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Post by The Turk on Apr 17, 2015 3:56:15 GMT -5
24th of April is the accepted anniversary of the Armenian Genocide. The subject is still a sore one in Turkey altough obviously not as much as for the Armenians themselves. In Turkey we were always led to believe that we were the victims of Armenian treason in the First World War and we only even started hearing about the Genocide because of the Asala terorrists in the 70's and 80's that were killing Turkish diplomats . Which was true to some extent but obviously it wasn't the whole truth. Recently there has been more sympathy in the Turkish general public for the plight of the Armenians and more and more Turks are accepting the events of 1915 as Genocide.
I am one of them and as insignificant as it may be I wanted to commemorate in my own way by changing my avatar to the Forget Me Not FLower that is being used by the Turkish Armenians as the commemorative sign of the Genocide.
I'm personally very sorry for the Genocide, may all the victims rest in peace.
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Post by Ff2 on Apr 17, 2015 8:49:08 GMT -5
props to you. It's always best to confront the past honestly.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Apr 17, 2015 9:59:39 GMT -5
I saw the Pope recognized the genocide recently, and Turkey pulled out their ambassador for someplace (in the Vatican?).
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Post by The Turk on Apr 17, 2015 11:16:05 GMT -5
I saw the Pope recognized the genocide recently, and Turkey pulled out their ambassador for someplace (in the Vatican?). Yes the Vatican. |
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Post by quantum on Apr 23, 2015 8:01:37 GMT -5
I'll be waiting forever for my reparations check from the fucking Brits.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Sept 30, 2015 10:05:39 GMT -5
24th of April is the accepted anniversary of the Armenian Genocide. The subject is still a sore one in Turkey altough obviously not as much as for the Armenians themselves. In Turkey we were always led to believe that we were the victims of Armenian treason in the First World War and we only even started hearing about the Genocide because of the Asala terorrists in the 70's and 80's that were killing Turkish diplomats . Which was true to some extent but obviously it wasn't the whole truth. Recently there has been more sympathy in the Turkish general public for the plight of the Armenians and more and more Turks are accepting the events of 1915 as Genocide. I am one of them and as insignificant as it may be I wanted to commemorate in my own way by changing my avatar to the Forget Me Not FLower that is being used by the Turkish Armenians as the commemorative sign of the Genocide. I'm personally very sorry for the Genocide, may all the victims rest in peace. Apology accepted. Now, can someone, anyone, please do something about Azerbajani aggression in the Nagorno Karabakh border areas. |
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Post by Brady's a catcher on Sept 30, 2015 15:18:45 GMT -5
I don't know, Armenians are kind of gross and look like they smell. And don't they deserve it for spawning the Kardashians?
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Post by Jetworks on Sept 30, 2015 16:05:55 GMT -5
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Oct 1, 2015 8:12:15 GMT -5
I don't know, Armenians are kind of gross and look like they smell. And don't they deserve it for spawning the Kardashians? I get the Kardasian joke attempt, but the rest is infantile, insulting, and outright racist. |
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Post by jetstream23 on Oct 6, 2015 22:26:10 GMT -5
props to you. It's always best to confront the past honestly. ... says the guy whose football team cheated its way to multiple Super Bowls! |
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Post by freestater on Oct 7, 2015 8:16:28 GMT -5
I guess I've never understood the purpose of apologizing for something in which you had no hand. For that matter, accepting an apology (and presumably offering forgiveness) for an offense that was not committed against you. Like family members who forgive murderers for their crime. I mean, you're not the one who got killed, who the hell are you to forgive the asshole for it?
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Oct 7, 2015 8:38:22 GMT -5
I guess I've never understood the purpose of apologizing for something in which you had no hand. For that matter, accepting an apology (and presumably offering forgiveness) for an offense that was not committed against you. Like family members who forgive murderers for their crime. I mean, you're not the one who got killed, who the hell are you to forgive the asshole for it? I can't speak to the giving the apology side, but I think the point on the "accepting" side is that since the dead are not around to say one way or the other on the apology question, the next best thing is the closest family member (who knew the dead person best presumably), and/or the descendents of the race subjected to the genocidal acts. |
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Post by freestater on Oct 7, 2015 8:45:38 GMT -5
I guess I've never understood the purpose of apologizing for something in which you had no hand. For that matter, accepting an apology (and presumably offering forgiveness) for an offense that was not committed against you. Like family members who forgive murderers for their crime. I mean, you're not the one who got killed, who the hell are you to forgive the asshole for it? I can't speak to the giving the apology side, but I think the point on the "accepting" side is that since the dead are not around to say one way or the other on the apology question, the next best thing is the closest family member (who knew the dead person best presumably), and/or the descendents of the race subjected to the genocidal acts. Yeah, I understand the thought behind it, I just don't get where one would assume that kind of authority. I sort of look at it as immoral, tbh. To offer absolution for something that that didn't affect you nearly as much as the real victim... it just hits me wrong. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Oct 7, 2015 8:58:06 GMT -5
Thanks to you guys I too now recognize the Armenian genocide.
My sincerest apologies to those who suffered and their families.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Oct 7, 2015 9:19:46 GMT -5
I can't speak to the giving the apology side, but I think the point on the "accepting" side is that since the dead are not around to say one way or the other on the apology question, the next best thing is the closest family member (who knew the dead person best presumably), and/or the descendents of the race subjected to the genocidal acts. Yeah, I understand the thought behind it, I just don't get where one would assume that kind of authority. I sort of look at it as immoral, tbh. To offer absolution for something that that didn't affect you nearly as much as the real victim... it just hits me wrong. What's the alternative? |
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