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Post by Trades on Jun 9, 2020 7:29:29 GMT -5
I’ve read about this. It actually does fuck up people’s lives. It’s crazy. They can't afford the taxes on anything. Same with big game show prizes! It's almost like the "free CD's for a penny!" Then you're obligated to buy 100 at 10% over mkt price. Plus shipping. For your convenience and all. Have heard tons of stories about ppl getting straight fucked for winning cars and especially stuff like "cash" and trips. If you win the lottery you can afford the taxes. The problem is that people that win the lottery were typically poor before and have no idea how to manage money. $1 million seems endless to someone who has no money so they spend and buy shit for friends and family and then turn around and have nothing. I hate government intervention but if the state really wanted to do something to help people the lottery winners should have to take a class on personal finance or hire an accountant before getting their winnings. I mean they are the ones giving the money, a little guidance might help. Kind of like the rookie symposium for NFL players. |
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Post by Trades on Jun 9, 2020 7:30:17 GMT -5
get the fuck out of here with this shit now suddenly he has a "twin" who gets his fucking name wrong false fucking flag, and fuck you for the oncoming "crazy conspiracy" blah blahs ps his fucking family today calls on the UN to help dismantle the PDs in the US? fuckouttaherewiththisshit another planned bullshit crisis, just like the fucking plandemic Not a conspiracy guy but this really is out of nowhere. |
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Post by Raoul Duke on Jun 9, 2020 7:31:56 GMT -5
get the fuck out of here with this shit now suddenly he has a "twin" who gets his fucking name wrong false fucking flag, and fuck you for the oncoming "crazy conspiracy" blah blahs ps his fucking family today calls on the UN to help dismantle the PDs in the US? fuckouttaherewiththisshit another planned bullshit crisis, just like the fucking plandemic Not a conspiracy guy but this really is out of nowhere. When i get pissed at my kid I call him by my brothers name sometimes. No biggie IMO. |
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Post by Touchable on Jun 9, 2020 7:47:18 GMT -5
get the fuck out of here with this shit now suddenly he has a "twin" who gets his fucking name wrong false fucking flag, and fuck you for the oncoming "crazy conspiracy" blah blahs ps his fucking family today calls on the UN to help dismantle the PDs in the US? fuckouttaherewiththisshit another planned bullshit crisis, just like the fucking plandemic They’re saying that’s his brother? That’s Stephen Jackson, the shooty hoops player. |
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Post by Raoul Duke on Jun 9, 2020 7:49:47 GMT -5
get the fuck out of here with this shit now suddenly he has a "twin" who gets his fucking name wrong false fucking flag, and fuck you for the oncoming "crazy conspiracy" blah blahs ps his fucking family today calls on the UN to help dismantle the PDs in the US? fuckouttaherewiththisshit another planned bullshit crisis, just like the fucking plandemic They’re saying that’s his brother? That’s Stephen Jackson, the shooty hoops player. LOL |
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Post by Trades on Jun 9, 2020 8:04:22 GMT -5
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Post by shakin on Jun 9, 2020 9:31:59 GMT -5
get the fuck out of here with this shit now suddenly he has a "twin" who gets his fucking name wrong false fucking flag, and fuck you for the oncoming "crazy conspiracy" blah blahs ps his fucking family today calls on the UN to help dismantle the PDs in the US? fuckouttaherewiththisshit another planned bullshit crisis, just like the fucking plandemic They’re saying that’s his brother? That’s Stephen Jackson, the shooty hoops player. so the nba is in on it!!! it would be so much easier if they all didn't look al..... you know, the thing |
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Post by Trades on Jun 9, 2020 9:37:15 GMT -5
My entire life I have seen civil rights being a gigantic issue, MLK's murder is still something I remember vividly. I remember riots as a kid and I remember racial tensions as a kid. I was an athlete so for the most part I got along with everyone however there was plenty of hidden anger in my little universe. After 60 years it would be naive of me to think that this anger is misplaced, life has not been fair for many. I grew up fortunate, and fortunately took advantage of it for the most part. I know programs in the past decades to help disadvantaged imrpove their lot have mostly failed, but I think that only stresses the need to do something that works now. We know there are people out there that hate us, and by us I mean all Americans, the least racist time i can remember was after 911, when America truly had no color. WE cannot hate ourselves, we will be ruined, and I feel a slippery slope right now tht could easily lead to ruination. Early this week, Monday perhaps the days all run into one with this lockdown, CNBC interviewed Ken Frazier, CEO of Merck. The man was inspired and inspiring, he explained that he was fortunate enough to be part of some program in Philly as kid that bused him to a better school. He took advantage and look at him now, he is a black man btw. Anyway he was stressing the need for corporate America to do more for minorities, to help them get the chance they are not born into. I know it sounds like affirmative action, which imho has failed historically, but in a more aware environment why would this not work? Any minorities I've worked with in my career are just co-workers, do the job as well or better than anyone else, more need that chance. He said it starts with education and I agree. We need teachers in lesser school districts to stop sleepwalking their way to a pension. If the inner city kids feel inspired by their teachers they will excel, it only makes sense. Education is color blind, brains are color blind. If money is to be spent, start in schools, improve the facilities, improve the technology, give the cities what wealthy parents can give their kids, money will be spent let's just not piss it away as has been the case. As to the cops, imho there are assholes in all walks of life, so there are bound to be some on the job. That doesn't change the fact that for the most part they do a thankless job putting their lives on the line in a respectful manner. One of my neighbors is a young cop and he said he can't find anyone defending the cop who killed Floyd. i said to him I felt NY had better training for their force and more up to date on whatever holds they use, as obviously a knee to the neck is not a good idea, he just sort of nodded to that but offered no opinion so I could be wrong. Bottom line iseveryone is outraged by this, and it's all exasperated by the freaking rona, the US is a powder keg right now, and bothe sides of the aisle better sort their shit out and get together bringing this country together. Not saying you were saying this just fits with giving more money to education not fixing the issues. Corey A. DeAngelis @deangeliscorey · 22h Them: "We have been defunding education for years!" Me: "Real education spending has increased by 280% since 1960" Them: "YoU fOrGoT iNfLAtiOn!" Me: " 'Real' means inflation-adjusted" Them: Corey A. DeAngelis @deangeliscorey · 22h Inflation-adjusted education spending per student: 1950: $2,784 1960: $4,060 1970: $6,403 1980: $8,125 1990: $11,604 2000: $12,849 2010: $15,232 2017: $15,424 Cato Institute Retweeted Corey A. DeAngelis @deangeliscorey Inflation-adjusted education spending per pupil has increased by 280% since 1960. 1960: $4,060 2017: $15,424 Data here nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d19/tables/dt19_236.55.asp?current=yes |
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 9, 2020 10:00:33 GMT -5
Interesting article about Camden NJ who defunded police. But I think "defunded" is a horrible term. More like scrub it and "start from scratch". Is it a good move? Time will tell. There could be plusses and minuses. This is just one city and people need to be careful with causation. But I'm willing to at least consider it. www.citylab.com/equity/2018/01/what-happened-to-crime-in-camden/549542/ |
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Post by Trades on Jun 9, 2020 11:09:58 GMT -5
Interesting article about Camden NJ who defunded police. But I think "defunded" is a horrible term. More like scrub it and "start from scratch". Is it a good move? Time will tell. There could be plusses and minuses. This is just one city and people need to be careful with causation. But I'm willing to at least consider it. www.citylab.com/equity/2018/01/what-happened-to-crime-in-camden/549542/Interesting but if you read through the comments the conclusions are questionable at best. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 9, 2020 11:27:16 GMT -5
Interesting article about Camden NJ who defunded police. But I think "defunded" is a horrible term. More like scrub it and "start from scratch". Is it a good move? Time will tell. There could be plusses and minuses. This is just one city and people need to be careful with causation. But I'm willing to at least consider it. www.citylab.com/equity/2018/01/what-happened-to-crime-in-camden/549542/Interesting but if you read through the comments the conclusions are questionable at best. Yeah which is why I mentioned causation. I just think starting from scratch in SOME cases bears looking into. And that doesn’t mean eliminating police. |
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Post by Trades on Jun 9, 2020 12:07:27 GMT -5
Interesting but if you read through the comments the conclusions are questionable at best. Yeah which is why I mentioned causation. I just think starting from scratch in SOME cases bears looking into. And that doesn’t mean eliminating police. I think the more important thing in the article is that jobs make people part of a community. Police renewing the Protect and Serve concept would be great. End the war on drugs. Etc but I think holding Camden up as this virtuous city is disingenuous. |
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Post by 32Green on Jun 9, 2020 12:49:21 GMT -5
Yeah which is why I mentioned causation. I just think starting from scratch in SOME cases bears looking into. And that doesn’t mean eliminating police. I think the more important thing in the article is that jobs make people part of a community. Police renewing the Protect and Serve concept would be great. End the war on drugs. Etc but I think holding Camden up as this virtuous city is disingenuous. I can only speak from my experience; Training is always good, teaching cops how to communicate better is a must. I took a course called "Verbal Judo" that was very effective in teaching de-escalation. And, effective supervision is important. In the heat of the moment, cops can be their own worst enemies, a Supervisor on the scene of the Floyd incident changes everything, imho...but from what I saw, he would have killed someone else eventually anyway. Not being privvy to his record I cant say they had enough info to know he had that in him. But defunding the whole dept. because of this? Its punitive, juvenile, irrational... Institute change in leadership, supervision and tighten up the background investigations. Get real community leaders involved, not the self-serving ones that have been betraying the very people whose interests they purported to represent as they lined their pockets. Now, the other side of the coin is the recurring cycle of dysfunction, dependence and victimhood being maintained by politicians and racial arsonists who are vested in its continuing. That is why you hear little from Chicago/Baltimore/Detroit/NY politicians about the community members victimizing eachother at an alarming rate, the single-parent homes, multi-generations dependent on the government for housing and food...resulting in un-socialized angry kids sent to schools unprepared (and not allowed) to deal with them in an educational setting. These kids end up on the streets. Only when they die by hands of the police...do you hear about them. I know, because I saw it first hand and it changed my view on politics. None of the politicians or virtue-signaling social justice warriors give two sh*ts about these kids until the police become involved. When you are not even allowed to discuss the issues in the previous paragraph without being called a racist...there wlll always be conflict with LE no matter how much training and de-balling you perform on the various departments. People of color who acknowledge this are ignored by the media (except Fox news), drowned out by the cancel culture and demonized by those whose interests they threaten. This is all much more complicated than people are willing to admit and the real truth is unpalatable to many. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jun 9, 2020 15:23:17 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Jun 9, 2020 15:36:00 GMT -5
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