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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Apr 29, 2016 12:47:06 GMT -5
It's not much of a sample size I know, but so far I'm not getting the warm and fuzzies. Last year Williams fell into his lap so that was a no-brainer. So if you're going to acquire more DL, trade someone, he hasn't been able to do anything with Mo. Was hoping that would net us an early round pick. Oh well. The Devin Smith as his second round pick, looking like a bust. Didn't measure up in talent and undersized so spent a lot of time being hurt and will miss a lot or most of next season. Passed on DBG because of the character risk. I think Mac is not a risk taker at all. OK he didn't want to do it for his second ever pick but it seems this is his nature. Rest of the draft, mostly ok I guess. This year well we've spent tons of time debating Lynch vs Lee. One writer said Lee fits what Mac and Bowles are trying to construct. But who the heck knows what that even is? Wanting to be fast on defense is not a strategy to build a team around. What are they trying to do on the offensive side of the ball? There is no identity and nothing to indicate they are moving towards one. I won't be thrilled with another project QB. Who is the starter, Geno? He has made some good FA acquisitions for low prices but you don't have to be a good scout for that, Idzik managed that too. So far I'm underwhelming and really left with big question marks as to his ability and direction
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Apr 29, 2016 12:56:47 GMT -5
Wanting to be fast on defense is not a strategy to build a team around. I have to respectfully disagree with this assertion.... the NFL in general is getting faster and faster.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Apr 29, 2016 13:09:14 GMT -5
Wanting to be fast on defense is not a strategy to build a team around. I have to respectfully disagree with this assertion.... the NFL in general is getting faster and faster. It's just one aspect. It's enough for a unit not a whole team. What kind of offense is it? This fills me with concern that there is no vision for the offense
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Post by JetBidi on Apr 29, 2016 13:12:26 GMT -5
he hasn't been able to do anything with Mo. Was hoping that would net us an early round pick. Oh well. The Devin Smith as his second round pick, looking like a bust. Not being able to trade Mo was a combination of bad luck... 1. FA lineman getting ridiculous contracts 2. Him breaking his leg last season 3. Draft class whose strongest class is the DL. I wouldn't call Devin Smith a bust just yet. He was open a lot, but the bearded wonder either didn't see him, didn't have the arm to get it to him and looked elsewhere or did try to get it to him but failed woefully. Need a strong armed QB to take advantage of Smith's skill set.
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Post by Peebag on Apr 29, 2016 13:12:36 GMT -5
For last year, I'll give him a B - this coming year if they even sniff the playoffs, an A
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Post by I definitely have a cock~~~ on Apr 29, 2016 13:22:28 GMT -5
so far.. b
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Post by CTJetsFanII on Apr 29, 2016 13:25:34 GMT -5
B. Jury is still out on a lot of moves, but I like the way he's handled things so far. Obviously a lot depends on what they do with their next 3 picks, but I wasn't upset with them passing on Lynch. Time will tell if they were right.
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Post by sadface on Apr 29, 2016 13:27:45 GMT -5
very difficult to gauge the drafts. unfair to call smith a bust, unfair to discredit mac for the leo pick. he could have traded up, down, or worried too much about the injury - but he didn't. if smith doesn't produce this year then the bust label can be applied. and even if petty never sees the field, i'll never fault a GM for digging for gold in the mid-rounds. mauldin looks solid so far, which is all you can expect from a 3rd round pick.
at 20 there were 3 choices - lynch, treadwell (imo), and lee. mac may envision the best of lynch to be no better than the best of petty, and i struggle to disagree. he also may envision the best of hack to be better than either of the two, and again i struggle to disagree. lee is a perfect fit for bowles, was good-to-great value (most had him in the top-15), and fits arguably the biggest need on defense. an OLB would have been a reach, an OL would have been a reach. lee may not have been the most exciting pick, but he will be an exciting player. my hope is that mac can turn these 2nd and 3rd round picks into 2 good players and possibly 1 future pick. but this will be impossible to gauge for at least another 2 years.
easier to gauge the free agency/trades. the marshall and clady trades are tremendous and show that mac will do whatever it takes to maintain picks. he traded low-valued picks for high-valued players and low-valued picks, a net loss of 0 picks but a net gain of a lot of talent. if clady can be 75% of the player he used to be (all-pro), he is a big upgrade for a small cost and well worth the trade - just like marshall was.
forte was a great signing. he adds a dimension to the offense we didn't have before. combine that with the upgraded (if healthy) OL and the offense, in theory, is improved -- assuming the QB play(/er) is consistent (whether its fitz back, or someone else playing at a similar level)
trading wilkerson was never going to be easy, but its still not impossible. he ultimately will net us at least a 3rd round comp pick - not ideal, but the timing is right, now that comp picks can be traded. the jets never had leverage in these trade talks, and though its easy to look at the revis trade and be sad we couldn't do the same with mo, take a look at where mark dominik is now.
so i'll look at tangible results from the moves mac has made. he helped assemble a 10-6 team with a journeyman qb, a stellar trade, a solid draft, and is following it up with a fairly similar offseason (similar trade, good offensive signing). he will have a lot of money to spend next year, especially if harris/revis are moved if they trend downwards this season. i have no reason to lack confidence in mac. i was excited about the idea of lynch, but if he rates him the same as he does hack/cook/petty then holding out til the 2nd round was a no brainer.
now someone poop on my post thanks
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Apr 29, 2016 13:35:41 GMT -5
Wanting to be fast on defense is not a strategy to build a team around. I have to respectfully disagree with this assertion.... the NFL in general is getting faster and faster. 100% agree. It is a strategy, and one I like. If the backbone of your team is a fast, stingy defense, I'm on board. As far as having no offensive identity, that is kind of part of what makes Gailey good. He doesn't have a certain style he is going to be in come hell or high water. Last year their identity was spread you out but be balanced and control the ball in both the running and passing games. Take minimal risk.
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Post by carlito1171 on Apr 29, 2016 13:42:02 GMT -5
I have to respectfully disagree with this assertion.... the NFL in general is getting faster and faster. It's just one aspect. It's enough for a unit not a whole team. What kind of offense is it? This fills me with concern that there is no vision for the offense No identity for the 10th ranked O last year with a career JAG at QB....tough crowd
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Post by carlito1171 on Apr 29, 2016 13:44:48 GMT -5
Too small a sample size to give a convincing grade....lets see how our picks over these 2 years develop. If I had to judge based on what we have ill say a B. I liked the trades. I like our overall approach in FA. It comes down to the draft picks for me and the jury is out on all of them. Calling anyone a bust at this point is pure emotion no thought put into it.
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Post by rangerous on Apr 29, 2016 16:11:59 GMT -5
Too small a sample size to give a convincing grade....lets see how our picks over these 2 years develop. If I had to judge based on what we have ill say a B. I liked the trades. I like our overall approach in FA. It comes down to the draft picks for me and the jury is out on all of them. Calling anyone a bust at this point is pure emotion no thought put into it. totally agree. last season he had a boatload of money and he spent it. he also brought some stability to the front office and revamped the scouting. this season he has wilk's contract hanging and a short term cap issue as well as not signing fitz. his grade depends on how well he gets out of this predicament while still keeping the jets competitive.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Apr 29, 2016 17:29:37 GMT -5
It's not much of a sample size I know, but so far I'm not getting the warm and fuzzies. Last year Williams fell into his lap so that was a no-brainer. So if you're going to acquire more DL, trade someone, he hasn't been able to do anything with Mo. Was hoping that would net us an early round pick. Oh well. The Devin Smith as his second round pick, looking like a bust. Didn't measure up in talent and undersized so spent a lot of time being hurt and will miss a lot or most of next season. Passed on DBG because of the character risk. I think Mac is not a risk taker at all. OK he didn't want to do it for his second ever pick but it seems this is his nature. Rest of the draft, mostly ok I guess. This year well we've spent tons of time debating Lynch vs Lee. One writer said Lee fits what Mac and Bowles are trying to construct. But who the heck knows what that even is? Wanting to be fast on defense is not a strategy to build a team around. What are they trying to do on the offensive side of the ball? There is no identity and nothing to indicate they are moving towards one. I won't be thrilled with another project QB. Who is the starter, Geno? He has made some good FA acquisitions for low prices but you don't have to be a good scout for that, Idzik managed that too. So far I'm underwhelming and really left with big question marks as to his ability and direction Right now he reminds me of a rich man's John Idzik. I am not impressed at all. He's alright bordering on suspect with his picks but we need great. Did not like the Debun Smith pick at all and I do not like yesterday's pick either. Him not being able to trade Mo (yeah, I know it's not easy, but he needed to make that happen). We'll see and I will give him a little more time, but I am not singing his praises and he seems to go for safe and boring. Sorry, we needed better.
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Post by Jet Blast on Apr 29, 2016 17:46:50 GMT -5
You ask this in the middle of a draft where we have made 1 only one out of the 6 picks so far? Really??? Common now.
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Post by jetstream23 on Apr 29, 2016 18:36:15 GMT -5
Get off the pole, VTN! We need a few more rounds to decide if we should start dancin'.
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