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Post by RobR on Sept 29, 2021 22:42:51 GMT -5
Masks are not 100% but they do prevent a portion of mouth breathers shit breath infected spit particles from going in to the air and infecting others. While not 100%, they are helpful at reducing the amount of shit in the air. They are also effective in reducing the amount of shit you breathe in. Not 100%, but at least helpful. The virus does not travel in the air by itself it is attached to spit et al which the masks will stop some of that so the virus will go thru a mask because it’s small is inaccurate. Vaccines work that’s why the majority of people who are infected are unvaccinated. That is totally false. Most of the people getting it these days are vaxed people with "break through" cases. Again 95% of Harvard is vaxed but they had to go 100% online because of so many cases. Israel is 85+% vaxed, many with a 3rd dose and cases keep going up. If you do get it I would look at the numbers of the side effects when it comes to people with natural immunity. Since you've already had it and have natural immunity from Covid hopefully you can provide your employment an active antibodies test.....because that would be following the science. Maybe a @jetsworks and @apdz could chime in. The fact that the government gives a rats ass about science and natural immunity sends up a giant red flag. |
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Post by Trades on Sept 30, 2021 7:27:11 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Sept 30, 2021 10:10:15 GMT -5
That is totally false. Most of the people getting it these days are vaxed people with "break through" cases. Again 95% of Harvard is vaxed but they had to go 100% online because of so many cases. Israel is 85+% vaxed, many with a 3rd dose and cases keep going up. If you do get it I would look at the numbers of the side effects when it comes to people with natural immunity. Since you've already had it and have natural immunity from Covid hopefully you can provide your employment an active antibodies test.....because that would be following the science. Maybe a @jetsworks and @apdz could chime in. The fact that the government gives a rats ass about science and natural immunity sends up a giant red flag. I wrote a 4 page document pointing out all of the research with links regarding natural immunity including the one study the company was pointing to to discount natural immunity because they cherry picked one line out of it that supported their case. 2 weeks later I got a form letter stating they are "following the science and trying to protect their employees and the community". It is all a bunch of political bullshit. This morning I went and got the antibody test and then got the jab. If I am still alive in a month I will go get another antibody test to see if there is any difference good or bad because I actually do believe in research and data. |
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Post by dvl7 on Sept 30, 2021 11:38:31 GMT -5
If you do get it I would look at the numbers of the side effects when it comes to people with natural immunity. Since you've already had it and have natural immunity from Covid hopefully you can provide your employment an active antibodies test.....because that would be following the science. Maybe a @jetsworks and @apdz could chime in. The fact that the government gives a rats ass about science and natural immunity sends up a giant red flag. I wrote a 4 page document pointing out all of the research with links regarding natural immunity including the one study the company was pointing to to discount natural immunity because they cherry picked one line out of it that supported their case. 2 weeks later I got a form letter stating they are "following the science and trying to protect their employees and the community". It is all a bunch of political bullshit. This morning I went and got the antibody test and then got the jab. If I am still alive in a month I will go get another antibody test to see if there is any difference good or bad because I actually do believe in research and data. Good news is if you die, you don't have to work anymore! |
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Post by vonrotten on Sept 30, 2021 14:59:47 GMT -5
I wrote a 4 page document pointing out all of the research with links regarding natural immunity including the one study the company was pointing to to discount natural immunity because they cherry picked one line out of it that supported their case. 2 weeks later I got a form letter stating they are "following the science and trying to protect their employees and the community". It is all a bunch of political bullshit. This morning I went and got the antibody test and then got the jab. If I am still alive in a month I will go get another antibody test to see if there is any difference good or bad because I actually do believe in research and data. Good news is if you die, you don't have to work anymore! Or watch the Jets! |
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Post by stlouiejetfan on Sept 30, 2021 21:05:59 GMT -5
Good news is if you die, you don't have to work anymore! Or watch the Jets! Unless he ends up in hell. Pretty sure the jets are on 24/7 down there. |
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Post by Trades on Oct 1, 2021 7:42:53 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Oct 1, 2021 9:20:15 GMT -5
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Post by bxjetfan on Oct 1, 2021 9:22:42 GMT -5
N95 and respirators aside, they don't protect you. They don't fully cover your mouth and nose, gaps on the side, and the virus is smaller than what the masks will protect against. And the story change between "masks protect you" and "masks protect others" - so which is it? And if you're vaccinated you still have to wear masks. SO either the vaccines don't work, or the masks are just theater. Which is it? Masks are not 100% but they do prevent a portion of mouth breathers shit breath infected spit particles from going in to the air and infecting others. While not 100%, they are helpful at reducing the amount of shit in the air. They are also effective in reducing the amount of shit you breathe in. Not 100%, but at least helpful. The virus does not travel in the air by itself it is attached to spit et al which the masks will stop some of that so the virus will go thru a mask because it’s small is inaccurate. Vaccines work that’s why the majority of people who are infected are unvaccinated. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Oct 1, 2021 14:06:57 GMT -5
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Post by Big L on Oct 1, 2021 14:37:30 GMT -5
Masks are not 100% but they do prevent a portion of mouth breathers shit breath infected spit particles from going in to the air and infecting others. While not 100%, they are helpful at reducing the amount of shit in the air. They are also effective in reducing the amount of shit you breathe in. Not 100%, but at least helpful. The virus does not travel in the air by itself it is attached to spit et al which the masks will stop some of that so the virus will go thru a mask because it’s small is inaccurate. Vaccines work that’s why the majority of people who are infected are unvaccinated. From the summary- This report has been published to continue to share the detailed variant surveillance analyses which contribute to the variant risk assessments and designation of new variants of concern (VOCs) and variants under investigation (VUIs). The specialist technical briefings contain early data and analysis on emerging variants and findings have a high level of uncertainty. A separate report is published covering surveillance data on all other VOCs and VUIs. In summary: • an assessment of Delta diversity, including mutations and designated sub- lineages, is provided • there are 4 current VOCs and 8 VUIs (Table 1) • there are no new VOCs or VUIs since the last briefing in the UK classification. • there has been an increase in secondary attack rates for Delta in household contacts but not non-household contacts • 2 doses of the vaccine remain highly effective, with 60 to 85% effectiveness against infection, 90 to 99% effectiveness against hospitalisation, 90 to 95% against mortality and 65 to 99% against symptomatic disease All risk assessments are published separately here, except for Gamma, which was published within Technical Briefing 7 and Alpha within Technical Briefing 9. As Delta is the dominant variant in the UK, epidemiological and re-infection data in the weekly surveillance report is also relevant. |
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Post by Trades on Oct 1, 2021 14:50:30 GMT -5
Just got my antibody test results (pre-vax)
Reference Range: Negative<0.8 U/mL so they consider anything over 0.8 U/mL positive for having antibodies.
For anecdotal comparison:
Someone I know that was vaxed and got the antibody test got a 3.6
My daughter who had covid at the same time I did and hasn't been Vaxed got a 177.2.
I got a 611.7
but somehow I had to get the vex to keep my job. Follow the fucking science!
I will also add that if you go to the Red Cross site it says they want people with natural immunity to donate plasma so they can make monoclonal antibodies to "help save others". If the vax is so fucking great why aren't they bleeding them for their plasma? Science again?
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Post by Jetworks on Oct 1, 2021 20:30:51 GMT -5
Just got my antibody test results (pre-vax) Reference Range: Negative<0.8 U/mL so they consider anything over 0.8 U/mL positive for having antibodies. For anecdotal comparison: Someone I know that was vaxed and got the antibody test got a 3.6 My daughter who had covid at the same time I did and hasn't been Vaxed got a 177.2. I got a 611.7but somehow I had to get the vex to keep my job. Follow the fucking science! I will also add that if you go to the Red Cross site it says they want people with natural immunity to donate plasma so they can make monoclonal antibodies to "help save others". If the vax is so fucking great why aren't they bleeding them for their plasma? Science again? They're just checking for IgM? |
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Post by RobR on Oct 1, 2021 21:08:49 GMT -5
Just got my antibody test results (pre-vax) Reference Range: Negative<0.8 U/mL so they consider anything over 0.8 U/mL positive for having antibodies. For anecdotal comparison: Someone I know that was vaxed and got the antibody test got a 3.6 My daughter who had covid at the same time I did and hasn't been Vaxed got a 177.2. I got a 611.7but somehow I had to get the vex to keep my job. Follow the fucking science! I will also add that if you go to the Red Cross site it says they want people with natural immunity to donate plasma so they can make monoclonal antibodies to "help save others". If the vax is so fucking great why aren't they bleeding them for their plasma? Science again? That sucks and is completely unethical. If you don't mind me asking what vax did you choose? |
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Post by Jets Things on Oct 1, 2021 22:50:10 GMT -5
Just got my antibody test results (pre-vax) Reference Range: Negative<0.8 U/mL so they consider anything over 0.8 U/mL positive for having antibodies. For anecdotal comparison: Someone I know that was vaxed and got the antibody test got a 3.6 My daughter who had covid at the same time I did and hasn't been Vaxed got a 177.2. I got a 611.7but somehow I had to get the vex to keep my job. Follow the fucking science! I will also add that if you go to the Red Cross site it says they want people with natural immunity to donate plasma so they can make monoclonal antibodies to "help save others". If the vax is so fucking great why aren't they bleeding them for their plasma? Science again? That sucks and is completely unethical. If you don't mind me asking what vax did you choose? I think he said Moderna. |
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