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Post by Trades on Aug 5, 2019 22:11:37 GMT -5
Write a one page bill with background checks. Dont add in all the bullshit leftist pipe dreams that people arent going to vote for. One logical idea I heard floated today - by a Rep from Illinois - would be raising the purchase age of any 'semi' weapon to 21. The idea being so many of these mental issues and struggles stem from schooling, keeping that cohort from being able to legally purchase powerful weapons would likely yield real results. We don't trust sub-21s (let's be charitable) to do much of anything - seems crazy that we'd trust them with that sort of weapon. As far as things go, would be a relatively easy law to implement and police. FWIW - the Dayton shooter got off 41 shots inside 60 seconds. Are we also raising the age of eligibility for enlisting in the military?
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Post by adpz on Aug 5, 2019 22:22:15 GMT -5
Are we also raising the age of eligibility for enlisting in the military? Well, presumably the kids in the military are both trained and vetted, both formally and up-close-and-personal. The idea being floated is about ownership only - not usage (as in a professional situation).
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Post by adpz on Aug 5, 2019 22:24:38 GMT -5
BTW - turns out the very FIRST person the Dayton shooter shot - was his sister.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 5, 2019 22:58:01 GMT -5
Obama made Sleepy his gun control czar back in 2013 after Sandy Hook and he couldnt get anything done bc they tried to take over everything. So dont let these assholes sell you on them being able to do something. Write a one page bill with background checks. Dont add in all the bullshit leftist pipe dreams that people arent going to vote for. The Czar has zero power, it is amazing when you refer to Obama and his failures, they are all his, Trump’s failures are because of the Congress. That was literally my point. He couldnt get anything done bc they put stuff in the deal wouldnt get the votes. Which is why I am suggesting they make a simple and clean bill now.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 5, 2019 22:59:12 GMT -5
NRA has had their time and forgot to represent gun owners. The 2nd amendment does not mean it cannot be touched. It is all for not McConnell doesn't care. McConnell is a bought and sold twat. I've already posted my gun control ideas in this thread and I think they're sound. They'll never happen because politics. And I wouldnt trade him for anything bc of what he has done with the judiciary. Gotta take the good with the bad.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 6:37:43 GMT -5
One logical idea I heard floated today - by a Rep from Illinois - would be raising the purchase age of any 'semi' weapon to 21. The idea being so many of these mental issues and struggles stem from schooling, keeping that cohort from being able to legally purchase powerful weapons would likely yield real results. We don't trust sub-21s (let's be charitable) to do much of anything - seems crazy that we'd trust them with that sort of weapon. As far as things go, would be a relatively easy law to implement and police. FWIW - the Dayton shooter got off 41 shots inside 60 seconds. Are we also raising the age of eligibility for enlisting in the military? Military training for a military gun makes sense right.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 6:39:52 GMT -5
McConnell is a bought and sold twat. I've already posted my gun control ideas in this thread and I think they're sound. They'll never happen because politics. And I wouldnt trade him for anything bc of what he has done with the judiciary. Gotta take the good with the bad. Any Republican could have done what he did with the judge nominations.
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Post by Trades on Aug 6, 2019 7:39:05 GMT -5
Are we also raising the age of eligibility for enlisting in the military? Military training for a military gun makes sense right. Obviously. I was making the point that we would let someone who is 18 use a gun in the military while not letting them buy one until they are 21. Kind of like the you can go to war but can't have a beer in a bar argument.
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Post by Trades on Aug 6, 2019 7:39:59 GMT -5
And I wouldnt trade him for anything bc of what he has done with the judiciary. Gotta take the good with the bad. Any Republican could have done what he did with the judge nominations. But few if any other Republicans would have had the balls to go toe to toe with the Clinton machine and the media and win.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 8:49:46 GMT -5
Any Republican could have done what he did with the judge nominations. But few if any other Republicans would have had the balls to go toe to toe with the Clinton machine and the media and win. Thats why the GOP let a lifelong Democrat in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 9:02:06 GMT -5
Military training for a military gun makes sense right. Obviously. I was making the point that we would let someone who is 18 use a gun in the military while not letting them buy one until they are 21. Kind of like the you can go to war but can't have a beer in a bar argument. I understand your argument but it goes to what our current military issues to soldiers for war and it is the M-4, before that the M-16A etc. it is an effective weapon in times of war. I went thru Parris Island and never fired anything before I got there; I was nervous as hell. My firearms instructor laughed and said you have no bad habits listen to me and you will be fine ie training matters. I watched guys who claimed to be bug time hunters barely able to qualify because of their poor skills. Training matters and there is no reason for a AR-15 to be in the hands of any civilian.
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Post by Trades on Aug 6, 2019 10:12:05 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Aug 6, 2019 10:14:37 GMT -5
But few if any other Republicans would have had the balls to go toe to toe with the Clinton machine and the media and win. Thats why the GOP let a lifelong Democrat in. Just goes to show how far left the Democratic party has shifted. Reagan was a Dem for a big part of his life too.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 6, 2019 10:15:53 GMT -5
But few if any other Republicans would have had the balls to go toe to toe with the Clinton machine and the media and win. Thats why the GOP let a lifelong Democrat in. Thats right. He fought like a Democrat. Knew their playbook and used it against them.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 6, 2019 10:18:27 GMT -5
Thats why the GOP let a lifelong Democrat in. Just goes to show how far left the Democratic party has shifted. Reagan was a Dem for a big part of his life too. Reagan and Trump were Democrat back when the Democrats were for the working class and America-first. The poles have shifted. For those of us old enough to remember it is quite remarkable how far they have gone.
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