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Post by Paradis on Feb 8, 2016 11:14:03 GMT -5
Speaking of Jaylon Smith: That's hard to beleive, his injury happened much later in the year than Todd Gurley and Gurley missed the first 4 weeks of the season. Maybe he could start football activity by the beginning of September, but getting him on the field ready to play is another thing. I refuse to believe he plays in 2016. At best, he can resume football activities in what, sept-oct? what's a team to do - rush him back into action for December? A rookie playing a position like Smith's with no practice time or offseason? Forget it, he's bookshelf material next year. Which is also a reason why I don't think he's selected till well past us at #20... Any GM's seat better be awfully comfy if they plan to burn a first round pick on a guy who won't till 2017 and has at least some risk with recovery. |
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Post by beerfish on Feb 8, 2016 12:43:47 GMT -5
That's hard to beleive, his injury happened much later in the year than Todd Gurley and Gurley missed the first 4 weeks of the season. Maybe he could start football activity by the beginning of September, but getting him on the field ready to play is another thing. I refuse to believe he plays in 2016. At best, he can resume football activities in what, sept-oct? what's a team to do - rush him back into action for December? A rookie playing a position like Smith's with no practice time or offseason? Forget it, he's bookshelf material next year. Which is also a reason why I don't think he's selected till well past us at #20... Any GM's seat better be awfully comfy if they plan to burn a first round pick on a guy who won't till 2017 and has at least some risk with recovery. And that type of team could very well be the jets to be honest. We have a stable front office and coach and finally i do not think these guys are going to be forced to make dumb moves to save their jobs. (like 50% of the league is each year.) I'm not saying we will or should draft him but we are a team that could draft him if the powers that be think he is that good. |
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Post by Paradis on Feb 8, 2016 13:13:08 GMT -5
I refuse to believe he plays in 2016. At best, he can resume football activities in what, sept-oct? what's a team to do - rush him back into action for December? A rookie playing a position like Smith's with no practice time or offseason? Forget it, he's bookshelf material next year. Which is also a reason why I don't think he's selected till well past us at #20... Any GM's seat better be awfully comfy if they plan to burn a first round pick on a guy who won't till 2017 and has at least some risk with recovery. And that type of team could very well be the jets to be honest. We have a stable front office and coach and finally i do not think these guys are going to be forced to make dumb moves to save their jobs. (like 50% of the league is each year.) I'm not saying we will or should draft him but we are a team that could draft him if the powers that be think he is that good. It's true, I thought the same. It'd either have to be a team like us or ATL who have new but stable front office/coaching OR a team without dire immediate needs, ie. KC, DEN, NE etc.... I'd be OK with it, i guess. But some guys like Elliot, Lynch, Wentz, Jack, Coleman etc would have to be gone. Other thing that I don't like is, we don't know where we'll be next year in terms of roster needs and such. It's unlikely someone of Smith's talents would become suddenly redundant in a years time but still. |
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Post by ryu79 on Feb 8, 2016 23:07:31 GMT -5
Does anyone around the league have a killer olb excess and need a dl in the mo wilkerson mold?
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Post by shakin on Feb 8, 2016 23:25:19 GMT -5
Myles Jack will be gone by all reports. Jaylon Smith possible but injured Leonard Floyd, some people don't like how thin he is. Darron Lee? Don't know much about him, cbs sports compared him to shazier. Jordan Jenkins? 2nd rounder maybe more of an all around guy than pass rusher? Josh Perry? Noah Spence? Large character risk. Victor Ochi? Small school, small guy gamble? Anyone have a pet prospect for pass rusher olb? ok dude admit it you made up all those fucking names seriously, myles jack? common mark cannizaro will tell us who to draft in between cannolis. it's a process |
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Post by tinstar on Feb 9, 2016 10:13:05 GMT -5
Does anyone around the league have a killer olb excess and need a dl in the mo wilkerson mold? Denver does.
Von Miller, Ware and my boy Shane Ray
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Post by maury77 on Feb 9, 2016 10:21:11 GMT -5
Does anyone around the league have a killer olb excess and need a dl in the mo wilkerson mold? Denver does.
Von Miller, Ware and my boy Shane Ray
And there is a decent chance they cut ties with Ware, who we probably won't be able to afford if we sign Mo. |
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Post by tinstar on Feb 9, 2016 10:22:46 GMT -5
What is the general feeling about Dadi Nicolas
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Post by beerfish on Feb 9, 2016 10:30:14 GMT -5
What is the general feeling about Dadi Nicolas They were talking him up a bit during senior bowl week (or was it shrine week)? I thought he looked craptacular in the few glimpses I had of him. |
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Post by cmart on Mar 25, 2016 17:31:07 GMT -5
The 2015 NFL Draft was loaded with edge rushers. We saw players like Vic Beasley, Shane Ray. Dante Fowler all go very high. There was depth at the position last year also as clubs were getting talented pass rushers into the middle rounds of the draft. Such is not the case this year. While the pass rushing talent isn’t what we saw a year ago, the defensive tackle class is huge. That happens every year, as there are some positions that just have more talent than others.
Emmanuel Ogbah – Oklahoma State
I could have very easily put Ogbah in the 4-3 defensive end group, but after his Combine performance, many of the 3-4 clubs are looking at Ogbah as a potential outside linebacker on base downs and as a pass rusher on pass downs.
At 6’3 – 273, Ogbah has position versatility. His Combine numbers were excellent, running the 40 in 4.63, leaping 35 ½” in the vertical, 10’1” in the long jump and a quick 7.26 in the 3-cone. Ogbah is a natural pass rusher with 28 career sacks. He has the hand use and redirect skills that all good pass rushers have.
As good as Ogbah has played, he has moments where he doesn’t consistently play to that high level. Because of that he will be most likely drafted in the bottom half of the first round. If he gets with the right team, he could put up some big numbers as a pro.
Shilique Calhoun – Michigan State
Calhoun played down as a 4-3 defensive end at Michigan State. While he can play that position in the NFL, I feel that he will get a strong look form each of the 3-4 teams. Calhoun is easily athletic enough to play on his feet and looked good dropping into coverage at both the Combine and the Michigan State Pro Day.
Calhoun didn’t run as well as anticipated (4.82) but he showed exceptional quickness and change of direction. With his quickness he plays much faster than he times. Calhoun lacks great size (251) and I doubt he can get bigger than 260 so OLB may be the better position for him at the next level. One thing is certain, on pass downs he will be rushing the passer and that’s what he does best. He can use his hands and has a variety of moves.
Jordan Jenkins – Georgia
Jenkins is one of my favorite players in this draft. While teammate Leonard Floyd gets all the recognition, Jenkins is the guy who does the dirty work and makes plays.
Jenkins didn’t waited until his pro day to show what kind of athlete he is. He measured 6’3 – 259 and ran a 4.77. He also leaped 38” in the vertical jump, 10’3’ in the long jump and had a 7.41 3-cone.
On tape, Jenkins plays with strength but he didn’t show top strength when he lifted (16 reps). He is a high motor guy who makes plays and is consistent player versus the run and can rush the passer. He is the type of player that will be a better pro than a collegian.
Yannick Ngakoue – Maryland
Ngakoue has had 19.5 sacks the last two seasons at Maryland. Added 45 quarterback pressures. He’s a very good athlete with quickness and explosion. Yannick is a pass rusher first and that takes him out of some plays because he gets undisciplined. He also has to improve upon his awareness in coverage but the traits are there. Will most likely be a designated pass rusher early on while he learns the NFL game.
My Bonus Sleeper Candidate
Tyrone Holmes – Montana
Holmes was not invited to the Combine and took part in the University of Montana Pro Day on March 21st. Holmes measured 6024 – 253 and ran 4.62. He also had a 37 ½” vertical jump and a 9’5” long jump. His agility drills were very good also going 7.12 in the 3-cone and 4.28 in the 20 yard shuttle. To top things off he put up 28 reps of 225.
Holmes has excellent pass rush ability, he finished the season with 87 total tackles including 24 tackles for loss and 18 sacks! He finished his career with 34.5 sacks. Holmes lacks ideal defensive end size and is more suited to play outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. He has an explosive first step but he does have a tendency to get tall. He closes off a block very well. With his pro day numbers, he is sure to gather a lot of attention in the next few weeks and will most likely have a number of private workouts in the coming weeks.
The Top 4 Edge Rushers in the 2016 NFL Draft | National Football Post
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Post by tinstar on Mar 27, 2016 21:03:42 GMT -5
I like Jordan Jenkins a lot . While I was looking at Floyd, Jenkins was the player making the plays and setting the edge . He's a lot like Mauldin in my estimation .
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