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Post by HawkeyeJet on Oct 11, 2015 12:16:24 GMT -5
Fucking miserable night. Started at the United Center watching the Isles fail to show up against the Blackhawks. Down 3-0 in the 3rd, with 5 minutes left, Isles take two penalties and have a 2 minute 5 on 3 coming up, decided it was time to head over to a bar and catch the end of the Met game. Get their in time for the bottom of the 6th, feeling pretty good, Thor gets the double play to end the 6th. I just got a bad feeling in the 7th after the walk when I saw Utley coming up. How the fuck does mlb award him the base. Neither he nor Tejada touch the base, but he gets awarded the base because if the right no call was made he could have gotten up and taken the base. Newsflash to mlb -- if the correct no call was made, he could have been tagged out. How can they award him the base because of something that could or could not have happened. Made no sense to me last night and it makes even less sense now. Also, if they ruled it was a force play rather than a double play attempt so the neighborhood play does not apply, then how the fuck is Chase motherfucking Utley allowed to take our SS out if he is not breaking up a double play. And, after all that, how in the hell does Addison Reed throw Adrian Gonzalez an 0-2 batting practice fast ball up over the plate. Yes, the Mets got screwed by a bizarre bad call, but, hey ADDISON REED, HOW ABOUT YOU GET THE LAST FUCKING OUT!!! The two pitches he threw to Gonzalez and Turner were bp fastballs up over the plate. Why not just put the ball on a tee for the Dodgers best hitters. Fucking awful Saturday night. And I haven't even mentioned the Bulldogs or Nick Chubb -- just glad that the jets are not playing today. Too much bad karma. End of rant. All of the focus is on the Utley play, but a manager has too move on from that, and Collins not having a Lefty face Gonzalez is basically being ignored because of the Utley play. Very poor from Collins. |
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Post by vin on Oct 11, 2015 14:08:26 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 15:59:58 GMT -5
Shit some of those takeouts from the past make Utley look like a pussy, fair shot plain and simple.
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Post by thebigragu on Oct 11, 2015 17:10:33 GMT -5
They better get it fucking together for tommorow night. Piss poor pitching last night git lucky through 7 i was just waiting for it and it fucking happened. Hope they are as pissed off at themselves as we are
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Post by Lithfan on Oct 11, 2015 18:02:51 GMT -5
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Post by vin on Oct 11, 2015 18:48:23 GMT -5
Shit some of those takeouts from the past make Utley look like a pussy, fair shot plain and simple. It's a different fucking game now. Who cares about Takeouts from the past(where no one gave a shit about player safety)? Tejada's career could be over. His LIVELIHOOD could be lost. Nothing "fair" or "plain and simple" about that dirty play....  |
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Post by vin on Oct 11, 2015 18:50:01 GMT -5
^ Just stick to winning Game 3, Matt. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 20:17:44 GMT -5
^ Just stick to winning Game 3, Matt. Nothing has changed, especially with the Mets. |
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Post by Lithfan on Oct 11, 2015 20:18:03 GMT -5
Utley suspended 2 games:  |
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Oct 11, 2015 20:23:05 GMT -5
Torre caved to public sentiment. That's unfortunate.
The truth of the matter is that he is suspended because Tejada's leg is hurt. Not because the slide is illegal.
Not saying Utley is blameless, he shoulders 99% of the blame, but if Tejada doesn't turn his back to the play, he likely isn't hurt.
How many games was Coghlan suspended for breaking the Pirates SS leg? I missed Daniel Murphys suspension after the Dodgers/Mets series after a take out slide 3 feet outside the bag.
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Post by jcappy on Oct 11, 2015 20:55:20 GMT -5
I still just don't understand how he's possibly safe, even after the booth review, without ever touching the base, leaving the base line, interfering, leaving the field...like what the fuck.
If Utley appeals and still plays tomorrow NY will rip him to shreds. Don't want Harvey to hit him - can't afford the ejection or the baserunner. Just want him shamed and that whole goon squad embarrassed out of NY eliminated from the playoffs, karma. Dodger fans cheering when Tejada goes down, booing him as he gets carted off, playing party music over the PA....pathetic. Fuck LA this team has a fire lit under them go out and bury the fuckers.
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Post by vin on Oct 11, 2015 21:17:27 GMT -5
Torre caved to public sentiment. That's unfortunate. The truth of the matter is that he is suspended because Tejada's leg is hurt. Not because the slide is illegal. Not saying Utley is blameless, he shoulders 99% of the blame, but if Tejada doesn't turn his back to the play, he likely isn't hurt. How many games was Coghlan suspended for breaking the Pirates SS leg? I missed Daniel Murphys suspension after the Dodgers/Mets series after a take out slide 3 feet outside the bag. And if that woman didn't dress so provocatively, she wouldn't have been "attacked". See what I did there? Blaming the victim of a CRYSTAL-CLEAR-AS-DAY Dirty slide is just absolutely absurd. Like Ruben expected Utley(or any baserunner) to come directly at him while over a FOOT away from the bag(and not even touching it nor making any effort to slide until he's right on top of him)....Please don't sell that shit here, Hawk. You're sounding a little bit like a Utley apologist here. And as far as the suspension goes, meh. I could care less about the suspension. That should've been an AUTOMATIC DP due to his BLATANT INTERFERENCE!!! THE END. |
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Oct 11, 2015 21:33:07 GMT -5
Torre caved to public sentiment. That's unfortunate. The truth of the matter is that he is suspended because Tejada's leg is hurt. Not because the slide is illegal. Not saying Utley is blameless, he shoulders 99% of the blame, but if Tejada doesn't turn his back to the play, he likely isn't hurt. How many games was Coghlan suspended for breaking the Pirates SS leg? I missed Daniel Murphys suspension after the Dodgers/Mets series after a take out slide 3 feet outside the bag. And if that woman didn't dress so provocatively, she wouldn't have been "attacked". See what I did there? Blaming the victim of a CRYSTAL-CLEAR-AS-DAY Dirty slide is just absolutely absurd. Like Ruben expected Utley(or any baserunner) to come directly at him while over a FOOT away from the bag(and not even touching it nor making any effort to slide until he's right on top of him)....Please don't sell that shit here, Hawk. You're sounding a little bit like a Utley apologist here. And as far as the suspension goes, meh. I could care less about the suspension. That should've been an AUTOMATIC DP due to his BLATANT INTERFERENCE!!! THE END. What is absurd is comparing a baseball play to women getting raped. Get a fucking clue. I'm not even getting into how you clearly do not understand the rules that do and do not apply to the play. Seriously, take a step back and breathe for fucks sake. I'm not making excuses for Utley. Everyone with half a brain know what he was doing, but also know he wasn't trying to hurt the guy. Then again you just compared the play to women being raped, so maybe I shouldn't expect you to understand anything about it. And in closing, to say Tejada couldn't have possibly expected someone to come in extremely aggressively in that situation is purely laughable. He didn't just start playing Short Stop a week ago. He expects hard slides a hell of a lot further from the base than he got from Utley, |
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Post by ruby2 on Oct 11, 2015 21:37:20 GMT -5
Torre caved to public sentiment. That's unfortunate. The truth of the matter is that he is suspended because Tejada's leg is hurt. Not because the slide is illegal. Not saying Utley is blameless, he shoulders 99% of the blame, but if Tejada doesn't turn his back to the play, he likely isn't hurt. How many games was Coghlan suspended for breaking the Pirates SS leg? I missed Daniel Murphys suspension after the Dodgers/Mets series after a take out slide 3 feet outside the bag. Hawk, I like you as a poster quite a bit but you are out of your fucking element with this one. just be happy as hell you were handed a game. That should be enough. |
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Oct 11, 2015 21:51:15 GMT -5
Torre caved to public sentiment. That's unfortunate. The truth of the matter is that he is suspended because Tejada's leg is hurt. Not because the slide is illegal. Not saying Utley is blameless, he shoulders 99% of the blame, but if Tejada doesn't turn his back to the play, he likely isn't hurt. How many games was Coghlan suspended for breaking the Pirates SS leg? I missed Daniel Murphys suspension after the Dodgers/Mets series after a take out slide 3 feet outside the bag. Hawk, I like you as a poster quite a bit but you are out of your fucking element with this one. just be happy as hell you were handed a game. That should be enough. Come on now. I enjoy your stuff too, but the point is valid. There are dozens upon dozens of plays in baseball all year where a guy isn't trying to slide into the base to break up a double play. I will post the damn screen capture of Murphy sliding 4 feet out of the baseline trying to get Utley if I must. None of those plays end in a suspension. That's just straight up fact. Chris Coghlan did the same damn thing with the same exact outcome and he wasn't suspended. As far as getting handed the game, the tying run was not getting negated. There has been a lot of people on here and on social media posting rules that don't apply to the play. As soon as Murphy's throw drew Tejada off his line, the neighborhood play is no longer existant. Because of that, the only way an automatic double play is potentially granted is if Utley slide outside the baseline to hit Tejada, which he did not. The play may be dirty, but there is no rule about sliding late, and certainly nothing about ruling the runner and the batter out as a result. |
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