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Post by Paradis on Feb 25, 2016 15:36:41 GMT -5
Mac didn't do a good job of shooting down trade rumors... that discussion is for another topic.
If a trade did happen, what you prefer?
A) use picks to select OLB N. Spence & RB E. Elliot
Or
B) Trade picks to move up and select QB C. Wentz.... (i picked Wentz b/c it seems most prefer him)
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Post by Stark on Feb 25, 2016 16:30:30 GMT -5
I am unsure about trading Mo. I like the idea of Spence and Elliot. But.. If Wentz is really everything the F.O. is looking for and is the guy they believe will be able to start at a high level for the next 10 years you have to go with Wentz.
I am undecided leaning towards Wentz only because its a QB and offensively driven league. What if they trade Mo for a first and get Wentz and Elliot?
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Post by Touchable on Feb 25, 2016 17:10:25 GMT -5
B
I really like Lynch and Goff, but IMO Wentz is the one who has the potential to be something truly special.
Spence and Elliott is a nice haul, but it won't mean dick in the grand scheme of things if we're still trotting out nobodies behind center.
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Post by Touchable on Feb 25, 2016 17:11:38 GMT -5
What if they trade Mo for a first and get Wentz and Elliot? Then I'd blow Macc Daddy until the sun burns out |
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Post by maury77 on Feb 25, 2016 22:38:53 GMT -5
I'd only take option B if it were Goff
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Post by beerfish on Feb 26, 2016 11:07:19 GMT -5
Pretty tough decision. I love the potential of Elliot and spence (though my character concerns are well documented) however if they think the Qb is indeed a 10-12 year really good starter then you have to take QB.
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Post by jetstream23 on Feb 27, 2016 3:31:51 GMT -5
What if.....Petty is a starting caliber QB for the second half of 2016 or start of 2017? Moving Mo to get Spence while keeping a DLine of Richardson, Snacks, Leo + adding E. Elliot would be pretty a damn nice setup. And, that's lots of talented youth on the roster.
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Post by razorjet on Feb 27, 2016 8:47:29 GMT -5
Goff makes decisions like a pre pubescent teen. Not a good choice.
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Post by Touchable on Feb 27, 2016 14:07:49 GMT -5
What if.....Petty is a starting caliber QB for the second half of 2016 or start of 2017? Moving Mo to get Spence while keeping a DLine of Richardson, Snacks, Leo + adding E. Elliot would be pretty a damn nice setup. And, that's lots of talented youth on the roster. That's a huge if Right now, I have no expectations of Petty. If he turns into something, great. But right now, I'm assuming he'll ultimately be nothing more than a career backup just like 95% of the other QB's drafted in the 4th round. |
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Post by Paradis on Feb 27, 2016 19:35:15 GMT -5
What if.....Petty is a starting caliber QB for the second half of 2016 or start of 2017? Moving Mo to get Spence while keeping a DLine of Richardson, Snacks, Leo + adding E. Elliot would be pretty a damn nice setup. And, that's lots of talented youth on the roster. you're really pulling for him, hey |
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Post by jetstream23 on Feb 28, 2016 0:40:16 GMT -5
What if.....Petty is a starting caliber QB for the second half of 2016 or start of 2017? Moving Mo to get Spence while keeping a DLine of Richardson, Snacks, Leo + adding E. Elliot would be pretty a damn nice setup. And, that's lots of talented youth on the roster. you're really pulling for him, hey Aren't we all? I guess I'm not as big of a fan as others are of simply taking lots of unknown prospects before finding out what we really have. Sure, let's say we re-sign Fitz for 2 years....we take Paxton Lynch in this Draft and put him on the bench with Petty. I assume you'd want to draft another QB in 2017, correct? We then have 3 unknowns lined up behind Fitz as we let him roll off the team? I just don't understand why we want all these unknown rookies stockpiled without seeing them play? |
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Post by tinstar on Feb 28, 2016 10:11:09 GMT -5
you're really pulling for him, hey Aren't we all? I guess I'm not as big of a fan as others are of simply taking lots of unknown prospects before finding out what we really have. Sure, let's say we re-sign Fitz for 2 years....we take Paxton Lynch in this Draft and put him on the bench with Petty. I assume you'd want to draft another QB in 2017, correct? We then have 3 unknowns lined up behind Fitz as we let him roll off the team? I just don't understand why we want all these unknown rookies stockpiled without seeing them play? I guess the simple answer to that would be what the Coach said .
"On this Jet team, you earn your playing time" . If the coaching staff don't see what they want to see on the practice field, you don't get to play in games. If Petty proves that he needs to be on the field in regular season games, he will get his shot. The Packers released Brett Favre for Aaron Rodgers. Our starting QB is a journeyman who has trouble throwing the ball deep . His backup is supposedly a cancer and hated by his teammates . What exactly is keeping Petty from moving up the depth Chart of the Jets QB rankings ?
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Post by Paradis on Feb 28, 2016 10:45:23 GMT -5
you're really pulling for him, hey Aren't we all? I guess I'm not as big of a fan as others are of simply taking lots of unknown prospects before finding out what we really have. Sure, let's say we re-sign Fitz for 2 years....we take Paxton Lynch in this Draft and put him on the bench with Petty. I assume you'd want to draft another QB in 2017, correct? We then have 3 unknowns lined up behind Fitz as we let him roll off the team? I just don't understand why we want all these unknown rookies stockpiled without seeing them play? That's the company line in theory. We ought to all get behind all 53 and give them a chance to grow... The issue with Petty is a position specific though. CBs, RBs, OTs, etc -- they all get some exposure on sunday. Not QBs... which means the coaching staff has to make an all or nothing assessment - and that's reflected in the manner these kids are drafted. Petty (or any QB in the 4th and beyond) isn;'t drafted with an agenda to be the starting QB. If it happens, great.... but unless he starts lighting it up in practice and preseason (of which he's done neither) you can't stop looking for the most important position in the game. I and the rest of Jet nation expect more than just hanging your laurels on that kind of future. There's a dozen Petty's every year who dissipate into obscurity. In our case, we ought to have 2 in the bullpen all the time until the solution for our franchise QB emerges. Draft one this year, and let Petty compete. I guess the question I want to ask people is: Why does you guys like Petty so much? It's not like we have a huge Baylor alumni base here. he's 6'4, white, and has an arm? Is that enough? Cause his play hasn't earned the checks you guys are cashing on his behalf right now. |
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Post by maury77 on Feb 28, 2016 11:36:21 GMT -5
Aren't we all? I guess I'm not as big of a fan as others are of simply taking lots of unknown prospects before finding out what we really have. Sure, let's say we re-sign Fitz for 2 years....we take Paxton Lynch in this Draft and put him on the bench with Petty. I assume you'd want to draft another QB in 2017, correct? We then have 3 unknowns lined up behind Fitz as we let him roll off the team? I just don't understand why we want all these unknown rookies stockpiled without seeing them play? That's the company line in theory. We ought to all get behind all 53 and give them a chance to grow... The issue with Petty is a position specific though. CBs, RBs, OTs, etc -- they all get some exposure on sunday. Not QBs... which means the coaching staff has to make an all or nothing assessment - and that's reflected in the manner these kids are drafted. Petty (or any QB in the 4th and beyond) isn;'t drafted with an agenda to be the starting QB. If it happens, great.... but unless he starts lighting it up in practice and preseason (of which he's done neither) you can't stop looking for the most important position in the game. I and the rest of Jet nation expect more than just hanging your laurels on that kind of future. There's a dozen Petty's every year who dissipate into obscurity. In our case, we ought to have 2 in the bullpen all the time until the solution for our franchise QB emerges. Draft one this year, and let Petty compete. I guess the question I want to ask people is: Why does you guys like Petty so much? It's not like we have a huge Baylor alumni base here. he's 6'4, white, and has an arm? Is that enough? Cause his play hasn't earned the checks you guys are cashing on his behalf right now. Agreed 100%. Petty checks off a lot of the boxes in what we want to see in a franchise QB (smart, good arm, good character, good size), but I have to be honest, I just never loved his tape coming out of Baylor and, at 24, he was already an older prospect coming out. |
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Post by Touchable on Feb 28, 2016 12:24:47 GMT -5
And now Spence runs a 4.80 and a 4.86 on his 2nd attempt
Couple that with his character concerns...and yeah...I'm going with option B all day, everyday.
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