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Bernie Sanders' policies would only hurt the rich?

I know you know that isn't true. Small business owners like myself (as well as my employees) would become extinct if Bernie were able to implement his desires.

Trump's idiot supporters are getting the attention, but those that follow Sanders are no less ignorant or extreme. Different flavors, but still stupid.

Pretty interesting considering you haven't clue one on the nature of my business. You think the business climate is similar to Europe? LOLZ.

My only reason to not panic is that I know there's no chance of a Bernie presidency. Even if he were able to pull it off, he'd be stonewalled for 4 years.

I assure you, with the ideas he's jockeying about, I would be forced to close my business or sell. And to sell with that looming would mean I would have to sell at a fraction of its actual current value. Bye, bye life savings. He's more clueless than the current POTUS when it comes to small business.

I'll share a little story with you. This business is small, and we are not required to offer health insurance at our size. We do however, because we believe it to not only be responsible, but allows us to compete for key talent with larger companies. At our scale, the quality of our staff is paramount. Just hired a guy who was a huge get for us. He paid him above market rate plus offered health insurance. He took the job and quickly realized that the premiums (with the best plan we could find) were too much for him ($2000/month for him, wife, 2 older kids) to afford at his salary. And because we offer it, he's not eligible for subsidies. So the exchange is a worse option for him. So now, a guy who would have an insurance plan, has decided to risk it and pay the fine with no insurance. I'm sure he's actively seeking employment elsewhere at a large company, where the pool of employees lowers the premiums. His salary will be less there, but his net will be more after insurance. Meanwhile, we're screwed because we can't retain him, and he's screwed if he gets sick. ay to go DC, you've created a new pool of people left out in the cold. And you've successfully made it tougher for the local small guys to compete with the Walmarts of the world, the very ones you proclaim to be the devil. Dumb shits.

Like I've been saying, I'm just looking forward to it all burning down at this point. Gonna listen to the band as this ship sinks.

I have alot of experience with small business.  In my experience, most small business owners have a surplus of enthusiasm and a massive deficit of common sense smarts, skills or intelligence.  

Which is why they fail so often and so spectacularly.

I'll presume you're one of the 0.01% who actually know what they're doing, and if so, you'll be fine.

You're right, I have no idea what your business specifically is, as you've not said.  Not do I care, particularly, the specifics are small thinking.  What I know that if it's well run and organized it'll be perfectly fine under Bernie, or Hillary or any other Democrat.  Fear mongering about extinctions of small business of the weakest forum of unsupported hyperbole.  Your massive competitors will be the ones to take the brunt of it, whose profits will be eaten into, who will have to offer proper wages for proper work, etc.  You, that small, will continue to be excluded from almost any negative, as tiny business so often is.  You'll be on a more even footing.

Your story about Healthcare is fine, as it is, but Bernie supports Universal single-payor healthcare.  I.e. it's no longer your problem as employer to provide it, and in exchange you might (but doubful) have to pay a tiny fraction more taxes.  If you're as small as you claim, you almost assuredly pay nothing less, but lose the expense.  So you will compete only on the quality of your business (which I hope you'd win) and the salary you can provide (which you will lose almost assuredly every time always to the big boys).  Your inability to provide your workers with quality healthcare will no longer be a factor.  Sounds like you just argued my side, thank you.

People shouldn't be tied to the healthcare their employers choose to offer, or that they can afford, or that right wingers think is "holy".  Care for one, care for all, and the rich can choose to buy more if they like.  Just like Europe, it works well there, will work well here, if American voters can stop thinking about fear and start voting their own economic interests.

So you're not in the 0.01%, thats too bad.

I'm sorry, it's impossible to have an actual serious discussion with someone who doesn't live in the real world and bemoans utterly fantastic doom and gloom.

If paying your employees a livable wage means you go out of business, well, you should probably get your resume ready.  Your exploitation of the proletariat will be coming to an end. 

lmao...thats when i lost it...

I prefer Collectivist.  One should not limit themselves to socialism, the State ownership of the means of production.  The State, as an extension of societal will, can and should control so much more.

All people working together for the betterment of the collective.  That's the goal.  And be assured, it IS the future.  

Those who would work counter to that betterment will have to be re-educated on what it means to be a member of the a society, of a collective.


 

...I don't care what anyone says that's funny right there...