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Post by Ff2 on Feb 19, 2015 11:34:49 GMT -5
Boco Harem is killing more people that ISIS....why don't we head in there as well? Until other countries can man up and fight along side us rather than calling us in when they need us....then yell death to America 2 weeks later... We can't even take care of our soldiers when they come home. Not exactly a direct answer to the question. There are other countries wanting to fight ISIS but they are asking for more help from the U.S. Jordan is begging for more help, the Kurds have been begging for more weapons, and thus far we have given them the middle finger. Countries like Jordan do not have the capability to take on ISIS without significant help. It's unrealistic to think that these small middle eastern countries will all come together and form a united force to fight ISIS, the U.S. must lead this. At least for the first time that I can remember there are a few Middle eastern countries WANTING to actually take the fight to a terrorist organization like ISIS, more should be done. Why is it unrealistic for countries to handle problems in their own backyard? Lets face it, 6 months after we weaponize half these countries they'll use them against the US.
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Post by thebigragu on Feb 19, 2015 11:42:08 GMT -5
No cnn then. That's a liberals lifeline. And John Stewart Bill Maher I think Chris Wallace still has the line of the day " Putin is playing geopolitical chess... and Obama is playing marbles....lol from the comments I like Chris Wallace. Everyone fails to remember what illegal shit Putin is able to do because of his position in Russia's shitty gov't. The Russian Chris Wallace would be in prison if he said negative things about Putin. Trying to take Crimea isn't exactly a good idea, they're broke. Listen I'm not going to blow smoke up your ass. Obama is an awful president. 8 spend half my time in Chicago now since I'll be moving there and he has even lost the hardcore African American community there. He is a puppet and a fucking bad one. How do you explain this moron who thinks he's a Hollywood actor? How do you defend him. I'm sure you know people in the military and if you do you know they are humiliated by this disrespectful piece of shit. I was so glad they made American Sniper, argue however you want about how he was portrayed, but he was a fucking hero to the Marines and other units he served with. And you don't put a fucking flag at half mast..you put one for a fucking crackhead though. He is morally bankrupt, he is a racist a hidden one now who admires and will never talk against what his reverend wright spits out of that mouth. Read his book. Worship of a father who couldn't keep his dick in his pants and was a card carrying communist/ socalist. Fuck Barack Obama. He's a better dressed Al Sharpton with a smoother hand up his ass doing the talking.
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Post by DDNYjets on Feb 19, 2015 11:45:09 GMT -5
Not exactly a direct answer to the question. There are other countries wanting to fight ISIS but they are asking for more help from the U.S. Jordan is begging for more help, the Kurds have been begging for more weapons, and thus far we have given them the middle finger. Countries like Jordan do not have the capability to take on ISIS without significant help. It's unrealistic to think that these small middle eastern countries will all come together and form a united force to fight ISIS, the U.S. must lead this. At least for the first time that I can remember there are a few Middle eastern countries WANTING to actually take the fight to a terrorist organization like ISIS, more should be done. Why is it unrealistic for countries to handle problems in their own backyard? Lets face it, 6 months after we weaponize half these countries they'll use them against the US. I agree. We don't have the stomach to do what needs to be done. We are not willing to make omelets. ISIS has already won. Thankfully we are protected by two oceans. We will have to learn to put up with the small cells that pop up here and there and get used to more Boston bombings and random beheadings. That is our future.
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Post by jetswin on Feb 19, 2015 11:54:16 GMT -5
Why is it unrealistic for countries to handle problems in their own backyard? Lets face it, 6 months after we weaponize half these countries they'll use them against the US. I agree. We don't have the stomach to do what needs to be done. We are not willing to make omelets. ISIS has already won. Thankfully we are protected by two oceans. We will have to learn to put up with the small cells that pop up here and there and get used to more Boston bombings and random beheadings. That is our future. only because our President is busy taking selfies while our citizens are murdered...there should never be a reason to accept this type of barbarism under any circumstances. By ignoring it and claiming in not so many words that it is under privileged disassociated youth responsible not radical religious idealists is an attempt to numb the atrocities. It is outrageous and disgusting, and a damn shame that the President fiddles while the world burns.
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Post by DDNYjets on Feb 19, 2015 12:00:52 GMT -5
I agree. We don't have the stomach to do what needs to be done. We are not willing to make omelets. ISIS has already won. Thankfully we are protected by two oceans. We will have to learn to put up with the small cells that pop up here and there and get used to more Boston bombings and random beheadings. That is our future. only because our President is busy taking selfies while our citizens are murdered...there should never be a reason to accept this type of barbarism under any circumstances. By ignoring it and claiming in not so many words that it is under privileged disassociated youth responsible not radical religious idealists is an attempt to numb the atrocities. It is outrageous and disgusting, and a damn shame that the President fiddles while the world burns. Honestly, I think the only cure for this is a nuke. I compare these savages to the WWII Japanese soldiers in the sense that they don't care if they die. We knew we couldn't penetrate Japan without suffering over a million casualties so we decided to melt a couple of cities. That is the only way to end this. Sheer devastation. Let them see what we are capable of and that will break them. But that is never going to happen so we will keep sending our men and women there to fight under impossible ROE and then bring them home once the public gets sick of fighting again. Rinse and repeat.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Feb 19, 2015 12:02:15 GMT -5
Not exactly a direct answer to the question. There are other countries wanting to fight ISIS but they are asking for more help from the U.S. Jordan is begging for more help, the Kurds have been begging for more weapons, and thus far we have given them the middle finger. Countries like Jordan do not have the capability to take on ISIS without significant help. It's unrealistic to think that these small middle eastern countries will all come together and form a united force to fight ISIS, the U.S. must lead this. At least for the first time that I can remember there are a few Middle eastern countries WANTING to actually take the fight to a terrorist organization like ISIS, more should be done. Why is it unrealistic for countries to handle problems in their own backyard? Lets face it, 6 months after we weaponize half these countries they'll use them against the US. Really? These countries haven't agreed on anything in the last thousand years and you think they can realistically lead a multi front fight against ISIS? That's comical. If you want to say let them worry about it, fine, but we will have to fight them at some point. That's not even debatable.
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Post by jetswin on Feb 19, 2015 12:03:41 GMT -5
only because our President is busy taking selfies while our citizens are murdered...there should never be a reason to accept this type of barbarism under any circumstances. By ignoring it and claiming in not so many words that it is under privileged disassociated youth responsible not radical religious idealists is an attempt to numb the atrocities. It is outrageous and disgusting, and a damn shame that the President fiddles while the world burns. Honestly, I think the only cure for this is a nuke. I compare these savages to the WWII Japanese soldiers in the sense that they don't care if they die. We knew we couldn't penetrate Japan without suffering over a million casualties so we decided to melt a couple of cities. That is the only way to end this. Sheer devastation. Let them see what we are capable of and that will break them. But that is never going to happen so we will keep sending our men and women there to fight under impossible ROE and then bring them home once the public gets sick of fighting again. Rinse and repeat. yup...a vicious cycle
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Post by thebigragu on Feb 19, 2015 12:08:09 GMT -5
Why is it unrealistic for countries to handle problems in their own backyard? Lets face it, 6 months after we weaponize half these countries they'll use them against the US. I agree. We don't have the stomach to do what needs to be done. We are not willing to make omelets. ISIS has already won. Thankfully we are protected by two oceans. We will have to learn to put up with the small cells that pop up here and there and get used to more Boston bombings and random beheadings. That is our future. I can personally attest to how easy it is to cross the a mexican border. Or how a Sri Lankan or Indian can get a shitty ship job and just never return to work. Or book a flight to the Cayman islands and get your travel visa. Then just step ouside jfk. The immigration control in this country is a fucking joke. I'm ha4d lressed convincing myself that it's not actually done on purpose. Also the Albanian we're really just Non practicing Muslims a boat ride away from Italy in Montenegro is the biggest fucking clue of how warped our immigration is. Times like these. Well i am a man of faith and all these things must come to pass. Im awe struck watching it all playout though. A few politicians that did some hard time would have seen the shanking about to take place, and the riot
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Post by DDNYjets on Feb 19, 2015 12:17:04 GMT -5
I agree. We don't have the stomach to do what needs to be done. We are not willing to make omelets. ISIS has already won. Thankfully we are protected by two oceans. We will have to learn to put up with the small cells that pop up here and there and get used to more Boston bombings and random beheadings. That is our future. I can personally attest to how easy it is to cross the a mexican border. Or how a Sri Lankan or Indian can get a shitty ship job and just never return to work. Or book a flight to the Cayman islands and get your travel visa. Then just step ouside jfk. The immigration control in this country is a fucking joke. I'm ha4d lressed convincing myself that it's not actually done on purpose. Also the Albanian we're really just Non practicing Muslims a boat ride away from Italy in Montenegro is the biggest fucking clue of how warped our immigration is. Times like these. Well i am a man of faith and all these things must come to pass. Im awe struck watching it all playout though. A few politicians that did some hard time would have seen the shanking about to take place, and the riot I agree with you. When I talk about oceans protecting us am I am referring to mass invasions. We are not going to get invaded by an ISIS army. Instead, we will have more of these small attacks. Immigration is a joke. But they don't even need to come across the border illegally. We will buy them a plane ticket and give them a student visa. We will feed them, house them and school them. I think we need to bring back hard labor and public hangings. Hang people like the Tsarnaev brothers in the public square and send their friends and family off the the mines to work. Would love to see that.
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Post by PK on Feb 19, 2015 13:24:59 GMT -5
www.newser.com/story/202937/giuliani-shares-horrible-thing-about-obama.htmlLMFAO! Awww. Obama doesn't love Guiliani. Obama doesn't love us. Next...we're gonna find out he didn't return that guys weedwacker, he downloaded music illegally, ripped tags of off a mattress, gives horrible backrubs (he should take lessons from Biden), didn't rewind movies in the 80's and a few times didn't use his turn signal when changing lanes. The guy is a monster.
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Post by Ff2 on Feb 19, 2015 13:37:03 GMT -5
Why is it unrealistic for countries to handle problems in their own backyard? Lets face it, 6 months after we weaponize half these countries they'll use them against the US. Really? These countries haven't agreed on anything in the last thousand years and you think they can realistically lead a multi front fight against ISIS? That's comical. If you want to say let them worry about it, fine, but we will have to fight them at some point. That's not even debatable. Therefore every time any countries in the world cant get their shit together, we'll be there....its not a sustainable strategy. Its one we've tried over and over again. And yes it's debatable. Everything's debatable. We say that about every terrorist organization. They have a way of stumbling and imploding. We said Al Queda would be on out doorstep. I'm still waiting.
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Post by DDNYjets on Feb 19, 2015 13:38:45 GMT -5
PK, I think that point went way over your head.
And after King Bloombergs 3rd term, followed by DeBlasshole I think the city is longing for Rudolph.
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Post by DDNYjets on Feb 19, 2015 13:45:14 GMT -5
Really? These countries haven't agreed on anything in the last thousand years and you think they can realistically lead a multi front fight against ISIS? That's comical. If you want to say let them worry about it, fine, but we will have to fight them at some point. That's not even debatable. Therefore every time any countries in the world cant get their shit together, we'll be there....its not a sustainable strategy. Its one we've tried over and over again. And yes it's debatable. Everything's debatable. We say that about every terrorist organization. They have a way of stumbling and imploding. We said Al Queda would be on out doorstep. I'm still waiting. That is b.c we beat AQ into an inch of its life in Afghanistan and Iraq. Unfortunately we didn't finished the job and we left some embers. Those embers are on fire now. Forget about the middle east. Wait until the shit really starts hitting the fan in Africa and Southeast Asia.
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Post by PK on Feb 19, 2015 13:48:11 GMT -5
PK, I think that point went way over your head. And after King Bloombergs 3rd term, followed by DeBlasshole I think the city is longing for Rudolph. I'm pretty sure he meant what he said and didn't have much of a point that to use the "I LOVE AMERICA" Pavlov's bell. My point is the GOP needs to kinda forget about the guy. He's done in a couple years. Finito. Constantly talking about how Obama is bullied by Putin, how he chewed gum, had a pumpkin spice latte in his hand and saluted, took a selfie, etc. isn't making your party look very sane at all. How about some ideas...NEW ideas...not just the same rhetoric and masturbating about how great America is and how evil half of us who live here are.
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Post by PK on Feb 19, 2015 13:55:14 GMT -5
Therefore every time any countries in the world cant get their shit together, we'll be there....its not a sustainable strategy. Its one we've tried over and over again. And yes it's debatable. Everything's debatable. We say that about every terrorist organization. They have a way of stumbling and imploding. We said Al Queda would be on out doorstep. I'm still waiting. That is b.c we beat AQ into an inch of its life in Afghanistan and Iraq. Unfortunately we didn't finished the job and we left some embers. Those embers are on fire now. Forget about the middle east. Wait until the shit really starts hitting the fan in Africa and Southeast Asia. Yes. Embers were left. Following a Status of Forces Agreement signed by the previous administration and insisted by the Iraqi government. THEY wanted us out because we were non negotiable on letting their courts try American servicemen (understandable). The embers are there because we didn't have a plan when we f*cking went there in the first place. Everybody NOT named Cheney and Rumsfeld saw this coming from a hundred miles away. You think the soldiers want to go back to that god forsaken shithole? To help those motherf*ckers that buried det cord and artillery shells along the road? And the assholes that housed them and lied to them about their location? The asshole "civilians" that would go around and kill stray dogs in the neighborhood so that insurgents could sneak around at night and hide bombs? F*ck them. They got the country they deserve. Wanna eliminate ISIS? Dust off a few nukes and supress your urge to actually care about "civilians" and let's be done with it.
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