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Post by Peebag on Apr 24, 2016 20:31:34 GMT -5
If you have a penis, use the men's room.
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Post by Hotman on Apr 24, 2016 22:15:31 GMT -5
also....are we going to be checking IDs at restrooms now? THe whole thing is unworkable. it's freaking stupid. If ya gotta go, just fuckin go. seriously this shit is so fuckin dumb. defecate and GTFO
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Post by Ff2 on Apr 25, 2016 8:59:09 GMT -5
If you have a penis, use the men's room. Sounds good. But that puts this person in the little girls room.
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Post by Peebag on Apr 25, 2016 9:17:09 GMT -5
If you have a penis, use the men's room. Sounds good. But that puts this person in the little girls room. How come you know so much about gay porn?
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Post by Ff2 on Apr 25, 2016 15:18:57 GMT -5
Sounds good. But that puts this person in the little girls room. How come you know so much about gay porn? I'm from North Carolina.
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Post by DDNYjets on Apr 25, 2016 15:34:55 GMT -5
This is all bullshit. Its a mental disorder. But we dont call it that bc of all the PC nonsense. When a woman gets multiple surgeries to make herself look like a cat we call her crazy. When Sammy Sosa and Lil Kim get their skin bleached to look white we call them crazy.
There is a reason why the suicide rates are so high amongst these people. And it isnt societies fault. Society is just a convenient scapegoat.
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Post by Ff2 on Apr 25, 2016 16:09:50 GMT -5
All I know is if I see Curt Shilling in the mens room I'm peeing down his leg.
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Post by Ff2 on Apr 25, 2016 16:10:09 GMT -5
This is all bullshit. Its a mental disorder. But we dont call it that bc of all the PC nonsense. When a woman gets multiple surgeries to make herself look like a cat we call her crazy. When Sammy Sosa and Lil Kim get their skin bleached to look white we call them crazy. There is a reason why the suicide rates are so high amongst these people. And it isnt societies fault. Society is just a convenient scapegoat. I know you're probably a trained psychologist but do some reading. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoriaEvidence suggests that people who identify with a gender different from the one they were assigned at birth, may do so not just due to psychological or behavioral causes, but also biological ones related to their genetics, the makeup of their brains, or prenatal exposure to hormones.
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Post by Hotman on Apr 25, 2016 16:19:28 GMT -5
The older gentry of this message board are all certainly in quite the flagellant stir today, and while I must say that I as a heterosexual, sane, man, do agree largely with the base foundation of the premise of the arguments that they appear to be attempting to put forth, I must say that they are most convoluted in manner, and I can only positively attribute their grossly and overly apparent declination in mental function to what most definitely would be a striking diminution of neuron density in the pre-frontal cortex, when compared, let's say, to that of a healthy young man.
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Post by flushingjet on Apr 25, 2016 18:49:15 GMT -5
The older gentry of this message board are all certainly in quite the flagellant stir today, and while I must say that I as a heterosexual, sane, man, do agree largely with the base foundation of the premise of the arguments that they appear to be attempting to put forth, I must say that they are most convoluted in manner, and I can only positively attribute their grossly and overly apparent declination in mental function to what most definitely would be a striking diminution of neuron density in the pre-frontal cortex, when compared, let's say, to that of a healthy young man. Can I get a translation of that?
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Post by Jetworks on Apr 25, 2016 19:05:42 GMT -5
You're completely missing the point. Honestly, I'm having a hard time believing you aren't trolling me at this point, but I'll keep at it nonetheless. It's impeding on my rights by forcing me to accept the possibility of peeing next to a person of another GENDER, not next to a person who FEELS they are another gender. That's significant. It's not about LOOKING like someone, it's BEING someone. And when you really do simplify this, as is the case in the restroom, you LOOK and ARE who you are, get it? So really, you should use the restroom of who you look like without clothes on, not who you dress up as. Seems like a reasonable thing to do. I mean, I walk into work everyday and get called "doctor" by plenty of patients, but I'm a nurse. I don't try to hide that fact, nor do I let the belief persist on their part through any deception, unsaid or otherwise. Legalities aside, it's immoral. Just because I LOOK like a doctor shouldn't change that, even if it's convenient to ignore it at the time. We peed next to transgenders, presumably, of the same gender. If a West Village Halloween parade walked into the bathroom when I was in there and proceeded to all hit the urinals, couldn't care less. All of them pop a squat? I have an issue with that, which is all this should be about. No morals, no holier than thous, no judgements; I should not have to share private space with the opposite sex in a bathroom. Civil liberties and such. Think this is complicated? Imagine the horrors of folding in HIPAA into this when trying to room a transgender person with a patient of the same sex with which they identify. Yea. I really am trying to understand, I respect your opinions. I think it's just an honest difference of opinion. I think I know you well enough to know you aren't making a moral argument. Im not seeing the big deal of using the facilities with someone with differing gender, whether in feelings or biology. do you really care who is in the adjacent stall? Was it a concern a month ago? and no one has yet to adress the issue of female to male transgenders forced to use the ladies room. Talk about unintended consequences. also....are we going to be checking IDs at restrooms now? THe whole thing is unworkable. You're not seeing the big deal, I am. That's the point, it's the people not seeing the big deal who seem to be guiding this. I have an issue with it and that doesn't matter from what I understand, whether my reason for it be moral or otherwise (as if the former is some kind of horrible position, mind you). Peebag hit the nail on the head when he said, if you have a penis, use the men's room, even if your penis was made in an OR. Seems pretty simple. As for the IDs; we trust people to conduct themselves in a particular manner as dictated by societal norms and mores. Often, those line up with laws and morals, so when you don't abide by them, there are usually penalties in the form of ostracizing, fines, arrest/jail, lawsuits, or termination from employment. So, it seems pretty clear to me that if you get caught with your junk in the wrong restroom, expect repercussions. That's workable. Unless, #hurtfeelings are at stake* *they are, no one wants to classify this as that, though
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Post by Hotman on Apr 25, 2016 19:42:05 GMT -5
Can I get a translation of that? LOL well played... but do you have any idea how long that would take me?
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Post by Ff2 on Apr 25, 2016 20:53:49 GMT -5
I really am trying to understand, I respect your opinions. I think it's just an honest difference of opinion. I think I know you well enough to know you aren't making a moral argument. Im not seeing the big deal of using the facilities with someone with differing gender, whether in feelings or biology. do you really care who is in the adjacent stall? Was it a concern a month ago? and no one has yet to adress the issue of female to male transgenders forced to use the ladies room. Talk about unintended consequences. also....are we going to be checking IDs at restrooms now? THe whole thing is unworkable. You're not seeing the big deal, I am. That's the point, it's the people not seeing the big deal who seem to be guiding this. I have an issue with it and that doesn't matter from what I understand, whether my reason for it be moral or otherwise (as if the former is some kind of horrible position, mind you). Peebag hit the nail on the head when he said, if you have a penis, use the men's room, even if your penis was made in an OR. Seems pretty simple. As for the IDs; we trust people to conduct themselves in a particular manner as dictated by societal norms and mores. Often, those line up with laws and morals, so when you don't abide by them, there are usually penalties in the form of ostracizing, fines, arrest/jail, lawsuits, or termination from employment. So, it seems pretty clear to me that if you get caught with your junk in the wrong restroom, expect repercussions. That's workable. Unless, #hurtfeelings are at stake* *they are, no one wants to classify this as that, thoughI look forward to new job openings: Junk Checkers. anyhoo, abou time we wrap this up from sheer exhaustion. I sincerely hope you can pee in peace my friend.
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Post by DDNYjets on Apr 26, 2016 6:18:56 GMT -5
This is all bullshit. Its a mental disorder. But we dont call it that bc of all the PC nonsense. When a woman gets multiple surgeries to make herself look like a cat we call her crazy. When Sammy Sosa and Lil Kim get their skin bleached to look white we call them crazy. There is a reason why the suicide rates are so high amongst these people. And it isnt societies fault. Society is just a convenient scapegoat. I know you're probably a trained psychologist but do some reading. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoriaEvidence suggests that people who identify with a gender different from the one they were assigned at birth, may do so not just due to psychological or behavioral causes, but also biological ones related to their genetics, the makeup of their brains, or prenatal exposure to hormones."Make up of their brains, hormones." Sounds mental to me. Tomato. Tomahto. Either way I feel sorry for them. Being so conflicted with yourself to the point of radically changing not only your physical form but your chemical makeup as well. And I dont give a shit what psychologists said. We used to remove people's teeth, remove parts of their brain or shock their brains bc we thought it helped them, lmao. Science is always changing. But I think the science behind this will never be learned bc to even research such a thing is not PC.
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Post by Touchable on Apr 26, 2016 7:29:08 GMT -5
This is all bullshit. Its a mental disorder. But we dont call it that bc of all the PC nonsense. When a woman gets multiple surgeries to make herself look like a cat we call her crazy. When Sammy Sosa and Lil Kim get their skin bleached to look white we call them crazy. There is a reason why the suicide rates are so high amongst these people. And it isnt societies fault. Society is just a convenient scapegoat. I know you're probably a trained psychologist but do some reading. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoriaEvidence suggests that people who identify with a gender different from the one they were assigned at birth, may do so not just due to psychological or behavioral causes, but also biological ones related to their genetics, the makeup of their brains, or prenatal exposure to hormones. It's not a mental issue? Since when did it become considered normal for a man to cut his dick off and dress like a woman? It's absolutely a mental health issue. This would never even cross the mind of a "normal" person. Let's just call them what they are...they're fucking freaks. I don't care if you feel more feminine than masculine...you're still a guy. You don't have female reproductive organs. You don't have a menstrual cycle. You can't give birth to children. You're a man with a couple of balloons stuffed in your chest and a mutiliated cock who likes to wear makeup and dress in women's clothing. Not to mention act in a more feminine manner than most actual females. Sounds pretty fucked in the head to me
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