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Post by Warfish on Jan 18, 2020 20:24:45 GMT -5
Does not having a road here in VA named after Confederate PResident Jefferson Davis "erase history", or will people still know we had a Civil War even if that road is renamed? Do we need statues to remember the bad guys in a War? Should Berlin have a statue of Hitler, you know, so they can "remember"? Should we erect statues of rapists so we can "remember" rape is a thing? Have you seen any interviews with current college kids? They are barely literate..if not illiterate in American History. Its no accident. People 10 years younger than me have barely a grasp of it. Books are disappearing, the internetz is the library. When you control the internetz you control the history. You control the history, you control the thought. C'mon. You know this. That didn't answer any of what I asked. It was "old man shaked cane at cloud" at best, and probably warrants an "OK Boomer" reply and little else. Point of fact, I both hire "kids" and go to college myself still (yes, old man in college) and no mate, they're not, as a whole, barely literate. Not even close, they blow most old folks out of the water in my experience. But I'd like to hear your thoughts on the actual questions I asked you. Hitler statue, yay/nay? Rape statue, yay/nay? Is it possible to remember history without honoring the bad guy with a statue? Or, and lets be honest, do you not think the Confederates were really bad guys in the first place?
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Post by 32Green on Jan 18, 2020 21:03:41 GMT -5
Have you seen any interviews with current college kids? They are barely literate..if not illiterate in American History. Its no accident. People 10 years younger than me have barely a grasp of it. Books are disappearing, the internetz is the library. When you control the internetz you control the history. You control the history, you control the thought. C'mon. You know this. Or, and lets be honest, do you not think the Confederates were really bad guys in the first place? Ah. The gist of it. Carry on with your bad woke self. lol.
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Post by 32Green on Jan 18, 2020 21:08:10 GMT -5
Or, and lets be honest, do you not think the Confederates were really bad guys in the first place? Ah. The jist of it. Carry on with your bad woke self. lol. I remember now.. you posting, implying I was racist for liking Danny Woodhead when he was a Jet, lol. Silly of me to engage this type of trolling.
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Post by Jets Things on Jan 18, 2020 21:41:15 GMT -5
Have you seen any interviews with current college kids? They are barely literate..if not illiterate in American History. Its no accident. People 10 years younger than me have barely a grasp of it. Books are disappearing, the internetz is the library. When you control the internetz you control the history. You control the history, you control the thought. C'mon. You know this. That didn't answer any of what I asked. It was "old man shaked cane at cloud" at best, and probably warrants an "OK Boomer" reply and little else. Point of fact, I both hire "kids" and go to college myself still (yes, old man in college) and no mate, they're not, as a whole, barely literate. Not even close, they blow most old folks out of the water in my experience. But I'd like to hear your thoughts on the actual questions I asked you. Hitler statue, yay/nay? Rape statue, yay/nay? Is it possible to remember history without honoring the bad guy with a statue? Or, and lets be honest, do you not think the Confederates were really bad guys in the first place? The USA isn't Germany. Our history and mistakes are ours. We choose how to remember, recognize, or regret them as we do. Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis weren't in the same galaxy as Hitler. You're better than that idiotic comparison.
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Post by Warfish on Jan 18, 2020 22:28:13 GMT -5
Or, and lets be honest, do you not think the Confederates were really bad guys in the first place? Ah. The gist of it. Carry on with your bad woke self. lol. The fact you think one needs to be "woke" to hold the view that we don't need (and shouldn't want) Jefferson Davis statues or roads or schools says far more about your belief system than mine, mate.
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Post by Pure Rock Fury on Jan 18, 2020 22:39:24 GMT -5
The Confederate States was the enemy of the U.S. There should be no statues or such honoring them on any public land. Private land, do whatever the fuck you want.
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Post by Jets Things on Jan 18, 2020 22:45:12 GMT -5
The Confederate States was the enemy of the U.S. There should be no statues or such honoring them on any public land. Private land, do whatever the fuck you want. Ask yourself why Poland keeps Auschwitz around. That's why there are confederate statues and memorials.
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Post by Jets Things on Jan 18, 2020 22:57:36 GMT -5
Warfish and Pure Rock Fury
Got nothing? Can't say I'm surprised.
America dumb, not America great!
Probably voting for Bernie or Elizabeth. Good luck with that.
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Post by Pure Rock Fury on Jan 18, 2020 23:01:02 GMT -5
The Confederate States was the enemy of the U.S. There should be no statues or such honoring them on any public land. Private land, do whatever the fuck you want. Ask yourself why Poland keeps Auschwitz around. That's why there are confederate statues and memorials. Auschwitz is an actual location of an astrocity. The statues are after the fact honoring of an enemy. Not saying to erase history, just don't honor the enemy.
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Post by 32Green on Jan 18, 2020 23:04:06 GMT -5
Ask yourself why Poland keeps Auschwitz around. That's why there are confederate statues and memorials. Auschwitz is an actual location of an astrocity. The statues are after the fact honoring of an enemy. Not saying to erase history, just don't honor the enemy. Gold. Warfist with bad spelling.
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Post by 32Green on Jan 18, 2020 23:07:34 GMT -5
Ah. The gist of it. Carry on with your bad woke self. lol. The fact you think one needs to be "woke" to hold the view that we don't need (and shouldn't want) Jefferson Davis statues or roads or schools says far more about your belief system than mine, mate. Lolz, you win dude. I'm a racist. The Woodhead thing....you caught me then. Dont know why I continued the charade. Heil Hitler and all that. Where the white women at. Etc. Good grief.
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Post by Jets Things on Jan 18, 2020 23:07:39 GMT -5
Ask yourself why Poland keeps Auschwitz around. That's why there are confederate statues and memorials. Auschwitz is an actual location of an astrocity. The statues are after the fact honoring of an enemy. Not saying to erase history, just don't honor the enemy. Is every Civil War battlefield not a site of atrocity, according to your definitions?
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Post by Pure Rock Fury on Jan 18, 2020 23:09:39 GMT -5
I'm here saying not to honor enemies of the United States of America, and I'm the one that is saying America is not great. O. k
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Post by 32Green on Jan 18, 2020 23:12:02 GMT -5
I'm here saying not to honor enemies of the United States of America, and I'm the one that is saying America is not great. O. k Warfists worst wingman...ever.
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Post by Pure Rock Fury on Jan 18, 2020 23:12:04 GMT -5
Auschwitz is an actual location of an astrocity. The statues are after the fact honoring of an enemy. Not saying to erase history, just don't honor the enemy. Is every Civil War battlefield not a site of atrocity, according to your definitions? And I have no problems with anything explaining the events that occurred there.
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