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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Feb 6, 2015 21:05:50 GMT -5
I only know of Agholor based on his HS career because he came out of the Tampabay area. Coming out of HS he was rated the top TB player of the year on offense and not only had the athleticism, but also the smarts and was recruited heavily. He was raised in a great family environment and has his head spun on the right way. I need too watch some film on him.......I already know there would never be any character concerns. That's good to hear. I've been trying to find more USC tape so hopefully we've be able to review him more. That reminds me maybe we should start a recruiting class thread since it was the other day. |
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Post by Paradis on Feb 7, 2015 2:22:40 GMT -5
Yeah, it's been pretty quiet here this past week. I wouldn't be surprised if Dante Fowler Jr goes before Ray and Gregory. I'm trying to find more tape on him right now. Shhh, you're stealing the thunder from my upcoming mock! ...and I agree with what Rob is saying about Cooper. I too, have always had him as a #10-20 selection. An exemplar of reliable and bankable production... but you know me, man. Top 10? ceeeeeiling. Parker all the way. |
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Post by Paradis on Feb 7, 2015 2:26:58 GMT -5
Don't forget to mention Lee. Supposedly he was an Idzik favorite, and the "man of stone" actually attempted a draft day trade to move up for. I wouldn't have minded Lee in the 2nd round, but I sure as shit wasn't trading up for him. What do you think of Nelson Agholor? He's very similar to Lee. Not as athletic, but a smoother WR I thought. He really corrected his body catching this year and had 104 rec, 1313 yards, and 12 TDs. Hey nothing wrong with Lee, man! I know you weren't a "fan" but he's not worth a finger wag. He came on real good towards the last 3rd of the season when the injury stuff was behind him. It's hard to qualify him in a class that include Beckham, Evans, Watkins, Benjamin, etc, but don't sleep on Lee. He's gonna be around a long time me thinks. Agholor, whom i need to find more tape on, looked to me like a lesser Cooper. Had some weak spots here and there, but highly productive, and honestly underrated against the competition this year. I have him just under Strong/Hardy and above the likes of Smith, Coates. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Feb 7, 2015 2:33:30 GMT -5
I wouldn't have minded Lee in the 2nd round, but I sure as shit wasn't trading up for him. What do you think of Nelson Agholor? He's very similar to Lee. Not as athletic, but a smoother WR I thought. He really corrected his body catching this year and had 104 rec, 1313 yards, and 12 TDs. Hey nothing wrong with Lee, man! I know you weren't a "fan" but he's not worth a finger wag. He came on real good towards the last 3rd of the season when the injury stuff was behind him. It's hard to qualify him in a class that include Beckham, Evans, Watkins, Benjamin, etc, but don't sleep on Lee. He's gonna be around a long time me thinks. Agholor, whom i need to find more tape on, looked to me like a lesser Cooper. Had some weak spots here and there, but highly productive, and honestly underrated against the competition this year. I have him just under Strong/Hardy and above the likes of Smith, Coates. It's no knock on Lee really. That's just how strong last years WR class was. It was suppose to be like shooting fish in a barrel. In a normal year he would have been a mid to late round pick. That's why Idzik had to go. We needed a WR and undrafted free agents we doing better than our 1st round pick. |
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Post by Paradis on Feb 7, 2015 17:23:44 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, I watched the game highlights of SFA vs Sam Houston, and this guy Keyshawn Hill (RB) looked super legit for SH. Doesn't appear to be on any list anywhere, but he's a senior - and he ought to be.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Feb 7, 2015 17:37:26 GMT -5
Dorial Green-Beckham - WR - Sooners Oklahoma WR Dorial Green-Beckham must perform well at the combine to stabilize his draft stock, according to NFL Media draft analyst Lance Zierlein. "The last time we saw Green-Beckham in a game was Dec. 7, 2013 (SEC Championship Game), as he was dismissed from Missouri last offseason and sat out the 2014 season after transferring to Oklahoma," Zierlein wrote. "However, given his rare athleticism, everyone is assuming he's going to test well at the combine, and he needs to meet high expectations for his workout. If he doesn't run a really good 40-yard dash, I think that's going to hurt him." Zierlein recently interviewed an NFC director of personnel who didn't believe Green-Beckham should be taken prior to the fourth-round. "I think the consistent problems for Josh Gordon are going to leak over and hurt (Green-Beckham's) draft stock," the executive said. "He's tall and fast and has good hands, but he can't be trusted. Why would you take a guy like that before the third day?" The 6-foot-6, 225-pounder "has the ability to be a similar pro prospect as A.J. Green and earn top-10 grades." I know it's kind of overkill, but imagine Parker in the 1st, Gurley in the 2nd, and DGB in the 3rd. I'd probably piss my pants with excitement. Even Geno could look half way decent with those weapons. |
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Post by Lithfan on Feb 7, 2015 17:58:49 GMT -5
Dorial Green-Beckham - WR - Sooners Oklahoma WR Dorial Green-Beckham must perform well at the combine to stabilize his draft stock, according to NFL Media draft analyst Lance Zierlein. "The last time we saw Green-Beckham in a game was Dec. 7, 2013 (SEC Championship Game), as he was dismissed from Missouri last offseason and sat out the 2014 season after transferring to Oklahoma," Zierlein wrote. "However, given his rare athleticism, everyone is assuming he's going to test well at the combine, and he needs to meet high expectations for his workout. If he doesn't run a really good 40-yard dash, I think that's going to hurt him." Zierlein recently interviewed an NFC director of personnel who didn't believe Green-Beckham should be taken prior to the fourth-round. "I think the consistent problems for Josh Gordon are going to leak over and hurt (Green-Beckham's) draft stock," the executive said. "He's tall and fast and has good hands, but he can't be trusted. Why would you take a guy like that before the third day?" The 6-foot-6, 225-pounder "has the ability to be a similar pro prospect as A.J. Green and earn top-10 grades." I know it's kind of overkill, but imagine Parker in the 1st, Gurley in the 2nd, and DGB in the 3rd. I'd probably piss my pants with excitement. Even Geno could look half way decent with those weapons. At first, I thought this was crazy -- if we take Parker in the first there is absolutely no need for DGB in the 3rd. But then I thought about the talent, and if you can get DGB - potential to be a guy like Dez in the 3rd, how do you pass on that. Question is -- will he be more like Josh Gordon/Justin Blackmon or Dez at the next level -- more likely somewhere in between. |
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Post by RobR on Feb 7, 2015 18:31:29 GMT -5
Dorial Green-Beckham - WR - Sooners Oklahoma WR Dorial Green-Beckham must perform well at the combine to stabilize his draft stock, according to NFL Media draft analyst Lance Zierlein. "The last time we saw Green-Beckham in a game was Dec. 7, 2013 (SEC Championship Game), as he was dismissed from Missouri last offseason and sat out the 2014 season after transferring to Oklahoma," Zierlein wrote. "However, given his rare athleticism, everyone is assuming he's going to test well at the combine, and he needs to meet high expectations for his workout. If he doesn't run a really good 40-yard dash, I think that's going to hurt him." Zierlein recently interviewed an NFC director of personnel who didn't believe Green-Beckham should be taken prior to the fourth-round. "I think the consistent problems for Josh Gordon are going to leak over and hurt (Green-Beckham's) draft stock," the executive said. "He's tall and fast and has good hands, but he can't be trusted. Why would you take a guy like that before the third day?" The 6-foot-6, 225-pounder "has the ability to be a similar pro prospect as A.J. Green and earn top-10 grades." I know it's kind of overkill, but imagine Parker in the 1st, Gurley in the 2nd, and DGB in the 3rd. I'd probably piss my pants with excitement. Even Geno could look half way decent with those weapons. That's not overkill...it's called long overdue. If that happened I'll start googling chafed penis cream. |
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Post by Lithfan on Feb 7, 2015 19:19:37 GMT -5
I know it's kind of overkill, but imagine Parker in the 1st, Gurley in the 2nd, and DGB in the 3rd. I'd probably piss my pants with excitement. Even Geno could look half way decent with those weapons. I would be shocked if DGB made it past the 2nd round. His size, speed and hands -- someone is going to take a shot at getting a Dez/AJ Green type talent. I can't see him lasting to either the 3rd or 4th. |
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Post by Paradis on Feb 7, 2015 21:48:04 GMT -5
Dorial Green-Beckham - WR - Sooners Oklahoma WR Dorial Green-Beckham must perform well at the combine to stabilize his draft stock, according to NFL Media draft analyst Lance Zierlein. "The last time we saw Green-Beckham in a game was Dec. 7, 2013 (SEC Championship Game), as he was dismissed from Missouri last offseason and sat out the 2014 season after transferring to Oklahoma," Zierlein wrote. "However, given his rare athleticism, everyone is assuming he's going to test well at the combine, and he needs to meet high expectations for his workout. If he doesn't run a really good 40-yard dash, I think that's going to hurt him." Zierlein recently interviewed an NFC director of personnel who didn't believe Green-Beckham should be taken prior to the fourth-round. "I think the consistent problems for Josh Gordon are going to leak over and hurt (Green-Beckham's) draft stock," the executive said. "He's tall and fast and has good hands, but he can't be trusted. Why would you take a guy like that before the third day?" The 6-foot-6, 225-pounder "has the ability to be a similar pro prospect as A.J. Green and earn top-10 grades." I know it's kind of overkill, but imagine Parker in the 1st, Gurley in the 2nd, and DGB in the 3rd. I'd probably piss my pants with excitement. Even Geno could look half way decent with those weapons. Not overkill consider our roster minus Harvin, buts its not overly common to take 2 in 3 rounds. It's like saying "we're not totally sure that 1st one is gonna work out, so we'll grab this one too"... only exceptions would be like JAX last year because they were so talent deprived. I'd happy with Parker & Hardy. I'd rather have just DGB straight up, but i have to concede that he's not concern-free. When all said and done, I'm on record saying Gurley gets drafted like he never even blew his knee. He'll slip out of the top 10, and that's about it. He's just too good. DGB, assuming he interviews well, will be round 2 at worst... What you illustrated Hollywood, is my wet dream. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Feb 8, 2015 12:28:34 GMT -5
I would be shocked if DGB made it past the 2nd round. His size, speed and hands -- someone is going to take a shot at getting a Dez/AJ Green type talent. I can't see him lasting to either the 3rd or 4th. I agree that he shouldn't last that long, but after this year I think a lot of teams are going to stay away from trouble makers. Right now I see him going mid 2nd to early 3rd so I think there's a slight chance we can get him there. That's not overkill...it's called long overdue. If that happened I'll start googling chafed penis cream. Same here. If that happens I'll be completely sold on our front office. I'd happy with Parker & Hardy. I'd rather have just DGB straight up, but i have to concede that he's not concern-free. I think this is more realistic, but it's still wet dream worthy. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Feb 8, 2015 15:09:23 GMT -5
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Post by RobR on Feb 8, 2015 16:54:14 GMT -5
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Post by Paradis on Feb 8, 2015 21:52:00 GMT -5
x100
I already read that people who coached thought he'd interview well. Rough life caught up with him, but good kid - kind of thing.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Feb 10, 2015 10:04:51 GMT -5
I know it's kind of overkill, but imagine Parker in the 1st, Gurley in the 2nd, and DGB in the 3rd. I'd probably piss my pants with excitement. Even Geno could look half way decent with those weapons. Not overkill consider our roster minus Harvin, buts its not overly common to take 2 in 3 rounds. It's like saying "we're not totally sure that 1st one is gonna work out, so we'll grab this one too"... only exceptions would be like JAX last year because they were so talent deprived. I'd happy with Parker & Hardy. I'd rather have just DGB straight up, but i have to concede that he's not concern-free. When all said and done, I'm on record saying Gurley gets drafted like he never even blew his knee. He'll slip out of the top 10, and that's about it. He's just too good. DGB, assuming he interviews well, will be round 2 at worst... What you illustrated Hollywood, is my wet dream. Agreed, the words "overkill" and "offensive skill players" should never be mentioned in the same sentence regarding the Jets right now. Who those picks should be will be somewhat affected by free agency and more importantly what happens with Harvin. Regardless, a bigger WR target and a RB has to be addressed in this draft. |
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