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Post by sadface on Apr 27, 2019 14:07:54 GMT -5
Fwiw, Cashman was PFF #4 rated ILB
LB BLAKE CASHMAN, MINNESOTA Cashman earned a 90.0-plus overall grade this past season and tested out as one of the most athletic linebackers in the class at the combine.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Apr 27, 2019 14:15:17 GMT -5
Fwiw, Cashman was PFF #4 rated ILB LB BLAKE CASHMAN, MINNESOTA Cashman earned a 90.0-plus overall grade this past season and tested out as one of the most athletic linebackers in the class at the combine. Maybe the jets will actually pick players they have needs at one day. But not with the fucking idiot in charge. I hate his guts.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Apr 27, 2019 14:19:43 GMT -5
You guys are seriously a bunch of miserable cunts. I hope Macc takes a fucking kicker now just to make you bitches cry more. 😂 Imagine the Jets actually ever had a FO that we could all relax and have faith in? History shows the jets are the dumbest fuck organization in the history of the NFL when it comes to the draft. They fucking suck at it so bad it’s not even funny. We all expect them to pick the worst players and they never disappoint. There’s a reason they are always picking in the top 5 or 10 ever single year. Cause they are clueless dumb ass yes men who should be working at a used car lot.
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Post by sadface on Apr 27, 2019 14:24:09 GMT -5
Fwiw, Cashman was PFF #4 rated ILB LB BLAKE CASHMAN, MINNESOTA Cashman earned a 90.0-plus overall grade this past season and tested out as one of the most athletic linebackers in the class at the combine. Maybe the jets will actually pick players they have needs at one day. But not with the fucking idiot in charge. I hate his guts. QW, polite, and chuma are all needs. What's the problem? Interior pass rusher, edge pass rusher, offensive line. Universally considered Jets big needs. You can't fill all your holes in one draft but they've obviously taken players that fit the dual description of need and value, at least with the first three picks. Although I can understand why some would say Chuma wasn't as much value but still a need. ILB and TE may not have been needs, but ultimately the TE is an attempt to add to both the OL and passing game and the ILB, well, maybe they consider Avery Williamson as a candidate for trade or release after this season. Besides, if they successfully trade Lee they will absolutely need an ILB behind AW and CJM
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Apr 27, 2019 14:32:02 GMT -5
Maybe the jets will actually pick players they have needs at one day. But not with the fucking idiot in charge. I hate his guts. QW, polite, and chuma are all needs. What's the problem? Interior pass rusher, edge pass rusher, offensive line. Universally considered Jets big needs. You can't fill all your holes in one draft but they've obviously taken players that fit the dual description of need and value, at least with the first three picks. Although I can understand why some would say Chuma wasn't as much value but still a need. ILB and TE may not have been needs, but ultimately the TE is an attempt to add to both the OL and passing game and the ILB, well, maybe they consider Avery Williamson as a candidate for trade or release after this season. Besides, if they successfully trade Lee they will absolutely need an ILB behind AW and CJM They don’t even need DT. They need OL and WR. And they took one OL and no WRs. I thought the priority was to surround Darnold with the tools he needs to develop and win? We have the exact same shitty WR core as last year except they added whatever his name is. Not good enough.
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Post by sadface on Apr 27, 2019 14:43:38 GMT -5
Completely agree about OL, disagree about receiver. No mid-round receiver will supplant enunwa, Robby, and Crowder. They make a fine group especially with Herndon and bell also catching passes. Really not worried about Darnolds passing targets.
However, keeping him on his feet is a project still incomplete. Osemele and Chuma are good additions. But I agree it's not nearly enough. Hopefully the defense is improved enough to the point that they will give Darnold either more possessions or better field position.
Also I disagree about not needing a DT. It's not about the need for a DT, it's about the need to create pressure. Henry and Leo did OK with that. QW projects far better than either of them. He's a top notch pocket collapser from the inside and, again, Polite is an effort to improve the pressure from the edge.
I really can't understand how anyone can be upset with the first three picks. I understand the last two but I love the Wesco pick because he's an amazing blocker which, again, compliments the OL
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Post by sadface on Apr 27, 2019 14:49:20 GMT -5
When we think about 'needs' it has to be less about positions of need and more about needed circumstances and needed talents/skills/tendencies. We needed pressure defenders. We got two. We needed nastiness in the blocking game. We got two, maybe three. We needed weapons for Darnold. We got two in Crowder and bell.
Yes I would love to find a C , CB, and another OG/OT but a dominant front seven makes the need for CB less severe, just like the acquisition of Osemele makes the need to immediately upgrade Harrison/Beachum slightly less severe. We weren't gonna magically pull 4 more early picks out of our asses. We had a fuckton of needs and a good bunch that helped fill those. There are still more needs just like every other team has. Do we really expect one draft to fill every need?
Having said that, I think the biggest problem this team has is the failure to address OL year after year. Hopefully we continue to add to that before week one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 14:54:55 GMT -5
When we think about 'needs' it has to be less about positions of need and more about needed circumstances and needed talents/skills/tendencies. We needed pressure defenders. We got two. We needed nastiness in the blocking game. We got two, maybe three. We needed weapons for Darnold. We got two in Crowder and bell. Yes I would love to find a C , CB, and another OG/OT but a dominant front seven makes the need for CB less severe, just like the acquisition of Osemele makes the need to immediately upgrade Harrison/Beachum slightly less severe. We weren't gonna magically pull 4 more early picks out of our asses. We had a fuckton of needs and a good bunch that helped fill those. There are still more needs just like every other team has. Do we really expect one draft to fill every need? Having said that, I think the biggest problem this team has is the failure to address OL year after year. Hopefully we continue to add to that before week one. I agree and when there are potential OL available the Jets should have taken a few and not a TE. I hope I’m wrong
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Post by bxjetfan on Apr 27, 2019 15:00:03 GMT -5
I dont know what Harrison graded out at but I read a post that he graded out ok. Sam was also the highest rated QB by QBR for the last 4 games. We signed Osmellme and just drafted an oline. Grab a tackle next year and see how Harrison plays. If he blows take a Center next year too. Its not like Mac didnt do shit this year for Sam. Im pumped to see what happens next year. I just wish we had kept Long. It wasnt his fault dickhead Bowles kept playing him with a broken hand and he would have been cheap insurance for one year.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Apr 27, 2019 15:13:58 GMT -5
Fwiw, Cashman was PFF #4 rated ILB LB BLAKE CASHMAN, MINNESOTA Cashman earned a 90.0-plus overall grade this past season and tested out as one of the most athletic linebackers in the class at the combine. Maybe the jets will actually pick players they have needs at one day. But not with the fucking idiot in charge. I hate his guts. You do realize we need backups and special teams players right? Especially if Lee is gone this year or next, they need an ILB. So far they've addressed getting a stud DL, an edge rusher, an OT, and a backup TE and ILB. Your boy Metcalf that you wanted in the first really dropped like a stone in the draft.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Apr 27, 2019 15:16:51 GMT -5
You guys are seriously a bunch of miserable cunts. I hope Macc takes a fucking kicker now just to make you bitches cry more. 😂 You want to see miserable cunts go over to Jetnation. They're mostly miserable cunts over there too. Im convinced many Jets fans are just miserable cunts that want to complain about anything. Im no Macc fan, but give the guy credit once in a while.
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Post by crossfire on Apr 27, 2019 15:21:54 GMT -5
Completely agree about OL, disagree about receiver. No mid-round receiver will supplant enunwa, Robby, and Crowder. They make a fine group especially with Herndon and bell also catching passes. Really not worried about Darnolds passing targets. However, keeping him on his feet is a project still incomplete. Osemele and Chuma are good additions. But I agree it's not nearly enough. Hopefully the defense is improved enough to the point that they will give Darnold either more possessions or better field position. Also I disagree about not needing a DT. It's not about the need for a DT, it's about the need to create pressure. Henry and Leo did OK with that. QW projects far better than either of them. He's a top notch pocket collapser from the inside and, again, Polite is an effort to improve the pressure from the edge. I really can't understand how anyone can be upset with the first three picks. I understand the last two but I love the Wesco pick because he's an amazing blocker which, again, compliments the OL This guy gets it.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Apr 27, 2019 15:22:42 GMT -5
Wesco. 15 of his 26 catches went for first down or touchdown. Sneaky redzone target. Will help Bell get into endzone on rushes with his blocking. Chuma. 10 pressures given up the last two seasons combined. That's really good. Familiarity with Darnold is a bonus. I like this draft because Mac is finally building from inside-out. We got both need and value at the top three picks. Yes I consider QW a need because he is a dominant pass rusher up the middle, and all teams need that. I'd like another OL though. Also appreciate his trade moves in the 4th. That said, can't be a good outlook for Jordan leggett. Or possibly Avery Williamson in a couple years if Cashman becomes a player. Cashman is far more athletic than Williamson and can easily be a Will backer in a more traditional 4-3 alignment, which is a future possibility for us as the defense evolves under Gregg over a couple of years. Leggett has to step up as either a blocker or a receiver. Although they may carry three or four TEs, so the real guys in danger are Tomlinson, Brown, and Sterling. Wesco sounds like a beast blocking. Bell has to be happy today.
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Post by sadface on Apr 27, 2019 15:24:30 GMT -5
Ok, I struggle to get behind yet another CB with drastic knee issues. This is the third late round CB with knee issues Mac has taken in three years. The other two? Still haven't played. Why? Why? Why? I understand CB is absolutely still a need but why a guy with no knees
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Apr 27, 2019 15:26:41 GMT -5
Completely agree about OL, disagree about receiver. No mid-round receiver will supplant enunwa, Robby, and Crowder. They make a fine group especially with Herndon and bell also catching passes. Really not worried about Darnolds passing targets. However, keeping him on his feet is a project still incomplete. Osemele and Chuma are good additions. But I agree it's not nearly enough. Hopefully the defense is improved enough to the point that they will give Darnold either more possessions or better field position. Also I disagree about not needing a DT. It's not about the need for a DT, it's about the need to create pressure. Henry and Leo did OK with that. QW projects far better than either of them. He's a top notch pocket collapser from the inside and, again, Polite is an effort to improve the pressure from the edge. I really can't understand how anyone can be upset with the first three picks. I understand the last two but I love the Wesco pick because he's an amazing blocker which, again, compliments the OL Totally agree on all counts. With no second rounder, there were few WRs available that would push the top 3 we already have. Some in the third round maybe, but you can argue the third rounders filled positions of need. But you're arguing with people that think Q and Robby suck, so you're not going to sway any minds!
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