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Post by Trades on Oct 4, 2023 8:15:13 GMT -5
Key point; mom is being interviewed, with no mention of dad. Also, as much as I respect and agree with her on punishment needed here, the option of him being locked up to teach him a lesson is not a good one; it'll only make things worse unfortunately. No easy answers. ah sorry...the answer is incarceration...the lefts attempt to depopulate prisons is why crime all over is out of control... Wish there was another way because I agree with Jetworks that prison is not rehabilitation. The only other idea for people that aren't fully gone would be an option to join the military and get their shit together. I think this "kid" is too far gone. The mother's time was years ago and she missed that opportunity. I also agree that if he had a father (she was married before spawning) and the father was a good man there is a much better chance this kid would have turned out better. Water under the bridge now. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Oct 4, 2023 9:29:05 GMT -5
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Post by Jetworks on Oct 4, 2023 10:51:06 GMT -5
Key point; mom is being interviewed, with no mention of dad. Also, as much as I respect and agree with her on punishment needed here, the option of him being locked up to teach him a lesson is not a good one; it'll only make things worse unfortunately. No easy answers. ah sorry... the answer is incarceration...the lefts attempt to depopulate prisons is why crime all over is out of control... As it stands now? Wholly incorrect. It wasn't a good option when I was turning keys, it's even worse now. Trades is on to something with PURPOSEFUL punishment/incarceration, then you might see the chance that the light goes on for some. It's like dog training; you don't just call the dog by name, you have to attach a command to it otherwise the dog just looks at you like WTF and keeps doing what it's doing in between pauses. |
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Post by tkasper01 on Oct 4, 2023 11:37:10 GMT -5
ah sorry...the answer is incarceration...the lefts attempt to depopulate prisons is why crime all over is out of control... Wish there was another way because I agree with Jetworks that prison is not rehabilitation. The only other idea for people that aren't fully gone would be an option to join the military and get their shit together. I think this "kid" is too far gone. The mother's time was years ago and she missed that opportunity. I also agree that if he had a father (she was married before spawning) and the father was a good man there is a much better chance this kid would have turned out better. Water under the bridge now. My Uncle was given this option in 1971. He was an overweight, drug-addicted criminal. He went into the Marines. Right into their Fat boy group. Came out 2.5 years later, After my Grandfathers death, a completely different person. |
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Post by shakin on Oct 4, 2023 12:05:49 GMT -5
Wish there was another way because I agree with Jetworks that prison is not rehabilitation. The only other idea for people that aren't fully gone would be an option to join the military and get their shit together. I think this "kid" is too far gone. The mother's time was years ago and she missed that opportunity. I also agree that if he had a father (she was married before spawning) and the father was a good man there is a much better chance this kid would have turned out better. Water under the bridge now. My Uncle was given this option in 1971. He was an overweight, drug-addicted criminal. He went into the Marines. Right into their Fat boy group. Came out 2.5 years later, After my Grandfathers death, a completely different person. yeah that was then this is now send a kid into this military and he'll come out with purple hair and a new set of pronouns |
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Post by tkasper01 on Oct 4, 2023 12:26:37 GMT -5
My Uncle was given this option in 1971. He was an overweight, drug-addicted criminal. He went into the Marines. Right into their Fat boy group. Came out 2.5 years later, After my Grandfathers death, a completely different person. yeah that was then this is now send a kid into this military and he'll come out with purple hair and a new set of pronouns Agreed. It was more to point out the process. It worked for him. We just need a different path. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Oct 4, 2023 14:13:37 GMT -5
yeah that was then this is now send a kid into this military and he'll come out with purple hair and a new set of pronouns Agreed. It was more to point out the process. It worked for him. We just need a different path. Lock em down 24/7 and make em watch Davey and Goliath and Mr Rogers. |
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Post by Trades on Oct 4, 2023 14:49:57 GMT -5
yeah that was then this is now send a kid into this military and he'll come out with purple hair and a new set of pronouns Agreed. It was more to point out the process. It worked for him. We just need a different path. We need to fix our military thereby fixing that path. If that isn't possible then all is lost anyway. Having been in the military I hope that the vast majority see the woke agenda for what it is. |
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Post by 2foolish on Oct 4, 2023 17:23:59 GMT -5
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Post by 2foolish on Oct 4, 2023 17:26:10 GMT -5
ah sorry... the answer is incarceration...the lefts attempt to depopulate prisons is why crime all over is out of control... As it stands now? Wholly incorrect. It wasn't a good option when I was turning keys, it's even worse now. Trades is on to something with PURPOSEFUL punishment/incarceration, then you might see the chance that the light goes on for some. It's like dog training; you don't just call the dog by name, you have to attach a command to it otherwise the dog just looks at you like WTF and keeps doing what it's doing in between pauses. analogy to a dog is kind of condescending to criminals...like they don't know any better...what is PURPOSEFUL incarceration?...like addiction treatment?...i think most of the homeless should be given a choice....drug rehab or jail... |
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Post by 2foolish on Oct 4, 2023 17:39:03 GMT -5
Wish there was another way because I agree with Jetworks that prison is not rehabilitation. The only other idea for people that aren't fully gone would be an option to join the military and get their shit together. I think this "kid" is too far gone. The mother's time was years ago and she missed that opportunity. I also agree that if he had a father (she was married before spawning) and the father was a good man there is a much better chance this kid would have turned out better. Water under the bridge now. My Uncle was given this option in 1971. He was an overweight, drug-addicted criminal. He went into the Marines. Right into their Fat boy group. Came out 2.5 years later, After my Grandfathers death, a completely different person. God Bless him... |
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Post by Jetworks on Oct 4, 2023 19:08:08 GMT -5
As it stands now? Wholly incorrect. It wasn't a good option when I was turning keys, it's even worse now. Trades is on to something with PURPOSEFUL punishment/incarceration, then you might see the chance that the light goes on for some. It's like dog training; you don't just call the dog by name, you have to attach a command to it otherwise the dog just looks at you like WTF and keeps doing what it's doing in between pauses. analogy to a dog is kind of condescending to criminals...like they don't know any better...what is PURPOSEFUL incarceration?...like addiction treatment?...i think most of the homeless should be given a choice....drug rehab or jail... I get what you're saying, but truth be told I feel most people learn best when taught like they are dogs (mostly). Almost all behavior is learned, and typically it's a consequence of how it was taught. Positive reinforcement is more effective than negative, and experiences can be reshaped to be teachable moments. Of course there are always outliers, but by and large that approach works. I know I'm not usually the hippy-dippy one around here, but I'm speaking from a significant professional and personal viewpoint, so I think I'm pretty well-versed (I actually teach this shit now, lol). Purposeful incarceration is just that; something that is more than just a day-hab for inmates. My first choice would be adding in trade school certifications. Of course drug treatment and psych already exist, but I question their efficacy (and motivations). They're certainly needed, so you can't nuke them, but they definitely need refinement. Homelessness/drugs/alcohol/mental illness is the eternal dog chasing its tail conundrum; hard to pin down which one lead to which for each individual, so it winds up being a spectrum people try to address (usually poorly/inadequately) so it continues, ad nauseum. Like I said, no easy (or cheap) answers. |
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Post by southparkcpa on Oct 5, 2023 5:22:56 GMT -5
ah sorry...the answer is incarceration...the lefts attempt to depopulate prisons is why crime all over is out of control... Wish there was another way because I agree with Jetworks that prison is not rehabilitation. The only other idea for people that aren't fully gone would be an option to join the military and get their shit together. I think this "kid" is too far gone. The mother's time was years ago and she missed that opportunity. I also agree that if he had a father (she was married before spawning) and the father was a good man there is a much better chance this kid would have turned out better. Water under the bridge now. Either of you guys ever heard of this holster??? |
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Post by tkasper01 on Oct 5, 2023 5:57:40 GMT -5
Wish there was another way because I agree with Jetworks that prison is not rehabilitation. The only other idea for people that aren't fully gone would be an option to join the military and get their shit together. I think this "kid" is too far gone. The mother's time was years ago and she missed that opportunity. I also agree that if he had a father (she was married before spawning) and the father was a good man there is a much better chance this kid would have turned out better. Water under the bridge now. Either of you guys ever heard of this holster??? That is pretty big for me. I prefer a smaller lightweight holster. This style is similar to what I use for both of my handguns. Covers the trigger but there is no manual release. Just pull a bit and it comes free. I do not want to be fumbling around when, and if I am getting shot at. www.blackhawk.com/holsters/stache-iwb-1/stache-iwb-base-holster-kit/P1646116.html |
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Post by Trades on Oct 5, 2023 7:40:36 GMT -5
I am really torn on this one. Yes I think McCarthy could be doing a much better job but it is also forcing an unearned error for the GOP when they need all the help they can get. I was listening to Ben Shapiro last night and while his analysis annoyed me I do think he is right that now is not the time to make this move. |
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