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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 13:20:57 GMT -5
I also found the 15% off email from scout in my spam folder. Exactly where it belongs. I get that Ballbather had the right to sell off JI but he sure was doggy about the things he promised scout would and would not do. I remember him insisting that scout was not out to use our email addresses for marketing and as proof pointed out no emails had been sent. Unsurprisingly, as many said, the second the switch occurred the emails would begin. I have a hard time believing he didn't know that was a significant part of the acquisition. Does anyone have the original TOS from JI? Seems odd that Ballbather can just sell them to a third party for profit. Wouldn't the address holder need to approve the sale? |
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Post by rexneffect on Dec 9, 2014 13:36:35 GMT -5
I also found the 15% off email from scout in my spam folder. Exactly where it belongs. I get that Ballbather had the right to sell off JI but he sure was doggy about the things he promised scout would and would not do. I remember him insisting that scout was not out to use our email addresses for marketing and as proof pointed out no emails had been sent. Unsurprisingly, as many said, the second the switch occurred the emails would begin. I have a hard time believing he didn't know that was a significant part of the acquisition. Does anyone have the original TOS from JI? Seems odd that Ballbather can just sell them to a third party for profit. Wouldn't the address holder need to approve the sale? I don't know why you think you or any user of JI would be entitled to approve or reject the sale. You freely turned over your email address to JI. JI owns the content put on the forums. You would be better off targeting a violation of the TOS as a breach of contract but the TOS probably included JI's right to transfer ownership of the content--including user contact info--and to send occasional emails that include marketing its own services. If you ever went onto scout and set up your account there then you probably agreed to scout's TOS which no doubt include heavy rights to market the shit out of all of us. But really you have suffered no real injury here and even thinking about expending your time and money pursuing it would be an absolute waste. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 13:44:15 GMT -5
Does anyone have the original TOS from JI? Seems odd that Ballbather can just sell them to a third party for profit. Wouldn't the address holder need to approve the sale? I don't know why you think you or any user of JI would be entitled to approve or reject the sale. You freely turned over your email address to JI. JI owns the content put on the forums.You would be better off targeting a violation of the TOS as a breach of contract but the TOS probably included JI's right to transfer ownership of the content--including user contact info--and to send occasional emails that include marketing its own services. If you ever went onto scout and set up your account there then you probably agreed to scout's TOS which no doubt include heavy rights to market the shit out of all of us. But really you have suffered no real injury here and even thinking about expending your time and money pursuing it would be an absolute waste. Right. To JI, not scout. And I understand JI owns posted content. But how do they have a right to sell the email address without approval? We signed up and agreed to the TOS on JI, not scout. I'm not looking for any compensation at all. I would just love for Ballbather to be forced to relinquish all those email addresses. |
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Post by southside on Dec 9, 2014 13:52:28 GMT -5
They didn't sell our email addresses. Most of us signed up over there under our own will. That's kind of the issue.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 13:57:11 GMT -5
They didn't sell our email addresses. Most of us signed up over there under our own will. That's kind of the issue. I believe Ballbather finally admitted that he did sell the addresses in one of the last threads over at JI. Then tried to back-peddle by saying all folks had to do was unsubscribe. Problem is that scout does not make it easy to unsubscribe. |
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Post by thebigragu on Dec 9, 2014 14:03:34 GMT -5
I think there's just a little bit of overreacting going on here. Delete spam button is not that much of a life event guys
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Post by thebigragu on Dec 9, 2014 14:04:58 GMT -5
I sold all your emails to a Nigerian cocoa farm salesman. He promised huge profits for everyone
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 9, 2014 14:16:48 GMT -5
I got the same email....I tried using their unsubscribe link but when I entered my email address it said that the email addy was unrecognized. I'm gonna go find Robert Pittman and shove my unsubscribe notice right up his ass. The people running scout were the original writers for The Prisoner. Or the ghost of Joseph Heller |
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Post by southside on Dec 9, 2014 14:19:18 GMT -5
I think there's just a little bit of overreacting going on here. Delete spam button is not that much of a life event guys It's principle. Have you no sense of injustice?! |
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Post by southside on Dec 9, 2014 14:21:38 GMT -5
They didn't sell our email addresses. Most of us signed up over there under our own will. That's kind of the issue. I believe Ballbather finally admitted that he did sell the addresses in one of the last threads over at JI. Then tried to back-peddle by saying all folks had to do was unsubscribe. Problem is that scout does not make it easy to unsubscribe. Seriously? That's fucked up. Fuck him. But in all fairness, it's his server. We signed up willingly. He owned the data we willingly put into it. Was it morally right? I think in the end it betrayed the trust of his community. It's an ethical issue at this point. I guess everyone has their price. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 14:22:41 GMT -5
I got the same email....I tried using their unsubscribe link but when I entered my email address it said that the email addy was unrecognized. I'm gonna go find Robert Pittman and shove my unsubscribe notice right up his ass. The people running scout were the original writers for The Prisoner. Or the ghost of Joseph Heller That's a chestnut right there. Well played. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 14:26:12 GMT -5
I believe Ballbather finally admitted that he did sell the addresses in one of the last threads over at JI. Then tried to back-peddle by saying all folks had to do was unsubscribe. Problem is that scout does not make it easy to unsubscribe. Seriously? That's fucked up. Fuck him. But in all fairness, it's his server. We signed up willingly. He owned the data we willingly put into it. Was it morally right? I think in the end it betrayed the trust of his community. It's an ethical issue at this point. I guess everyone has their price. Yeah, at least that's what I remember from that thread. I never signed up at scout but got an email yesterday, too. As for being his server, I have no problem with Ballbather owning what people posted on JI. I take issue with the fact that he sold the addresses to a third party for profit without approval. If he's legally allowed to do that, fine. But make no mistake, it's a scumbag move. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 9, 2014 14:26:44 GMT -5
They didn't sell our email addresses. Most of us signed up over there under our own will. That's kind of the issue. I believe Ballbather finally admitted that he did sell the addresses in one of the last threads over at JI. Then tried to back-peddle by saying all folks had to do was unsubscribe. Problem is that scout does not make it easy to unsubscribe.  |
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Post by titanbuoy on Dec 9, 2014 15:19:00 GMT -5
Seriously? That's fucked up. Fuck him. But in all fairness, it's his server. We signed up willingly. He owned the data we willingly put into it. Was it morally right? I think in the end it betrayed the trust of his community. It's an ethical issue at this point. I guess everyone has their price. Yeah, at least that's what I remember from that thread. I never signed up at scout but got an email yesterday, too. As for being his server, I have no problem with Ballbather owning what people posted on JI. I take issue with the fact that he sold the addresses to a third party for profit without approval. If he's legally allowed to do that, fine. But make no mistake, it's a scumbag move.This. Sean is a putz. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 15:25:26 GMT -5
Yeah, at least that's what I remember from that thread. I never signed up at scout but got an email yesterday, too. As for being his server, I have no problem with Ballbather owning what people posted on JI. I take issue with the fact that he sold the addresses to a third party for profit without approval. If he's legally allowed to do that, fine. But make no mistake, it's a scumbag move.This. Sean is a putz. Yeah, meanwhile you had tons of guys praising him and the move to scout. I would love to see their faces now. |
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