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Post by Stark on Sept 17, 2015 8:48:58 GMT -5
I forgot about Geno because Fitz won. If the bearded wonder keeps winning, Geno and his Kanye jaw will be a distant memory. I forgot about Geno because he sucks.
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Post by Peebag on Sept 17, 2015 9:03:43 GMT -5
I'm kinda with Ray on this one...why the vitriol over this article? What exactly is Geno supposed to say in this situation? It seems like this is what some of you want: "You know what guys, I didn't diffuse the situation with IK like I should have, and even though I'm not telepathic, I should have known that a punch was coming and ducked. Because I didn't, Ryan is now the starter, and I think the Jets would be foolish to come back to me. I'm not mad, it's all my fault. I'm not a leader, and the team doesn't look at me as such. By the way, I DID suck the past two years, and rather than try and improve my game I'm going to realize that fact and seek employment elsewhere after this season." He wants to play. How else should someone who wants to play speak in this situation? Personally, I'm fine with Fitz staying the starter if he plays like he did on Sunday. If the Jets are .500 or over when Geno comes back, he might as well continue to heal the jaw on the bench. I just don't understand why people are so anxious to rip him...for being alive. Trades - with all respect, it's not fair to say Geno was "fighting with a teammate." He wasn't fighting, he didn't start the fight, he failed to meet a commitment. The same thing every one of us is guilty of at some point in our lives. What he didn't know what that he was fucking with Clubber Lang, and his face paid the price for it. Here's deal - he's done some mighty moronic things since he's been with the Jets - and the jaw thing is just one of many - he should shut up, nut up and learn to be a man. Not whine to the media.
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Post by Vondarkmoor on Sept 17, 2015 9:23:42 GMT -5
I'd be angry if I were him too. That punch may have ended his last chance to be a starter in the NFL before it ever got started. I'd be pissed off about that too. Sure it was just the punch? Any chance the fact that he was the worst starting QB in the NFL last year (per ESPN coach and scout poll) was a contributing factor?
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Post by carlito1171 on Sept 17, 2015 9:26:34 GMT -5
I've gotten to the point that I really don't give a crap who our QB is. We don't have a Rodgers or Luck or Wilson, so right now I just want good QB play. Fitz gave us that this past Sunday. If he continues to be a good custodian of the offense, minimizes mistakes and can make an occasional big play or two, then he should stay as starter. If we shit the bed in a couple of our upcoming games against Indy, the Iggles, and/or Miami then I think it's fair to give Geno a shot again after the Bye week if he's ready. Bottom line - I trust the coaching staff to put in the guy who they think is best for the team. I don't think there's a hidden agenda here. Bowles and Gailey aren't going to put in the inferior guy simply because the fans or media think it's a good idea. They want to win. Yeah I'm here as well. Outside of QB I feel comfortable in saying that we have a team that can compete week in and week out. Whoever is the best man for the job should play...
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Post by Trades on Sept 17, 2015 9:34:16 GMT -5
I'm kinda with Ray on this one...why the vitriol over this article? What exactly is Geno supposed to say in this situation? It seems like this is what some of you want: "You know what guys, I didn't diffuse the situation with IK like I should have, and even though I'm not telepathic, I should have known that a punch was coming and ducked. Because I didn't, Ryan is now the starter, and I think the Jets would be foolish to come back to me. I'm not mad, it's all my fault. I'm not a leader, and the team doesn't look at me as such. By the way, I DID suck the past two years, and rather than try and improve my game I'm going to realize that fact and seek employment elsewhere after this season." He wants to play. How else should someone who wants to play speak in this situation? Personally, I'm fine with Fitz staying the starter if he plays like he did on Sunday. If the Jets are .500 or over when Geno comes back, he might as well continue to heal the jaw on the bench. I just don't understand why people are so anxious to rip him...for being alive. Trades - with all respect, it's not fair to say Geno was "fighting with a teammate." He wasn't fighting, he didn't start the fight, he failed to meet a commitment. The same thing every one of us is guilty of at some point in our lives. What he didn't know what that he was fucking with Clubber Lang, and his face paid the price for it. Just because he wasn't throwing or expecting punches doesn't mean he wasn't fighting. Verbal fighting and some of the reports say he was being an arrogant douche is still fighting. That isn't what a leader does. You can still say something like: "I need to work harder to lead this team." or "I apologize to my team, family and fans that I wasn't able to diffuse the situation ..." There are a ton of ways to go that are between, "I am pissed at everyone else that I am in this situation" and "I suck".
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Post by greenwave on Sept 17, 2015 9:50:10 GMT -5
I'm kinda with Ray on this one...why the vitriol over this article? What exactly is Geno supposed to say in this situation? It seems like this is what some of you want: "You know what guys, I didn't diffuse the situation with IK like I should have, and even though I'm not telepathic, I should have known that a punch was coming and ducked. Because I didn't, Ryan is now the starter, and I think the Jets would be foolish to come back to me. I'm not mad, it's all my fault. I'm not a leader, and the team doesn't look at me as such. By the way, I DID suck the past two years, and rather than try and improve my game I'm going to realize that fact and seek employment elsewhere after this season." He wants to play. How else should someone who wants to play speak in this situation? Personally, I'm fine with Fitz staying the starter if he plays like he did on Sunday. If the Jets are .500 or over when Geno comes back, he might as well continue to heal the jaw on the bench. I just don't understand why people are so anxious to rip him...for being alive. Trades - with all respect, it's not fair to say Geno was "fighting with a teammate." He wasn't fighting, he didn't start the fight, he failed to meet a commitment. The same thing every one of us is guilty of at some point in our lives. What he didn't know what that he was fucking with Clubber Lang, and his face paid the price for it. Here's deal - he's done some mighty moronic things since he's been with the Jets - and the jaw thing is just one of many - he should shut up, nut up and learn to be a man. Not whine to the media. Guess that's my point - calling this article "whining" sort of places pre-conceived notions about the player ahead of the actual words. Here are some things he said: "But I have to keep my temper down. I can't exhibit that in the locker room, I can't exhibit that on a daily basis." "Whether it's my team or not, it's Woody's team. It's coach Bowles' team. And it's a trickle-down effect." "We're all in this thing together. It's a collective bond, and it was that way when I was projected the starter and when I got hurt it was that way. And right now it's the same way" "I'm in a different position now, so you've got to be realistic about things." I just don't see how this is whining, or represents things he shouldn't be saying. Let's say next year Bryce Petty has a good camp, but remains second string. If he uses these exact quotes, will you consider that whining?
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Post by Paradis on Sept 17, 2015 10:01:58 GMT -5
Geno needs to keep focused on what's ahead of him. If he was smarter than a leather boot, he'd pull a bill belly and keep saying "I'm moving on, just get ready for when my name's called"... and keep saying it, over and over..
Cause he does need to be ready. This team will not make deep into january on the laurels of Fitz and his beard. He's going to be called upon at some point.
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Post by 2foolish on Sept 17, 2015 10:02:23 GMT -5
there is a whiff of delusion about his responsibility...he's angry...at who?
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Sept 17, 2015 10:03:38 GMT -5
there is a whiff of delusion about his responsibility...he's angry...at who? The guy that broke his jaw would be my guess.
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Post by greenwave on Sept 17, 2015 10:03:59 GMT -5
I'm kinda with Ray on this one...why the vitriol over this article? What exactly is Geno supposed to say in this situation? It seems like this is what some of you want: "You know what guys, I didn't diffuse the situation with IK like I should have, and even though I'm not telepathic, I should have known that a punch was coming and ducked. Because I didn't, Ryan is now the starter, and I think the Jets would be foolish to come back to me. I'm not mad, it's all my fault. I'm not a leader, and the team doesn't look at me as such. By the way, I DID suck the past two years, and rather than try and improve my game I'm going to realize that fact and seek employment elsewhere after this season." He wants to play. How else should someone who wants to play speak in this situation? Personally, I'm fine with Fitz staying the starter if he plays like he did on Sunday. If the Jets are .500 or over when Geno comes back, he might as well continue to heal the jaw on the bench. I just don't understand why people are so anxious to rip him...for being alive. Trades - with all respect, it's not fair to say Geno was "fighting with a teammate." He wasn't fighting, he didn't start the fight, he failed to meet a commitment. The same thing every one of us is guilty of at some point in our lives. What he didn't know what that he was fucking with Clubber Lang, and his face paid the price for it. Just because he wasn't throwing or expecting punches doesn't mean he wasn't fighting. Verbal fighting and some of the reports say he was being an arrogant douche is still fighting. That isn't what a leader does. You can still say something like: "I need to work harder to lead this team." or "I apologize to my team, family and fans that I wasn't able to diffuse the situation ..." There are a ton of ways to go that are between, "I am pissed at everyone else that I am in this situation" and "I suck". OK...but a leader also doesn't let scrubs on the preseason roster bully him into concessions he doesn't think are justified. For that piece, guess it boils down to the full details of the agreement. Unfortunately we don't have those details; and him being an arrogant douche (if true) would change the picture. Do agree on the quotes - there's always another way to convey your emotions. However, I don't see that he said he was "pissed at everyone else"...he could just be saying "I'm pissed at the situation...the situation being that I'm not leading this team when I was primed for a big year." His career might have been ruined by a future bouncer who already had a history of psychotic behavior...he's not supposed to be pissed? My main point here is that we seem to be giving the guy a much harder time than he deserves. If he doesn't use the exact verbiage that people want to hear, he's an idiot who should have his jaw wired shut. I just don't think he's that bad. And it could be that I'm still pissed about the whole situation because I was excited to see what Geno was going to bring in year 3.
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Post by Trades on Sept 17, 2015 10:15:09 GMT -5
Just because he wasn't throwing or expecting punches doesn't mean he wasn't fighting. Verbal fighting and some of the reports say he was being an arrogant douche is still fighting. That isn't what a leader does. You can still say something like: "I need to work harder to lead this team." or "I apologize to my team, family and fans that I wasn't able to diffuse the situation ..." There are a ton of ways to go that are between, "I am pissed at everyone else that I am in this situation" and "I suck". OK...but a leader also doesn't let scrubs on the preseason roster bully him into concessions he doesn't think are justified. For that piece, guess it boils down to the full details of the agreement. Unfortunately we don't have those details; and him being an arrogant douche (if true) would change the picture. Do agree on the quotes - there's always another way to convey your emotions. However, I don't see that he said he was "pissed at everyone else"...he could just be saying "I'm pissed at the situation...the situation being that I'm not leading this team when I was primed for a big year." His career might have been ruined by a future bouncer who already had a history of psychotic behavior...he's not supposed to be pissed? My main point here is that we seem to be giving the guy a much harder time than he deserves. If he doesn't use the exact verbiage that people want to hear, he's an idiot who should have his jaw wired shut. I just don't think he's that bad. And it could be that I'm still pissed about the whole situation because I was excited to see what Geno was going to bring in year 3. Maybe it is because he let us ALL down? We were counting on him since he got drafted to become a good QB. Someone who could make this team better and LEAD the team to the playoffs and beyond. These are the same things that were said about Sanchez, Pennington and every other QB that was supposed to be our light at the end of the tunnel. The fans are frustrated and see his words and actions as immaturity and a lack of leadership. Leaders don't complain about being "pissed" they say they are going to get passed the mistakes and move forward. They take responsibility and through their actions and words show that they see their mistakes and work toward improving.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Sept 17, 2015 10:24:39 GMT -5
I have no idea if Geno is a good leader or not, more than likely isn't. However, giving cliche answers to the media has nothing to do with making someone a good leader. No one in New England's locker room thinks Tom Brady is a great leader because he answers media questions the way everyone else does.
The things that make someone a good leader in the NFL(or sports in general) are not something fans see on a day to day basis.
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Post by cgjet on Sept 17, 2015 10:33:27 GMT -5
Stiff a tough guy for $600 = Broken jaw.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2015 11:01:02 GMT -5
There is abaolutley nothing wrong with what Geno said, the comments against him in this thread are pathetic and moronic! Why is that ray? Hes not the Moron? If the Jets plane went down on the way to Indy, RayRay1 would somehow put on a positive spin.
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Post by carlton on Sept 17, 2015 11:08:21 GMT -5
Why is that ray? Hes not the Moron? If the Jets plane went down on the way to Indy, RahRah would somehow put on a positive spin. The team would get younger. Fresh blood.
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