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Post by thebigragu on Apr 21, 2015 15:58:17 GMT -5
I went with 3. They all are real close though. Maybe 4 but 3 if it's mandatory
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Post by Jetworks on Apr 21, 2015 16:30:03 GMT -5
This, but gun to my head I went with #1 because it addresses two of the biggest needs in the first two picks, LB and OL. I know a lot of people place high value on BPA, but I prefer BPA at position of value,, and for the Jets OL is at a premium both now and looking ahead. Hopefully they see it the same way. |
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Apr 21, 2015 17:34:42 GMT -5
None would be my "ideal" scenario. #1 makes us the best team going forward, so that was my pick. Surprised #2 is leading, that is draft that looks good for fantasy football, not as good for winning.
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Post by Touchable on Apr 21, 2015 18:33:50 GMT -5
None would be my "ideal" scenario. #1 makes us the best team going forward, so that was my pick. Surprised #2 is leading, that is draft that looks good for fantasy football, not as good for winning. I disagree If we're going to be trotting out Geno or a veteran journeyman for the foreseeable future, then we might as well surround them with as many weapons as possible. Teaming up Cooper with Marshall, Decker, Kerley and Amaro? That's the foundation for an explosive passing attack if we can just get a semblance of competent QB play. And I personally don't see a dramatic drop off from a guy like Ray to a guy like Harold. I'm not the biggest Bryce Petty fan but he's a strong armed QB with outstanding intangibles who isn't a bad prospect to take in the 3rd and sit on the bench for a year or two. The only thing I don't like about Scenario #2 is taking an ILB in the 4th round instead of a RB or OL. |
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Apr 21, 2015 18:45:47 GMT -5
None would be my "ideal" scenario. #1 makes us the best team going forward, so that was my pick. Surprised #2 is leading, that is draft that looks good for fantasy football, not as good for winning. I disagree If we're going to be trotting out Geno or a veteran journeyman for the foreseeable future, then we might as well surround them with as many weapons as possible. Teaming up Cooper with Marshall, Decker, Kerley and Amaro? That's the foundation for an explosive passing attack if we can just get a semblance of competent QB play. And I personally don't see a dramatic drop off from a guy like Ray to a guy like Harold. I'm not the biggest Bryce Petty fan but he's a strong armed QB with outstanding intangibles who isn't a bad prospect to take in the 3rd and sit on the bench for a year or two. The only thing I don't like about Scenario #2 is taking an ILB in the 4th round instead of a RB or OL. I actually agree with you on the OLB stuff, but I think the same can be said with WR in terms of how good it makes the overall WR group. I think a WR in round 2 or 3 makes our WR Corp really good. Not as good as with Cooper, but still very good, and you don't need an elite WR group to win. My worry is the drop off in OL. I'd rather see one of the OL at 6, because there is a much bigger drop off in that position as the others. Some may say it's a homer opinion, but I honestly don't think it is, but lots of people are going to be wrong about Scherff at LT, especially if he has a year or 2 to get acclimated prior to going to LT, which he would here. Ideally trading back and getting an OL would be even better, but I truly believe Scherff is worth 6th pick |
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Post by joepnyj1 on Apr 21, 2015 19:15:57 GMT -5
Interesting...what jumps out to you about Hundley? His footwork to me is the best of the top QBs. Winston's upper and lower body act as if they are being run seaparately, thus the wild inconsistency in his game. Mariota's is choppy and mechanical which again is is reflected in his need to follow the scheme of the play. When I watch Hundley I notice a build up of momentum and energy in the way he is dropping back. It's smooth and decisive. In someways I think he is the opposite of Mariota in that he has great natural talent and solid fundamentals, but was held back by a conservative system. I think a lot of people looked at the simplicity of the offense and felt it was a the reflection of the coach's confidence in Hundley as a player. But I think when you take a look at more of his tape it is more readily apparent that his OL may have been the main culprit in having to have such a conservative game plan. I think he will need a year of seasoning to catch up to speed and be a starter, but that's why I am touting him as a 2nd-3rd player rather than campaigning for him at 6 overall. But the guy has the biggest upside of those three if he's given a year to learn on the bench so he can really work on his craft as a pro. He has all the tools and I think if he had been at Oregon with a much better caliber of a supporting cast he would be discussed as one of the top prospects. Good stuff Mo...thanks! |
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Post by TheMo on Apr 21, 2015 19:38:07 GMT -5
I disagree If we're going to be trotting out Geno or a veteran journeyman for the foreseeable future, then we might as well surround them with as many weapons as possible. Teaming up Cooper with Marshall, Decker, Kerley and Amaro? That's the foundation for an explosive passing attack if we can just get a semblance of competent QB play. And I personally don't see a dramatic drop off from a guy like Ray to a guy like Harold. I'm not the biggest Bryce Petty fan but he's a strong armed QB with outstanding intangibles who isn't a bad prospect to take in the 3rd and sit on the bench for a year or two. The only thing I don't like about Scenario #2 is taking an ILB in the 4th round instead of a RB or OL. I actually agree with you on the OLB stuff, but I think the same can be said with WR in terms of how good it makes the overall WR group. I think a WR in round 2 or 3 makes our WR Corp really good. Not as good as with Cooper, but still very good, and you don't need an elite WR group to win. My worry is the drop off in OL. I'd rather see one of the OL at 6, because there is a much bigger drop off in that position as the others. Some may say it's a homer opinion, but I honestly don't think it is, but lots of people are going to be wrong about Scherff at LT, especially if he has a year or 2 to get acclimated prior to going to LT, which he would here. Ideally trading back and getting an OL would be even better, but I truly believe Scherff is worth 6th pick You know who I think is being totally overlooked? Andrus Peat. He's a solid in both the run and pass blocking aspects. I guess he doesn't blow you away in one or the other, but he is a very good prospect. He has some technique issues that lend themselves to him getting beat on occasion by speed rushers, but he is an excellent OL prospect. If I get the Browns selections I would go Gurley/Gordon and Peat. Follow that up with Harold-Hundley and I honestly think this team has a chance to be back in contention this season and if everything pans could be on the rise in 2016-2017. |
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Post by DowNY on Apr 21, 2015 19:42:52 GMT -5
I just want Cooper man. Lol
All these analysts acting like we solved our WR problems by bringing in BMarsh but fails to realize if he can't go a couple games then we're back to what we were last season. Non-dynamic.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Apr 21, 2015 19:52:42 GMT -5
I actually agree with you on the OLB stuff, but I think the same can be said with WR in terms of how good it makes the overall WR group. I think a WR in round 2 or 3 makes our WR Corp really good. Not as good as with Cooper, but still very good, and you don't need an elite WR group to win. My worry is the drop off in OL. I'd rather see one of the OL at 6, because there is a much bigger drop off in that position as the others. Some may say it's a homer opinion, but I honestly don't think it is, but lots of people are going to be wrong about Scherff at LT, especially if he has a year or 2 to get acclimated prior to going to LT, which he would here. Ideally trading back and getting an OL would be even better, but I truly believe Scherff is worth 6th pick You know who I think is being totally overlooked? Andrus Peat. He's a solid in both the run and pass blocking aspects. I guess he doesn't blow you away in one or the other, but he is a very good prospect. He has some technique issues that lend themselves to him getting beat on occasion by speed rushers, but he is an excellent OL prospect. If I get the Browns selections I would go Gurley/Gordon and Peat. Follow that up with Harold-Hundley and I honestly think this team has a chance to be back in contention this season and if everything pans could be on the rise in 2016-2017. Peat certainly is polarizing. He can look All World some games and look Honorable Mention Pac 12 another. He's got all the tools to put it together, he just has to put it together. Easier said than done sometimes, but certainly doable. I don't totally agree on the RB selection or Hundley, but I could live that scenario. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Apr 21, 2015 20:13:20 GMT -5
I actually agree with you on the OLB stuff, but I think the same can be said with WR in terms of how good it makes the overall WR group. I think a WR in round 2 or 3 makes our WR Corp really good. Not as good as with Cooper, but still very good, and you don't need an elite WR group to win. My worry is the drop off in OL. I'd rather see one of the OL at 6, because there is a much bigger drop off in that position as the others. Some may say it's a homer opinion, but I honestly don't think it is, but lots of people are going to be wrong about Scherff at LT, especially if he has a year or 2 to get acclimated prior to going to LT, which he would here. Ideally trading back and getting an OL would be even better, but I truly believe Scherff is worth 6th pick You know who I think is being totally overlooked? Andrus Peat. He's a solid in both the run and pass blocking aspects. I guess he doesn't blow you away in one or the other, but he is a very good prospect. He has some technique issues that lend themselves to him getting beat on occasion by speed rushers, but he is an excellent OL prospect. If I get the Browns selections I would go Gurley/Gordon and Peat. Follow that up with Harold-Hundley and I honestly think this team has a chance to be back in contention this season and if everything pans could be on the rise in 2016-2017. Peat won't last that long. I'd be surprised if the Giants didn't take him, or even the Bears. |
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Post by JB1089 on Apr 21, 2015 20:16:46 GMT -5
I'll take #4 please. #3 would be my 2nd choice.
I really like Cooper and Harold, but I'm so low on Petty that I would view that as a waste of a draft pick.
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Post by Lithfan on Apr 21, 2015 20:25:17 GMT -5
I'm hoping we take DGB but he hasn't even been in on a visit to the facility, so not likely Not true VTN...lots of teams draft players that haven't had visits. Sometimes its a ploy by a team to try to increase the players stock so they can draft someone else. Agreed. Sometimes a visit could be due to concern over a prospect -- a character concern and you wan tto spend some time with the guy or you want your MDs to evaluate a medical condition. Given that it is a new regime, we really have no wya of knowing how significant these visits are. |
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Post by Paradis on Apr 21, 2015 23:56:26 GMT -5
there we go... 3 pages. that's more like it.
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Post by Paradis on Apr 21, 2015 23:57:01 GMT -5
interesting, over at Schelp nation, the Mariota option was a running away.
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Post by Touchable on Apr 22, 2015 0:02:19 GMT -5
interesting, over at Schelp nation, the Mariota option was a running away. Change out Johnson for Dorsett in Round 2 and I'd be more inclined to vote for Mariota. Then take a guy like Mauldin, Hunter, or Golden in the 3rd. |
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