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2024 Jets News Mar 25, 2024 12:10:42 GMT -5

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"I'm 80 years old and I want results now," the Jets dismissed Coach Pete Carroll today after one season and replaced him with Rich Kotite.

"I'm entitled to some enjoyment, and that means winning," said Hess today, virtually branding the team as quitters under Carroll for their late-season collapse. Their five straight defeats insured a losing record for the 18th time in 35 seasons and entrenched the Jets' reputation as a perennial losing franch

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2024 Jets News Mar 25, 2024 15:28:48 GMT -5 Raoul Duke, adpz, and 3 more like this

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Mar 25, 2024 9:15:04 GMT -5 Raoul Duke said:

Mar 25, 2024 8:24:36 GMT -5 Jetworks said:

I think the decrease in actual, game-type contact during practice is a huge factor for those susceptible. If you're half-assing it most of the time, when you have to actually give that 100% your body may react poorly to that demand if it's not used to it. Common sense, but hey, player safety.

Totally agree. A lot of coaches/players are saying this.

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I have always been wary of our strength and conditioning team.

You're conditioning the body to react a certain way to certain stressors. But what do I know, I'm just the nurse.

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"I'm 80 years old and I want results now," the Jets dismissed Coach Pete Carroll today after one season and replaced him with Rich Kotite.

"I'm entitled to some enjoyment, and that means winning," said Hess today, virtually branding the team as quitters under Carroll for their late-season collapse. Their five straight defeats insured a losing record for the 18th time in 35 seasons and entrenched the Jets' reputation as a perennial losing franch

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2024 Jets News Mar 26, 2024 8:07:16 GMT -5

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I was curious about the #Jets offensive line issues/injuries over the years.

I looked back at the last 14 seasons and found how many offensive linemen played significant snaps each year, and who started the most at each position vs. who the expected starters were

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2023: 13 (Mekhi Becton, Laken Tomlinson, Wes Schweitzer, Jake Hanson, Chris Glaser, Alijah Vera-Tucker, Joe Tippmann, Billy Turner, Max Mitchell, Carter Warren, Duane Brown, Xavier Newman, Connor McGovern)

Expected Starters:

LT: Brown
LG: Tomlinson
C: McGovern
RG Vera-Tucker
RT: Becton

Actual Starters:

LT: Becton (16 games)
LG: Tomlinson (17)
C: Tippmann (14)
RG: Hanson (4)
RT: Mitchell (7)
2022: 11 (Duane Brown, Laken Tomlinson, Connor McGovern, Dan Feeney, Alijah Vera-Tucker, Mike Remmers, Nate Herbig, Cedric Ogbuehi, Max Mitchell, George Fant, Laurent Duvernay Tardif)

Expected Starters:

LT: Brown
LG: Tomlinson
C: McGovern
RG: Vera-Tucker
RT: Fant

Actual Starters:

LT: Brown (12)
LG: Tomlinson (17)
C: McGovern (17)
RG: Herbig (11)
RT: Ogbuehi (5)
2021: 10 (Mekhi Becton, George Fant, Conor McDermott, Connor McGovern, Morgan Moses, Mekhi Becton, Alijah Vera-Tucker, Dan Feeney, Chuma Edoga, Greg Van Roten, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif)

Expected Starters:

LT: Becton
LG: Vera-Tucker
C: McGovern
RG: Van Roten
RT: Fant

Actual Starters:

LT: Fant (15)
LG: Vera-Tucker (16)
C: McGovern (15)
RG: Van Roten (10)
RT: Moses (16)
2020: 9 (Mekhi Becton, Greg Van Roten, George Fant, Alex Lewis, Connor McDermott, Chuma Edoga, Connor McGovern, Pat Elflein, Josh Andrews)

Expected Starters:

LT: Becton
LG: Lewis
C: McGovern
RG: Van Roten
RT: Fant

Actual Starters:

LT: Becton (13)
LG: Lewis (9)
C: McGovern (16)
RG: Van Roten (13)
RT: Fant (14)
2019: 11 (Brent Qvale, Kelvin Beachum, Alex Lewis, Ryan Kalil, Conor McDermott, Brandon Shell, Kelechi Osemele, Jonathan Harrison, Brian Winters, Chuma Edoga, Tom Compton)

Expected Starters:

LT: Beachum
LG: Osemele
C Kalil
RG: Winters
RT: Shell

Actual Starters:

LT: Beachum (13)
LG: Lewis (12)
C: Harrison (10)
RG: Winters (9)
RT: Shell (11)
2018: 8 (Kelvin Beachum, James Carpenter, Brian Winters, Brandon Shell, Jonotthan Harrison, Brent Qvale, Spencer Long)

Expected Starters:

LT: Beachum
LG: Carpenter
C: Long
RG: Winters
RT: Shell

Actual Starters:

LT: Beachum (16)
LG: Carpenter (10)
C: Long (13)
RG: Winters (16)
RT: Shell (14)
2017: 8 (Kelvinb Beachum, Brandon Shell, Dakota Dozier, Brian Winters, Brent Qvale, James Carpenter, Wesley Johnson, Ben Ijalana, Jonathan Harrison)

Expected Starters:

LT: Beachum
LG: Carpenter
C: Johnson
RG: Winters
RT: Ijalana

Actual Starters:

LT: Beachum (16)
LG: Carpenter (16)
C: Johnson (15)
RG: Winters (13)
RT: Shell (12)
2016: 10 (Dakota Dozier, Brandon Shell, James Carpenter, Brian Winters, Nick Mangold, Wesley Johnson, Ryan Clady, Ben Ijalana, Brent Qvale, Breno Giacomini

Expected Starters:

LT: Clady
LG: Carpenter
C: Mangold
RG: Winters
RT: Ijalana

Actual Starters:

LT: Clady (8)
LG: Carpenter (16)
C: Mangold (8)
RG: Winters (13)
RT: Ijalana (13)
2015: 7 (Nick Mangold, James Carpenter, Wesley Johnson, Brian Winters, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Willie Colon, Breno Giacomini)

Expected Starters:

LT: Ferguson
LG: Carpenter
C: Mangold
RG: Colon
RT: Giacomini

Actual Starters:

LT: Ferguson (16)
LG: Carpenter (16
C: Mangold (15)
RG: Winters (10)
RT: Giacomini (16)
2014: 6 (Nick Mangold, Willie Colon, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Breno Giacomini, Oday Aboushi, Brian Winters, Dalton Freeman)

Expected Starters:

LT: Ferguson
LG: Winters
C: Mangold
RG: Colon
RT: Giacomini

Actual Starters:

LT: Ferguson (16)
LG: Aboushi (10)
C: Mangold (15)
RG: Colon (16)
RT: Giacomini (16)
2013: 6 (Willie Colon, Nick Mangold, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Austin Howard, Brian Winters, Valdimir Ducasse)

Expected Starters:

LT: Ferguson
LG: Ducasse
C: Mangold
RG: Colon
RT: Howard

Actual Starters:

LT: Ferguson (16)
LG: Winters (12)
C: Mangold (16)
RG: Colon (16)
RT: Howard (16)
2012: 7 D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold, Brandon Moore, Matt Slauson, Jason Smith, Vladimir Ducasse, Austin Howard

Expected Starters:

LT: Ferguson
LG: Slauson
C: Mangold
RG: Moore
RT: Howard

Actual Starters:

LT: Ferguson (16)
LG: Slauson (16)
C: Mangold (16)
RG: Moore (16)
RT: Howard (16)
2011: 6 (Nick Mangold, Brandon Moore, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Matt Slauson, Wayne Hunter, Vlad Ducasse)

Expected Starters:

LT: Ferguson
LG: Slauson
C: Mangold
RG: Moore
RT: Hunter

Actual Starters:

LT: Ferguson (16)
LG: Slauson (16)
C: Mangold (14)
RG: Moore (16)
RT: Hunter (16)
2010: 6 (Nick Mangold, Brandon Moore, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Damien Woody, Matt Slauson, Wayne Hunter)

Expected Starters:

LT: Ferguson
LG: Slauson
C: Mangold
RG: Moore
RT: Woody

Actual Starters:

LT: Ferguson (16)
LG: Slauson (16)
C: Mangold (16)
RG: Moore (16)
RT: Woody (13)
Summary:

8+ lineman used: 8 times (2016-2023)

Fully Healthy Seasons from each starter: 1 (2012)

Fully Healthy Seasons from 3+ starters: 6 of 14 season

- offensive line injuries/shuffling a major issue so far through the Joe Douglas era

- Jets haven't had consistency on the line since 2015, the last time they had a winning season, which I don't think is a coincidence

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Goodell is a hypocrite

"I'm 80 years old and I want results now," the Jets dismissed Coach Pete Carroll today after one season and replaced him with Rich Kotite.

"I'm entitled to some enjoyment, and that means winning," said Hess today, virtually branding the team as quitters under Carroll for their late-season collapse. Their five straight defeats insured a losing record for the 18th time in 35 seasons and entrenched the Jets' reputation as a perennial losing franch

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Mar 26, 2024 8:07:16 GMT -5 Trades said:

I was curious about the #Jets offensive line issues/injuries over the years.

I looked back at the last 14 seasons and found how many offensive linemen played significant snaps each year, and who started the most at each position vs. who the expected starters were

a thread🧵
2023: 13 (Mekhi Becton, Laken Tomlinson, Wes Schweitzer, Jake Hanson, Chris Glaser, Alijah Vera-Tucker, Joe Tippmann, Billy Turner, Max Mitchell, Carter Warren, Duane Brown, Xavier Newman, Connor McGovern)

Expected Starters:

LT: Brown
LG: Tomlinson
C: McGovern
RG Vera-Tucker
RT: Becton

Actual Starters:

LT: Becton (16 games)
LG: Tomlinson (17)
C: Tippmann (14)
RG: Hanson (4)
RT: Mitchell (7)
2022: 11 (Duane Brown, Laken Tomlinson, Connor McGovern, Dan Feeney, Alijah Vera-Tucker, Mike Remmers, Nate Herbig, Cedric Ogbuehi, Max Mitchell, George Fant, Laurent Duvernay Tardif)

Expected Starters:

LT: Brown
LG: Tomlinson
C: McGovern
RG: Vera-Tucker
RT: Fant

Actual Starters:

LT: Brown (12)
LG: Tomlinson (17)
C: McGovern (17)
RG: Herbig (11)
RT: Ogbuehi (5)
2021: 10 (Mekhi Becton, George Fant, Conor McDermott, Connor McGovern, Morgan Moses, Mekhi Becton, Alijah Vera-Tucker, Dan Feeney, Chuma Edoga, Greg Van Roten, Laurent Duvernay-Tardif)

Expected Starters:

LT: Becton
LG: Vera-Tucker
C: McGovern
RG: Van Roten
RT: Fant

Actual Starters:

LT: Fant (15)
LG: Vera-Tucker (16)
C: McGovern (15)
RG: Van Roten (10)
RT: Moses (16)
2020: 9 (Mekhi Becton, Greg Van Roten, George Fant, Alex Lewis, Connor McDermott, Chuma Edoga, Connor McGovern, Pat Elflein, Josh Andrews)

Expected Starters:

LT: Becton
LG: Lewis
C: McGovern
RG: Van Roten
RT: Fant

Actual Starters:

LT: Becton (13)
LG: Lewis (9)
C: McGovern (16)
RG: Van Roten (13)
RT: Fant (14)
2019: 11 (Brent Qvale, Kelvin Beachum, Alex Lewis, Ryan Kalil, Conor McDermott, Brandon Shell, Kelechi Osemele, Jonathan Harrison, Brian Winters, Chuma Edoga, Tom Compton)

Expected Starters:

LT: Beachum
LG: Osemele
C Kalil
RG: Winters
RT: Shell

Actual Starters:

LT: Beachum (13)
LG: Lewis (12)
C: Harrison (10)
RG: Winters (9)
RT: Shell (11)
2018: 8 (Kelvin Beachum, James Carpenter, Brian Winters, Brandon Shell, Jonotthan Harrison, Brent Qvale, Spencer Long)

Expected Starters:

LT: Beachum
LG: Carpenter
C: Long
RG: Winters
RT: Shell

Actual Starters:

LT: Beachum (16)
LG: Carpenter (10)
C: Long (13)
RG: Winters (16)
RT: Shell (14)
2017: 8 (Kelvinb Beachum, Brandon Shell, Dakota Dozier, Brian Winters, Brent Qvale, James Carpenter, Wesley Johnson, Ben Ijalana, Jonathan Harrison)

Expected Starters:

LT: Beachum
LG: Carpenter
C: Johnson
RG: Winters
RT: Ijalana

Actual Starters:

LT: Beachum (16)
LG: Carpenter (16)
C: Johnson (15)
RG: Winters (13)
RT: Shell (12)
2016: 10 (Dakota Dozier, Brandon Shell, James Carpenter, Brian Winters, Nick Mangold, Wesley Johnson, Ryan Clady, Ben Ijalana, Brent Qvale, Breno Giacomini

Expected Starters:

LT: Clady
LG: Carpenter
C: Mangold
RG: Winters
RT: Ijalana

Actual Starters:

LT: Clady (8)
LG: Carpenter (16)
C: Mangold (8)
RG: Winters (13)
RT: Ijalana (13)
2015: 7 (Nick Mangold, James Carpenter, Wesley Johnson, Brian Winters, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Willie Colon, Breno Giacomini)

Expected Starters:

LT: Ferguson
LG: Carpenter
C: Mangold
RG: Colon
RT: Giacomini

Actual Starters:

LT: Ferguson (16)
LG: Carpenter (16
C: Mangold (15)
RG: Winters (10)
RT: Giacomini (16)
2014: 6 (Nick Mangold, Willie Colon, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Breno Giacomini, Oday Aboushi, Brian Winters, Dalton Freeman)

Expected Starters:

LT: Ferguson
LG: Winters
C: Mangold
RG: Colon
RT: Giacomini

Actual Starters:

LT: Ferguson (16)
LG: Aboushi (10)
C: Mangold (15)
RG: Colon (16)
RT: Giacomini (16)
2013: 6 (Willie Colon, Nick Mangold, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Austin Howard, Brian Winters, Valdimir Ducasse)

Expected Starters:

LT: Ferguson
LG: Ducasse
C: Mangold
RG: Colon
RT: Howard

Actual Starters:

LT: Ferguson (16)
LG: Winters (12)
C: Mangold (16)
RG: Colon (16)
RT: Howard (16)
2012: 7 D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold, Brandon Moore, Matt Slauson, Jason Smith, Vladimir Ducasse, Austin Howard

Expected Starters:

LT: Ferguson
LG: Slauson
C: Mangold
RG: Moore
RT: Howard

Actual Starters:

LT: Ferguson (16)
LG: Slauson (16)
C: Mangold (16)
RG: Moore (16)
RT: Howard (16)
2011: 6 (Nick Mangold, Brandon Moore, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Matt Slauson, Wayne Hunter, Vlad Ducasse)

Expected Starters:

LT: Ferguson
LG: Slauson
C: Mangold
RG: Moore
RT: Hunter

Actual Starters:

LT: Ferguson (16)
LG: Slauson (16)
C: Mangold (14)
RG: Moore (16)
RT: Hunter (16)
2010: 6 (Nick Mangold, Brandon Moore, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Damien Woody, Matt Slauson, Wayne Hunter)

Expected Starters:

LT: Ferguson
LG: Slauson
C: Mangold
RG: Moore
RT: Woody

Actual Starters:

LT: Ferguson (16)
LG: Slauson (16)
C: Mangold (16)
RG: Moore (16)
RT: Woody (13)
Summary:

8+ lineman used: 8 times (2016-2023)

Fully Healthy Seasons from each starter: 1 (2012)

Fully Healthy Seasons from 3+ starters: 6 of 14 season

- offensive line injuries/shuffling a major issue so far through the Joe Douglas era

- Jets haven't had consistency on the line since 2015, the last time they had a winning season, which I don't think is a coincidence

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Brutal. Wonder what the % are trough the NFL.

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2024 Jets News Mar 26, 2024 8:36:48 GMT -5

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"I'm 80 years old and I want results now," the Jets dismissed Coach Pete Carroll today after one season and replaced him with Rich Kotite.

"I'm entitled to some enjoyment, and that means winning," said Hess today, virtually branding the team as quitters under Carroll for their late-season collapse. Their five straight defeats insured a losing record for the 18th time in 35 seasons and entrenched the Jets' reputation as a perennial losing franch

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Anecdotally, seems like injuries league wide have gone up since the last labor agreement when they did away with mandatory off season workouts. When did they ban those, about 20 yrs ago? Also could be maybe they report more injuries these days instead of playing thru it? I dunno.

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2024 Jets News Mar 26, 2024 8:57:29 GMT -5

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Goodell is a hypocrite

"I'm 80 years old and I want results now," the Jets dismissed Coach Pete Carroll today after one season and replaced him with Rich Kotite.

"I'm entitled to some enjoyment, and that means winning," said Hess today, virtually branding the team as quitters under Carroll for their late-season collapse. Their five straight defeats insured a losing record for the 18th time in 35 seasons and entrenched the Jets' reputation as a perennial losing franch

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2024 Jets News Mar 29, 2024 11:49:47 GMT -5

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Goodell is a hypocrite

"I'm 80 years old and I want results now," the Jets dismissed Coach Pete Carroll today after one season and replaced him with Rich Kotite.

"I'm entitled to some enjoyment, and that means winning," said Hess today, virtually branding the team as quitters under Carroll for their late-season collapse. Their five straight defeats insured a losing record for the 18th time in 35 seasons and entrenched the Jets' reputation as a perennial losing franch

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