and 3 ints while Cousins has 7 TDs and 1 int. If we could get that kind of efficiency at QB even with the other weapons we have on Offense while adding Enunwa and a better Oline I could see the team scoring a lot more often. I guess what I am saying is that I may have convinced myself that unless there is a kid coming out of college that we don't have to reach for that we legitimately think could be the guy for the next 15 years without any coddling then you break the bank in a front loaded contract for Cousins so the cap money is spent early while we have all that cash. nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throwWith Carr - he has to get a better mix of throws. Cooper is the hot guy wayyy to often; having to break tackle after tackle. It's like walking into those 20 foot pacific waves. Momentum is impossible |
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Post by Trades on Oct 4, 2017 10:02:55 GMT -5
I hate to say it but the rest of the Jets O is looking pretty good. I like the new coordinators game planning outside of the first game. WRs are holding on to the ball, have some speed and are fighting for yards, Powell and McGuire run with purpose, TE is much better than it has been in a very long time. If we put our picks and FA money into OLine to give the next QB a little protection I think Cousins could actually thrive here. I mean McCown is actually looking ok short of bone head latterals and holding the ball too long. That being said I think one of the most important stats in today's NFL with the weak OLines is how quickly a QB can make a good decision and throw the ball. It is one of Brady's strongest points. (of course when the defensive play calls are forwarded to your helmet that helps) So I looked at the link below and #1 is Carr with an average time to throw of 2.24 seconds. 2nd is McCown with a 2.4 I never would have guessed. Cousins is in the middle of the pack at 2.56. Biggest difference is McCown has 3 TDs and 3 ints while Cousins has 7 TDs and 1 int. If we could get that kind of efficiency at QB even with the other weapons we have on Offense while adding Enunwa and a better Oline I could see the team scoring a lot more often. I guess what I am saying is that I may have convinced myself that unless there is a kid coming out of college that we don't have to reach for that we legitimately think could be the guy for the next 15 years without any coddling then you break the bank in a front loaded contract for Cousins so the cap money is spent early while we have all that cash. nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throwWith Carr - he has to get a better mix of throws. Cooper is the hot guy wayyy to often; having to break tackle after tackle. It's like walking into those 20 foot pacific waves. Momentum is impossible Carr is out 2-6 weeks. Will be interesting to see how much of a drop off there is going to EJ Manuel. Is it the system, the supporting cast or is Carr that good. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Oct 4, 2017 10:06:52 GMT -5
Signing Cousins if he shakes free would be the right move so I know we won't do it. J E T S!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 11:25:15 GMT -5
Bowles would never allow a single guy, a Mark Sanchez, say, that would break the heart of his defense. They will acquire A-/B+ guys and get them ready for an extended cameo. No fccn way they would buy a guy, or buy "The Guy".
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