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Post by Hotman on Oct 11, 2015 21:54:47 GMT -5
Utley appealing suspension.
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Post by vin on Oct 11, 2015 21:59:57 GMT -5
Utley appealing suspension. Not surprising. It basically guarantees he plays only 2 more games in the postseason. Let's go Mets and just beat those fuckers in Game 3 and Game 4. Torre caved to public sentiment. That's unfortunate. The truth of the matter is that he is suspended because Tejada's leg is hurt. Not because the slide is illegal. Not saying Utley is blameless, he shoulders 99% of the blame, but if Tejada doesn't turn his back to the play, he likely isn't hurt. How many games was Coghlan suspended for breaking the Pirates SS leg? I missed Daniel Murphys suspension after the Dodgers/Mets series after a take out slide 3 feet outside the bag. Hawk, I like you as a poster quite a bit but you are out of your fucking element with this one. just be happy as hell you were handed a game. That should be enough. Wait! Hawk is a Dodgers fan?
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Post by Hotman on Oct 11, 2015 22:02:02 GMT -5
Is someone gonna hit him?
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Oct 11, 2015 22:03:52 GMT -5
Is someone gonna hit him? MLB is trying to have the hearing prior to the game tomorrow. MLB doesn't want anything to do with him being on the field in NY.
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Post by vin on Oct 11, 2015 22:04:27 GMT -5
Is someone gonna hit him? If the Mets have a big lead late in the 6th(since we don't know how far Harvey will go) with 2 outs and no one on base, I see Harvey delivering the justice on Utley if he's there. If not Harvey, then the other bullpen guys.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Oct 11, 2015 22:06:30 GMT -5
Is someone gonna hit him? If the Mets have a big lead late in the 6th(since we don't know how far Harvey will go) with 2 outs and no one on base, I see Harvey delivering the justice on Utley if he's there. If not Harvey, then the other bullpen guys. Would you be ok with that?
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Post by vin on Oct 12, 2015 0:16:52 GMT -5
If the Mets have a big lead late in the 6th(since we don't know how far Harvey will go) with 2 outs and no one on base, I see Harvey delivering the justice on Utley if he's there. If not Harvey, then the other bullpen guys. Would you be ok with that? No, because the real punishment should've occurred in Game 2 where Utley should've been called for INTERFERENCE and therefore be an automatic DP! Anything else afterward is simply retaliation against Chase for being a dick.
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Post by sackdance on Oct 12, 2015 7:53:17 GMT -5
If the Mets have a big lead late in the 6th(since we don't know how far Harvey will go) with 2 outs and no one on base, I see Harvey delivering the justice on Utley if he's there. If not Harvey, then the other bullpen guys. Would you be ok with that? Walk Utley and have an infielder peg him on the basepaths, preferably on the way to 2nd. That was preferred retribution before the TV era. Ty Cobb probably dealt with it weekly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 8:45:41 GMT -5
Is someone gonna hit him? If the Mets have a big lead late in the 6th(since we don't know how far Harvey will go) with 2 outs and no one on base, I see Harvey delivering the justice on Utley if he's there. If not Harvey, then the other bullpen guys. So then that's ok, fine with me because it's baseball and until a rule is implemented it's just fine with me just like Utley.
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Post by vin on Oct 12, 2015 8:45:51 GMT -5
And if that woman didn't dress so provocatively, she wouldn't have been "attacked". See what I did there? Blaming the victim of a CRYSTAL-CLEAR-AS-DAY Dirty slide is just absolutely absurd. Like Ruben expected Utley(or any baserunner) to come directly at him while over a FOOT away from the bag(and not even touching it nor making any effort to slide until he's right on top of him)....Please don't sell that shit here, Hawk. You're sounding a little bit like a Utley apologist here. And as far as the suspension goes, meh. I could care less about the suspension. That should've been an AUTOMATIC DP due to his BLATANT INTERFERENCE!!! THE END. Okay, bad comparison, I admit. But the point I was trying to make is you're blaming Tejada for getting hurt by basically getting into position to throw the ball like any baseball player would. That annoys me a lot. Did you see the rule I posted earlier on in this thread? The Hampur is not the place of choice where I go hang out and discuss baseball, Hawk. Where I go, there are many who have more knowledge of the game and it's from them that I channel my outrage at this farce. They said it was and should of been interference PLUS the Umps weren't enforcing the actual rules in baseball anyway(that's what they said, too). Here's some more rules(that aren't being followed apparently) : 5.09 Making an Out (a) (6.05) Retiring the Batter
A batter is out when: […]
A preceding runner shall, in the umpire’s judgment, intentionally interfere with a fielder who is attempting to catch a thrown ball or to throw a ball in an attempt to complete any play
Rule 5.09(a)(13) Comment (Rule 6.05(m) Comment): The objective of this rule is to penalize the offensive team for deliberate, unwarranted, unsportsmanlike action by the runner in leaving the baseline for the obvious purpose of crashing the pivot man on a double play, rather than trying to reach base. Obviously this is an umpire’s judgment play.>>>> The above is from the MLB's own rulebook. (oh and there's no "batted ball" wording for you to counter with this time, Hawk. This makes it 100% obvious that Utley interfered with Tejada, Period.) I'm breathing just fine, thank you. Not in any exact words but you blaming Tejada for turning his back to him when he was attempting to make a throw does make it sound like you're blaming him more than Utley. Well of course. No one goes with a dirty slide into someone else(over a foot away from the bag without even attempting to touch it) is trying to hurt anyone. Did I mention that Utley pulled the same shit on Tejada in 2010 also? He's a piece of shit dirty player and deserves zero excuses. Utley's "hard" slides have injured at least 4 players (Tejada, Stephen Drew, Jesus Flores, Dioner Navarro). Three ended up on stretcher or in the hospital. That fucktard KNOWS what he's doing, knows that it's illegal, and also knows that the MLB Umps won't do shit because they don't have the guts to enforce rules the MLB created to prevent shit like this from happening. I understand plenty. I'm not a baseball guru but I'd like to think I'm well-versed on what is BULLSHIT and what isn't. And trust me...even a Non-baseball fan knows what happened was BULLSHIT. Hell, even TBS Broadcaster Ernie "I only know NBA BASKETBALL" Johnson knew it was Bullshit. and in closing? What is this...a fucking letter? What's "laughable" is the entire MLB and it's Umps ignoring the rules they created to prevent these types of things from occurring. It's a sad state of affairs when fans(like you) tell me that players should expect slides "a hell of a lot further from the base" like that. I would say that the rules need to be tweaked to force players to have to begin their slide at least 3 feet before the bag before trying anything else but as I said before, the Umps aren't enforcing the rules they already have in place so... *sigh* The whole situation is pathetic.
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Oct 12, 2015 8:49:43 GMT -5
Torre caved to public sentiment. That's unfortunate. The truth of the matter is that he is suspended because Tejada's leg is hurt. Not because the slide is illegal. Not saying Utley is blameless, he shoulders 99% of the blame, but if Tejada doesn't turn his back to the play, he likely isn't hurt. How many games was Coghlan suspended for breaking the Pirates SS leg? I missed Daniel Murphys suspension after the Dodgers/Mets series after a take out slide 3 feet outside the bag. You called that a slide? Seriously? He started his take out move when he was about even with the bag on the back side. Umps blew the call, should've been interference. Mets need to get back at LA by winning the next two games. Next year they can take Utley down.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 8:51:35 GMT -5
Torre caved to public sentiment. That's unfortunate. The truth of the matter is that he is suspended because Tejada's leg is hurt. Not because the slide is illegal. Not saying Utley is blameless, he shoulders 99% of the blame, but if Tejada doesn't turn his back to the play, he likely isn't hurt. How many games was Coghlan suspended for breaking the Pirates SS leg? I missed Daniel Murphys suspension after the Dodgers/Mets series after a take out slide 3 feet outside the bag. You called that a slide? Seriously? He started his take out move when he was about even with the bag on the back side. Umps blew the call, should've been interference. Mets need to get back at LA by winning the next two games. Next year they can take Utley down. And Offense can't use their hands............in PAL.
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Oct 12, 2015 8:51:39 GMT -5
Is someone gonna hit him? MLB is trying to have the hearing prior to the game tomorrow. MLB doesn't want anything to do with him being on the field in NY.I can't imagine why...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 8:53:37 GMT -5
MLB is trying to have the hearing prior to the game tomorrow. MLB doesn't want anything to do with him being on the field in NY.I can't imagine why... I wish the NY fan brought this attitude to Jets games, ass backwards.
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Post by jetstream23 on Oct 12, 2015 13:15:19 GMT -5
Let's hope Harvey doesn't go knucklehead tonight and bean him in the 2nd inning. Although, when we get to Harvey's 60th pitch......
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