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Post by bxjetfan on Nov 21, 2019 21:30:26 GMT -5
You know who worked under her? Ciaramela, the whistleblower. You can't make this shit up. she worked for soros's org for 6 years before this gig fucking globalist fucking whore. She looks like the chick that would beat Aria's ass with a stick when she was training with the people that would put faces on in Game of Thrones.  images.app.goo.gl/vpLVu8x8uUcmMjN3A |
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Post by jay57 on Nov 21, 2019 21:34:34 GMT -5
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Post by bxjetfan on Nov 21, 2019 21:41:40 GMT -5
It's gonna be over if the FBI included in the FISA application a document that they themselves altered. |
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Post by Trades on Nov 21, 2019 21:49:32 GMT -5
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Post by bxjetfan on Nov 21, 2019 22:00:31 GMT -5
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Post by bxjetfan on Nov 22, 2019 13:33:43 GMT -5
Fiona Hill testified yesterday that she initially opposed giving the Ukraine military aid because she didn't think they had the ability to use the sophisticated weaponry. Here's the Javelin anti tank weapon in action. It's basically point and shoot. Lying cunt.
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Post by DDNYjets on Nov 22, 2019 13:38:33 GMT -5
Fiona Hill testified yesterday that she initially opposed giving the Ukraine military aid because she didn't think they had the ability to use the sophisticated weaponry. Here's the Javelin anti tank weapon in action. It's basically point and shoot. Lying cunt. Where were all these champions of Ukraine when they were being invaded by Russia? |
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Post by adpz on Nov 22, 2019 13:41:48 GMT -5
The very heart of this impeachment nonsense is itself nonsense.
Burisma deserved to be investigated 10 times over. No one on either side quibbles with that. And there's no whiff of a problem for a US President to insist on it in return for aid being released.
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Simply because Burisma had a goldbricking-crackhead board member who was related to the VP - suddenly Burisma was off limits to US policy?
Lol - that's why Burisma was paying Hunter in the first place. Protection money.
A Burisma investigation was good and proper as a US policy goal - regardless of the Bidens being entangled in it.
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Post by bxjetfan on Nov 22, 2019 14:08:17 GMT -5
The very heart of this impeachment nonsense is itself nonsense. Burisma deserved to be investigated 10 times over. No one on either side quibbles with that. And there's no whiff of a problem for a US President to insist on it in return for aid being released. BUT Simply because Burisma had a goldbricking-crackhead board member who was related to the VP - suddenly Burisma was off limits to US policy? Lol - that's why Burisma was paying Hunter in the first place. Protection money. A Burisma investigation was good and proper as a US policy goal - regardless of the Bidens being entangled in it. What do you mean nobody on either side quibbles with Burisma needs to be investigated? According to the Dims/MSM it's a conspiracy theory. Not trolling you I just don't understand why you'd say this. |
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Post by adpz on Nov 22, 2019 14:34:05 GMT -5
The very heart of this impeachment nonsense is itself nonsense. Burisma deserved to be investigated 10 times over. No one on either side quibbles with that. And there's no whiff of a problem for a US President to insist on it in return for aid being released. BUT Simply because Burisma had a goldbricking-crackhead board member who was related to the VP - suddenly Burisma was off limits to US policy? Lol - that's why Burisma was paying Hunter in the first place. Protection money. A Burisma investigation was good and proper as a US policy goal - regardless of the Bidens being entangled in it. What do you mean nobody on either side quibbles with Burisma needs to be investigated? According to the Dims/MSM it's a conspiracy theory. Not trolling you I just don't understand why you'd say this. Meaning, the Dims were for a Burisma investigation before they were against it - and a number of countries have taken action against Burisma (or their personnel) in the past and/or are contemplating doing so presently (including Ukraine). My point being - Burisma was not some unfairly-targeted mom-and-pop entity and was not targeted BECAUSE of the Biden connection. Burisma is, by any account, a dirty, fraudulent business and was since it's get-go as (what looks like) the money-laundering vehicle for the Ukraine oligarch who served as their Interior Minister or whatnot. It's the Bidens own problems that they got mixed up in this - not that the US would want the company investigated. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Nov 22, 2019 14:34:19 GMT -5
So Trump was on Fox today demanding a Senate trial. The Dims really are so boxed in. If they take it to an impeachment vote they risk losing the House and they will never impeach in the Senate. If they go the censure route the Dim leadership risk getting primaried and Trump gets to club them with it for the entire campaign.
Pelosi really fucked up. She should have killed this as soon as Trump released the transcript. It was obvious as soon as it came out that it wasn't what it was portrayed to be by the whistleblower.
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Post by adpz on Nov 22, 2019 14:43:14 GMT -5
So Trump was on Fox today demanding a Senate trial. The Dims really are so boxed in. If they take it to an impeachment vote they risk losing the House and they will never impeach in the Senate. If they go the censure route the Dim leadership risk getting primaried and Trump gets to club them with it for the entire campaign. Pelosi really fucked up. She should have killed this as soon as Trump released the transcript. It was obvious as soon as it came out that it wasn't what it was portrayed to be by the whistleblower. +100% It was much ado about nothing. Trump's mistake was to line up so hard on the 'no quid pro quo' when that was always going to be near-indefensible as an idea because the very basis of international relations is "this for that" and, espy, as that is how Trump (and lots of business people) operate - with leverage like this. Trump should have just admitted that he wanted Ukraine to do lots of looking - and that it's Hunter and Bidens problem if they're mixed up in it, not Trump's problem. Who was going to defend Hunter or Joe in that scenario? I would love to see this go to the Senate at this point. Too many dirty politicians and dumb-ass kids of theirs on the influence dole. Aside from the Bidens, it's long overdue to call these dirtbags to account. Double down on this with the IG report and we will have a taken a giant leap towards revealing the dimensions of the 'deep state' and swamp. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Nov 22, 2019 14:43:55 GMT -5
Dont forget is there is a Senate trial all of those Senators running for president have to be there and it takes away from their campaign trails.
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Post by bxjetfan on Nov 22, 2019 14:49:02 GMT -5
What do you mean nobody on either side quibbles with Burisma needs to be investigated? According to the Dims/MSM it's a conspiracy theory. Not trolling you I just don't understand why you'd say this. Meaning, the Dims were for a Burisma investigation before they were against it - and a number of countries have taken action against Burisma (or their personnel) in the past and/or are contemplating doing so presently (including Ukraine). My point being - Burisma was not some unfairly-targeted mom-and-pop entity and was not targeted BECAUSE of the Biden connection. Burisma is, by any account, a dirty, fraudulent business and was since it's get-go as (what looks like) the money-laundering vehicle for the Ukraine oligarch who served as their Interior Minister or whatnot. It's the Bidens own problems that they got mixed up in this - not that the US would want the company investigated. When were they ever for it? If anything we had no position/didn't give a shit until Burisma started pumping cash into Hunter Biden and everyone else. Here's an interesting read by John Solomon. johnsolomonreports.com/the-ukraine-scandal-timeline-democrats-and-their-media-allies-dont-want-america-to-see/ |
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Post by DDNYjets on Nov 22, 2019 14:49:04 GMT -5
So Trump was on Fox today demanding a Senate trial. The Dims really are so boxed in. If they take it to an impeachment vote they risk losing the House and they will never impeach in the Senate. If they go the censure route the Dim leadership risk getting primaried and Trump gets to club them with it for the entire campaign. Pelosi really fucked up. She should have killed this as soon as Trump released the transcript. It was obvious as soon as it came out that it wasn't what it was portrayed to be by the whistleblower. +100% It was much ado about nothing. Trump's mistake was to line up so hard on the 'no quid pro quo' when that was always going to be near-indefensible as an idea because the very basis of international relations is "this for that" and, espy, as that is how Trump (and lots of business people) operate - with leverage like this. Trump should have just admitted that he wanted Ukraine to do lots of looking - and that it's Hunter and Bidens problem if they're mixed up in it, not Trump's problem. Who was going to defend Hunter or Joe in that scenario? I would love to see this go to the Senate at this point. Too many dirty politicians and dumb-ass kids of theirs on the influence dole. Aside from the Bidens, it's long overdue to call these dirtbags to account. Double down on this with the IG report and we will have a taken a giant leap towards revealing the dimensions of the 'deep state' and swamp. True. The very nature of all of the aid we provide to countries is conditional. But they were trying to make this look personal for him. And there is no evidence of quid pro quo to help Trump personally. Witnesses have said they have no evidence and Zelensky himself said he was not pressured. Dont buy into the media narratives. Im old enough to remember when they were accusing him of doing nothing about what happened in 2016. And now when he tries to investigate it they try to impeach him. |
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