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Post by jetswin on Jan 12, 2015 9:25:34 GMT -5
WR - Randall Cobb S - Devin McCourty ILB - Rolando McClain QB - Ryan Mallett
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 12, 2015 10:49:48 GMT -5
These are the guys I would target:
James Carpenter, 25, G, Seattle Clint Boling, 25, G, Cincinnatti
Blaine Gabbert, 25, QB, San Francisco
Jerome Felton, 28, FB, Minnesota
Rahim Moore, 25, FS, Denver
Brandon Flowers, 28, CB, San Diego
Before anyone freaks out on the inclusion of Gabbert. He is young, has starting experience, and is the only free agent QB with upside. they should at least bring him in and kick the tires. The poor kid has had 5 HC and 4 different OCs in 4 years.
That said, my preference for 2015 is to trade for Chase Daniel.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 12, 2015 11:32:48 GMT -5
These are the guys I would target: James Carpenter, 25, G, Seattle Clint Boling, 25, G, Cincinnatti Blaine Gabbert, 25, QB, San Francisco Jerome Felton, 28, FB, Minnesota Rahim Moore, 25, FS, Denver Brandon Flowers, 28, CB, San Diego Before anyone freaks out on the inclusion of Gabbert. He is young, has starting experience, and is the only free agent QB with upside. they should at least bring him in and kick the tires. The poor kid has had 5 HC and 4 different OCs in 4 years. That said, my preference for 2015 is to trade for Chase Daniel. Gabbert looked bad running vanilla in the preseason. This game is just too fast for him. He's the most innacurate, ever. And Flowers has already shown that's useless if we're playing a lot of man. He's night and day in a tampa 2 vs the kind D we use to run. Moore, and Iupati or death.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 12, 2015 11:40:30 GMT -5
These are the guys I would target: James Carpenter, 25, G, Seattle Clint Boling, 25, G, Cincinnatti Blaine Gabbert, 25, QB, San Francisco Jerome Felton, 28, FB, Minnesota Rahim Moore, 25, FS, Denver Brandon Flowers, 28, CB, San Diego Before anyone freaks out on the inclusion of Gabbert. He is young, has starting experience, and is the only free agent QB with upside. they should at least bring him in and kick the tires. The poor kid has had 5 HC and 4 different OCs in 4 years. That said, my preference for 2015 is to trade for Chase Daniel. Gabbert looked bad running vanilla in the preseason. This game is just too fast for him. He's the most innacurate, ever. And Flowers has already shown that's useless if we're playing a lot of man. He's night and day in a tampa 2 vs the kind D we use to run. Moore, and Iupati or death. Flowers will fit in fine because I expect the Jets D to be along the lines of a Tampa 2, which is what you run when you've got a great D line. Iupati will cost more than he's worth. Boling and Carpenter are young and getting both is very possible. I only put Gabbert in because I think all of the FA QB's are garbage and thought he might still have some upside. What you saw in preseason was his fist work in his 4th offense in 4 years. But he is probably beyond repair at this point even though he is only 25.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 12, 2015 11:45:19 GMT -5
Gabbert looked bad running vanilla in the preseason. This game is just too fast for him. He's the most innacurate, ever. And Flowers has already shown that's useless if we're playing a lot of man. He's night and day in a tampa 2 vs the kind D we use to run. Moore, and Iupati or death. Flowers will fit in fine because I expect the Jets D to be along the lines of a Tampa 2, which is what you run when you've got a great D line. Iupati will cost more than he's worth. Boling and Carpenter are young and getting both is very possible. I only put Gabbert in because I think all of the FA QB's are garbage and thought he might still have some upside. What you saw in preseason was his fist work in his 4th offense in 4 years. But he is probably beyond repair at this point even though he is only 25. If the coach is Quinn, there's no way we're incorporating some Tampa 2 scheme. Seattle plays basically nothing but 1-on-1 man coverage. And Iupati is one of the very few players that could realistically hit the market and would be worthy of a longterm, big money deal. The guy is only 27 years old, is coming off 4 straight pro-bowl appearances and is a Top 5 player at his position that just so happens to be an area of weakness for this team.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 12, 2015 11:55:29 GMT -5
Flowers will fit in fine because I expect the Jets D to be along the lines of a Tampa 2, which is what you run when you've got a great D line. Iupati will cost more than he's worth. Boling and Carpenter are young and getting both is very possible. I only put Gabbert in because I think all of the FA QB's are garbage and thought he might still have some upside. What you saw in preseason was his fist work in his 4th offense in 4 years. But he is probably beyond repair at this point even though he is only 25. If the coach is Quinn, there's no way we're incorporating some Tampa 2 scheme. Seattle plays basically nothing but 1-on-1 man coverage. And Iupati is one of the very few players that could realistically hit the market and would be worthy of a longterm, big money deal. The guy is only 27 years old, is coming off 4 straight pro-bowl appearances and is a Top 5 player at his position that just so happens to be an area of weakness for this team. If Quinn is against playing the D that best fits his personnel, I hope the Jets don't hire him.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 12, 2015 11:58:42 GMT -5
If the coach is Quinn, there's no way we're incorporating some Tampa 2 scheme. Seattle plays basically nothing but 1-on-1 man coverage. And Iupati is one of the very few players that could realistically hit the market and would be worthy of a longterm, big money deal. The guy is only 27 years old, is coming off 4 straight pro-bowl appearances and is a Top 5 player at his position that just so happens to be an area of weakness for this team. If Quinn is against playing the D that best fits his personnel, I hope the Jets don't hire him. How exactly does running a Tampa 2 best fit our current personnel?
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 12, 2015 12:01:02 GMT -5
If the coach is Quinn, there's no way we're incorporating some Tampa 2 scheme. Seattle plays basically nothing but 1-on-1 man coverage. And Iupati is one of the very few players that could realistically hit the market and would be worthy of a longterm, big money deal. The guy is only 27 years old, is coming off 4 straight pro-bowl appearances and is a Top 5 player at his position that just so happens to be an area of weakness for this team. If Quinn is against playing the D that best fits his personnel, I hope the Jets don't hire him. That's why I think they target corners who fit what Quinn likes to do. Byron Maxwell played for Quinn, I think he is a much better option than Flowers.
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Post by rexneffect on Jan 12, 2015 12:06:30 GMT -5
I only put Gabbert in because I think all of the FA QB's are garbage and thought he might still have some upside. What you saw in preseason was his fist work in his 4th offense in 4 years. But he is probably beyond repair at this point even though he is only 25. At that standard I'd rather try to bring back Sanchez. At least the guy had a solid year developing under Chip Kelly with ~50% of the year as the starter.
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Post by TheMo on Jan 12, 2015 12:09:20 GMT -5
Flowers will fit in fine because I expect the Jets D to be along the lines of a Tampa 2, which is what you run when you've got a great D line. Iupati will cost more than he's worth. Boling and Carpenter are young and getting both is very possible. I only put Gabbert in because I think all of the FA QB's are garbage and thought he might still have some upside. What you saw in preseason was his fist work in his 4th offense in 4 years. But he is probably beyond repair at this point even though he is only 25. If the coach is Quinn, there's no way we're incorporating some Tampa 2 scheme. Seattle plays basically nothing but 1-on-1 man coverage. And Iupati is one of the very few players that could realistically hit the market and would be worthy of a longterm, big money deal. The guy is only 27 years old, is coming off 4 straight pro-bowl appearances and is a Top 5 player at his position that just so happens to be an area of weakness for this team. I thought Seattle plays a 3 deep zone. Isn't that the knock on Sherman when people get into the stupid who is a the best corner debate? That he only covers one side of the field? Honest question, I don't know enough about Seattle's defense.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 12, 2015 12:14:16 GMT -5
If Quinn is against playing the D that best fits his personnel, I hope the Jets don't hire him. How exactly does running a Tampa 2 best fit our current personnel? I would note that I feel the Jets are "better" suited to a Tampa 2 type D, not ideally suited. Their DB's more suited to zone than man coverage. And it is far easier to find CBs to play zone than man. Unless Quinn is bringing Sherman and Chancellor with him, he will not have the personnel to play Seattle's man coverage in the secondary. D-line is teams strength - while Tampa 2 d-lines are typically smaller than the Jets, quickness is the attribute you need in D lineman. Other than Snacks, the Jets have freakishly agile big men in Mo, Sheldon, and Coples. Harris walks. Davis becomes MLB. It is easier to find 4-3 OLB's than top shelf man coverage CB's If you think the Jets personnel, as currently set or even with a few changes, can run Seattle's D, IMO you are wildly over-rating the secondary. And don't forget Seattle had the #1 D before Quinn, and Carroll is a D coach. Who's to say Quinn "runs" any particular type of D. It's not like he's been a DC anywhere else.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 12, 2015 12:20:05 GMT -5
UT. I guess we're both wrong. Seattle plays mostly zone, derived from the Tampa 2.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 12, 2015 12:20:39 GMT -5
And Iupati is one of the very few players that could realistically hit the market and would be worthy of a longterm, big money deal. The guy is only 27 years old, is coming off 4 straight pro-bowl appearances and is a Top 5 player at his position that just so happens to be an area of weakness for this team. This. We have money to burn, and burning need to bring in some cock and balls on the oline. It's what do with all the money you save by relying on rookie contracts. Invest in smart veteran picks. There's usually only 1 or 2 every year when FA opens up. ...The rest in lightning in a bottle tomfoolery.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 12, 2015 12:20:49 GMT -5
How exactly does running a Tampa 2 best fit our current personnel? I would note that I feel the Jets are "better" suited to a Tampa 2 type D, not ideally suited. Their DB's more suited to zone than man coverage. And it is far easier to find CBs to play zone than man. Unless Quinn is bringing Sherman and Chancellor with him, he will not have the personnel to play Seattle's man coverage in the secondary. D-line is teams strength - while Tampa 2 d-lines are typically smaller than the Jets, quickness is the attribute you need in D lineman. Other than Snacks, the Jets have freakishly agile big men in Mo, Sheldon, and Coples. Harris walks. Davis becomes MLB. It is easier to find 4-3 OLB's than top shelf man coverage CB's If you think the Jets personnel, as currently set or even with a few changes, can run Seattle's D, IMO you are wildly over-rating the secondary. And don't forget Seattle had the #1 D before Quinn, and Carroll is a D coach. Who's to say Quinn "runs" any particular type of D. It's not like he's been a DC anywhere else. As it's already been said, Byron Maxwell is a FA who has played under Dan Quinn for the last 2 years and is seen as one of the better young corners in football. THAT'S the guy that I'm targeting. I have little doubt that we'll transition to more of a 4-3 if Quinn is the next coach. But he has literally no background pertaining to the Tampa 2. The Jets would still rely on a defense that is heavily predicated around man coverage concepts. And guys like Milliner and McDougle who are already on the roster are better suited as man corners.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 12, 2015 12:21:47 GMT -5
And Iupati is one of the very few players that could realistically hit the market and would be worthy of a longterm, big money deal. The guy is only 27 years old, is coming off 4 straight pro-bowl appearances and is a Top 5 player at his position that just so happens to be an area of weakness for this team. This. We have money to burn, and burning need to bring in some cock and balls on the oline. It's what do with all the money you save by relying on rookie contracts. Invest in smart veteran picks. There's usually only 1 or 2 every FA. The rest in lightning in a bottle tomfoolery. So long as the Jets get a 2d G. they need 2, not 1. An O line is only as good as its weakest link.
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