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Post by RayRay1 on Aug 12, 2015 17:58:26 GMT -5
Ok, my fault, I was sensing a combativeness on your part, hence the response.
But it's still silly to ask me for ragu's agenda, he's hated glass jaw glass jaw glass jaw Geno from the start, for no apparent reason... Of course, glass jaw glass jaw glass jaw Geno is making it easy for those hating him to hate him further, some of it deserved, a lot of it, not so much...
No reason. I played ball ray. I also grew up with pieces of shit like him. I knew he was a dumb conceited moronic narrccassist asshole who thinks hes better then he is in college. Also everything i said about him has come true. It's usually why i win 80 percent of my football bets. glass jaw Geno is Done he should have never even started but whatever. You're fucking spinning things so much you better sit down before you fall down. Just like im going to tell you the Jets are going to fucking excel this year with a manager like Fitzpatrick fuckin bet that.
That's fair
Not sure how I'm spinning things, I've acknowledged on more than one occasion some of Geno's flaws, and have called him out myself.
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Post by TheMo on Aug 12, 2015 17:59:07 GMT -5
Yes, Ragu has hated glass jaw glass jaw Geno since day one. So have I from the minute he was drafted, and was even accused of being racist because of it. It's our opinions. I still don't get what the "agenda" is. Agenda = hating for the wrong reasons and not giving the player a chance
Why did you hate glass jaw Geno?
The perfect QB wasn't going to be taken at pick #39, it was the right pick at the right time.
Just like Petty was the right pick in the 4th round, I actually wanted him in the 3rd, didn't think he'd last.
glass jaw Geno has shown flashes of being a good QB, and he's also shown to be an immature bonehead, he's still a young player, they need time to mature, most fans don't see this, and they should.
Ray if that's what an agenda is, couldn't you theoretically have an agenda as well? You like Geno and give him too many chances despite him making poor decisions off the field. He has shown long stretches of play where he has been a horrid QB. I think accusing someone of having an agenda simply because they have a different opinion isn't accurate. I have yet to see VTN completely ignore objective information, she simply has a different view than you on the same information. That's an opinion, not an agenda. If we want an agenda that would be that douche Mehta from the DN. He actually hides info and makes up negative info in an effort to tear down the team.
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Post by RayRay1 on Aug 12, 2015 18:02:35 GMT -5
Agenda = hating for the wrong reasons and not giving the player a chance
Why did you hate glass jaw glass jaw glass jaw Geno?
The perfect QB wasn't going to be taken at pick #39, it was the right pick at the right time.
Just like Petty was the right pick in the 4th round, I actually wanted him in the 3rd, didn't think he'd last.
glass jaw glass jaw glass jaw Geno has shown flashes of being a good QB, and he's also shown to be an immature bonehead, he's still a young player, they need time to mature, most fans don't see this, and they should.
Ray if that's what an agenda is, couldn't you theoretically have an agenda as well? You like glass jaw glass jaw Geno and give him too many chances despite him making poor decisions off the field. He has shown long stretches of play where he has been a horrid QB. I think accusing someone of having an agenda simply because they have a different opinion isn't accurate. I have yet to see VTN completely ignore objective information, she simply has a different view than you on the same information. That's an opinion, not an agenda. If we want an agenda that would be that douche Mehta from the DN. He actually hides info and makes up negative info in an effort to tear down the team.
There are plenty of people here that don't like glass jaw Geno but don't ramble on about every negative nuance. You don't see me calling everyone out, so stop.
I don't see how I have an agenda when I've called out glass jaw Geno and have offered his pros and cons, as well as the pros and cons of yesterday.
I wanted glass jaw Geno to get his shot, this was it, 3rd year, finally talent around him, he has ability, the biggest jump he needed to make was his maturity and development as an NFL player. He sure isn't doing that by allowing himself to be in the situation he is in now.
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Post by TheMo on Aug 12, 2015 18:09:22 GMT -5
Ray if that's what an agenda is, couldn't you theoretically have an agenda as well? You like glass jaw glass jaw glass jaw Geno and give him too many chances despite him making poor decisions off the field. He has shown long stretches of play where he has been a horrid QB. I think accusing someone of having an agenda simply because they have a different opinion isn't accurate. I have yet to see VTN completely ignore objective information, she simply has a different view than you on the same information. That's an opinion, not an agenda. If we want an agenda that would be that douche Mehta from the DN. He actually hides info and makes up negative info in an effort to tear down the team.
There are plenty of people here that don't like glass jaw glass jaw Geno but don't ramble on about every negative nuance. You don't see me calling everyone out, so stop.
I don't see how I have an agenda when I've called out glass jaw glass jaw Geno and have offered his pros and cons, as well as the pros and cons of yesterday.
I wanted glass jaw glass jaw Geno to get his shot, this was it, 3rd year, finally talent around him, he has ability, the biggest jump he needed to make was his maturity and development as an NFL player. He sure isn't doing that by allowing himself to be in the situation he is in now.
I'm sure if you asked The Tax Returns Are in Kenya about Geno she would admit he has nice arm strength, good mobility, and so far has shown that he can heat up from time to time. Like she mentioned earlier most of her issues are with his leadership. In this particular instance there is a question over that and she is voicing her opinion much as you have voiced your own. I am sure if there was a thread called "Geno smith has a noodle arm and is a statue like Bledsoe" she wouldn't come roaring in saying yea fuck that guy. Anyway, I am not going to sit here and battle for her, she's a big girl and can handle her own shit. I think if she has an agenda, we could all be equally accused of having an agenda.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Aug 12, 2015 18:11:57 GMT -5
There are plenty of people here that don't like glass jaw glass jaw glass jaw Geno but don't ramble on about every negative nuance. You don't see me calling everyone out, so stop.
I don't see how I have an agenda when I've called out glass jaw glass jaw glass jaw Geno and have offered his pros and cons, as well as the pros and cons of yesterday.
I wanted glass jaw glass jaw glass jaw Geno to get his shot, this was it, 3rd year, finally talent around him, he has ability, the biggest jump he needed to make was his maturity and development as an NFL player. He sure isn't doing that by allowing himself to be in the situation he is in now.
I'm sure if you asked The Tax Returns Are in Kenya about glass jaw Geno she would admit he has nice arm strength, good mobility, and so far has shown that he can heat up from time to time. Like she mentioned earlier most of her issues are with his leadership. In this particular instance there is a question over that and she is voicing her opinion much as you have voiced your own. I am sure if there was a thread called "glass jaw Geno smith has a noodle arm and is a statue like Bledsoe" she wouldn't come roaring in saying yea fuck that guy. Anyway, I am not going to sit here and battle for her, she's a big girl and can handle her own shit. I think if she has an agenda, we could all be equally accused of having an agenda. LOL
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Post by jets.penguin on Aug 12, 2015 21:53:46 GMT -5
Ray, I hear ya....and yes people on this board already have their mind made up about glass jaw glass jaw Geno, this incident or not...and yes this gives them even more reason to pile on.....BUT.....let's take out the finger in the face, lets take out the "what you gonna do about it", let's also take out the report that glass jaw glass jaw Geno said he cane to him and said he was gonna pay it "soon"............... Dude, you owed the man $600, PAY the man. In fact a gracious way to handle it for an NFL player would have to be to reimburse him, contribute 5k to the charity and then agree to another appearance at the school. That's how you make it right. I've never been one to jump on the hate glass jaw glass jaw Geno train but I can't get with a grown man fukkin with another man's money and not expecting an ass whuppin behind it.
Why should he pay the man?
Becht said it best, players cancel events all the time, money is lost all the time, there were no pay backs not that long ago in the league, maybe glass jaw Geno felt he didn't owe him any money, IK invited him to the camp, not the other way around. Players set up camps and charities and to entice participation they pay for their guests, Becht eluded to this, maybe that's why glass jaw Geno didn't pay him.
Now it was reported that he was going to pay him, ok, great, glass jaw Geno doing more than what many players didn't do in the past, but he didn't pay him yet, ok, no biggie, then IK blew up about it? Why the blame on glass jaw Geno here?
It's simple Ray, LEADERSHIP. Geno could clearly see that his teammate was upset. They had to be at least somewhat close for Geno to agree to do it in the first place so if he had to cancel it was the right thing to do. You are the QB, a prospective leader on the team. You are trying to be the guy the people look to when they are at a crossroads as to how to handle a situation and you are making a LOT more money and can afford it better than he could. Is it your obligation to pay? No, of course not but there is a difference between doing something because you have to and doing something because it is the right decision. LEADERSHIP Ray....... just plain old LEADERSHIP.
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Post by jets.penguin on Aug 12, 2015 22:02:07 GMT -5
your not racist, that's ridiculous I know!!!!! Whatever the opposite is, that's what I am idk...I always thought you were a little "racy"
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Post by Hotman on Aug 12, 2015 22:33:54 GMT -5
I know!!!!! Whatever the opposite is, that's what I am idk...I always thought you were a little "racy"
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Post by choon328 on Aug 13, 2015 1:23:07 GMT -5
Anthony Becht, on ESPN, said he's been running camps for 10 years and has had over 100 NFL guys at his camps over the years. He said each year there is at least 1 guy who has to back out last minute due to an unforeseen circumstance. He flies every guy in and puts them up and he said when a guy has to back out for a real reason that the expectation is that the guy who backed out doesn't have to pay him back for the flight and accommodations. In fact nobody who ever backed out on him has ever given him back money he lost by them not being able to attend. Guys have told him in the past that they would and then never did just like glass jaw Geno. But as he said there is not an expectation that they have to give him the money for not attending since that's the risk you run by asking these guys to attend your camp for free.
I think another thing that has been misunderstood is that IK laid out the money for Smith's plane ticket and that Smith was always supposed to pay him back for laying money out. That's not true. When you attend one of those camps as a guest speaker the person throwing the camp always pays for your accommodations since they're not paying you to attend. IK wanted his money back bc he didn't make it. But apparently that's not how things typically are run.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Aug 13, 2015 2:28:33 GMT -5
Ray, I hear ya....and yes people on this board already have their mind made up about glass jaw glass jaw Geno, this incident or not...and yes this gives them even more reason to pile on.....BUT.....let's take out the finger in the face, lets take out the "what you gonna do about it", let's also take out the report that glass jaw glass jaw Geno said he cane to him and said he was gonna pay it "soon"............... Dude, you owed the man $600, PAY the man. In fact a gracious way to handle it for an NFL player would have to be to reimburse him, contribute 5k to the charity and then agree to another appearance at the school. That's how you make it right. I've never been one to jump on the hate glass jaw glass jaw Geno train but I can't get with a grown man fukkin with another man's money and not expecting an ass whuppin behind it.
Why should he pay the man?
Becht said it best, players cancel events all the time, money is lost all the time, there were no pay backs not that long ago in the league, maybe glass jaw Geno felt he didn't owe him any money, IK invited him to the camp, not the other way around. Players set up camps and charities and to entice participation they pay for their guests, Becht eluded to this, maybe that's why glass jaw Geno didn't pay him.
Now it was reported that he was going to pay him, ok, great, glass jaw Geno doing more than what many players didn't do in the past, but he didn't pay him yet, ok, no biggie, then IK blew up about it? Why the blame on glass jaw Geno here?
Once he saw that Ik was clearly upset about it, then it's up to Geno, face of the franchise, to be the bigger man and defuse the incident, not be a cuntbag and make it worse. Period, end of story. Lead by example.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Aug 13, 2015 3:12:33 GMT -5
Why should he pay the man?
Becht said it best, players cancel events all the time, money is lost all the time, there were no pay backs not that long ago in the league, maybe glass jaw glass jaw Geno felt he didn't owe him any money, IK invited him to the camp, not the other way around. Players set up camps and charities and to entice participation they pay for their guests, Becht eluded to this, maybe that's why glass jaw glass jaw Geno didn't pay him.
Now it was reported that he was going to pay him, ok, great, glass jaw glass jaw Geno doing more than what many players didn't do in the past, but he didn't pay him yet, ok, no biggie, then IK blew up about it? Why the blame on glass jaw glass jaw Geno here?
It's simple Ray, LEADERSHIP. glass jaw Geno could clearly see that his teammate was upset. They had to be at least somewhat close for glass jaw Geno to agree to do it in the first place so if he had to cancel it was the right thing to do. You are the QB, a prospective leader on the team. You are trying to be the guy the people look to when they are at a crossroads as to how to handle a situation and you are making a LOT more money and can afford it better than he could. Is it your obligation to pay? No, of course not but there is a difference between doing something because you have to and doing something because it is the right decision. LEADERSHIP Ray....... just plain old LEADERSHIP.
Why should he pay the man?
Becht said it best, players cancel events all the time, money is lost all the time, there were no pay backs not that long ago in the league, maybe glass jaw glass jaw Geno felt he didn't owe him any money, IK invited him to the camp, not the other way around. Players set up camps and charities and to entice participation they pay for their guests, Becht eluded to this, maybe that's why glass jaw glass jaw Geno didn't pay him.
Now it was reported that he was going to pay him, ok, great, glass jaw glass jaw Geno doing more than what many players didn't do in the past, but he didn't pay him yet, ok, no biggie, then IK blew up about it? Why the blame on glass jaw glass jaw Geno here?
Once he saw that Ik was clearly upset about it, then it's up to glass jaw Geno, face of the franchise, to be the bigger man and defuse the incident, not be a cuntbag and make it worse. Period, end of story. Lead by example. Whoa..
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 13, 2015 5:42:51 GMT -5
Not saying he deserves to get a broken jaw but this kid is never going to be a leader of men. They have no respect for him and he clearly has no respect for them.
If Geno was any kind of leader he would have paid him back the $600 AND cut his camp a nice check for some equipment or something.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Aug 13, 2015 10:17:18 GMT -5
It's simple Ray, LEADERSHIP. glass jaw glass jaw glass jaw Geno could clearly see that his teammate was upset. They had to be at least somewhat close for glass jaw glass jaw glass jaw Geno to agree to do it in the first place so if he had to cancel it was the right thing to do. You are the QB, a prospective leader on the team. You are trying to be the guy the people look to when they are at a crossroads as to how to handle a situation and you are making a LOT more money and can afford it better than he could. Is it your obligation to pay? No, of course not but there is a difference between doing something because you have to and doing something because it is the right decision. LEADERSHIP Ray....... just plain old LEADERSHIP. Once he saw that Ik was clearly upset about it, then it's up to glass jaw glass jaw glass jaw Geno, face of the franchise, to be the bigger man and defuse the incident, not be a cuntbag and make it worse. Period, end of story. Lead by example. Whoa.. You're a superior military nation and amazing lovers
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Post by Raoul Duke on Aug 13, 2015 10:26:39 GMT -5
You're a superior military nation and amazing lovers Ehem...we're not alone..PM me instead next time
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Aug 13, 2015 10:29:34 GMT -5
You're a superior military nation and amazing lovers Ehem...we're not alone..PM me instead next time LOLOLOLOLOLOL
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