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Post by 32Green on Jul 10, 2016 8:05:49 GMT -5
Was truly only trying to enlighten and show a different perspective. Yes, I get emotional when I see un-informed observations, conclusions and assumptions spouted as fact. As I stated when this all started to happen...with the first incident..was that I only knew enough from those vids to know I didnt know enough to draw conclusions and condemn these Officers as examples of widespread racism in LE as our President and many here... did.
As in Ferguson, the real facts are starting to trickle out and cast the "victims" and thus their actions...and the cawps re-actions..in a different light.
The mainstream media has already bought into the Presidents false narrative..sharing their blood-stained hands with him...so they have little incentive to reveal they may have been wrong all along...as in Ferguson. You wont see media at the local police stations or trying to track down investigators..to ascertain what the investigation is showing..but you will see them running breathlessly through BLM crowds with mic's and cameras hoping to "set it off" so they have an incident to report.
Anyhoo, apologies to the butt-hurts here, ultimately I was only trying to give an informed perspective and I guess I over-stepped. Carry on.
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 10, 2016 9:18:33 GMT -5
I was talking about shutting a thread down when it got too heated, which is done quite often here. I don't consider that censorship. Heated? This is the politics forum. Enter at your own risk. Meh, when people start repeating themselves it just becomes ans exercise in futility. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 10, 2016 10:17:37 GMT -5
Was truly only trying to enlighten and show a different perspective. Yes, I get emotional when I see un-informed observations, conclusions and assumptions spouted as fact. As I stated when this all started to happen...with the first incident..was that I only knew enough from those vids to know I didnt know enough to draw conclusions and condemn these Officers as examples of widespread racism in LE as our President and many here... did. As in Ferguson, the real facts are starting to trickle out and cast the "victims" and thus their actions...and the cawps re-actions..in a different light. The mainstream media has already bought into the Presidents false narrative..sharing their blood-stained hands with him...so they have little incentive to reveal they may have been wrong all along...as in Ferguson. You wont see media at the local police stations or trying to track down investigators..to ascertain what the investigation is showing..but you will see them running breathlessly through BLM crowds with mic's and cameras hoping to "set it off" so they have an incident to report. Anyhoo, apologies to the butt-hurts here, ultimately I was only trying to give an informed perspective and I guess I over-stepped. Carry on. I don't think you over stepped. I like hearing your perspective, I know we disagree on things, but I've never doubted your knowledge, and I've learned a lot. I was one who jumped to an opinion on that video, and I was wrong. I believed the first narrative I heard, which was dumb. |
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Post by southparkcpa on Jul 10, 2016 10:33:03 GMT -5
============================================================= You are making quite a few assumptions based on hearsay. I'm white I still get a raised heart rate when pulled over, due to a partially misspent youth I suppose. My parents taught me to respect the police and their authority. Tips to surviving police encounters. Pull over as soon as safely possible when lit up. Keep hands on steering wheel, don't be demonstrative or move around Roll down window at least 1/2 way. Don't be moving around prior to being approached so as the popo doesn't think your trying to hide something or grab a weapon. Be respectful and follow all commands. I've been stopped/question by the police at least 25 times and I am still alive. yes it's because you were so respectful No more presumptuous, than the people who are saying this could have been prevented by the victims behaving better Respectful Like these guys Personally I find it very sad that we need tips to "survive a police encounter" Well... You think about pulling a car over on southern state, BQE, etc... At 1 in the morning. I do not blame these guys one bit for being nervous. The Dallas and MINN events appear pretty bad, agreed. BUT I carry a gun many times. When pulled over I never take my Hans off the wheel. NEVER. Until told to. The kid in MINN properly identified himself as a conceal holder. HE most likely violated his right to carry when he reached for his wallet. The cop probably knew he had a permit even before he told the cop. THe cop appears to be wrong here but who knows. However, had his hands stayed on the wheel like so many have stated...he'd be alive. |
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Post by 32Green on Jul 10, 2016 11:11:43 GMT -5
yes it's because you were so respectful No more presumptuous, than the people who are saying this could have been prevented by the victims behaving better Respectful Like these guys Personally I find it very sad that we need tips to "survive a police encounter" Well... You think about pulling a car over on southern state, BQE, etc... At 1 in the morning. I do not blame these guys one bit for being nervous. The Dallas and MINN events appear pretty bad, agreed. BUT I carry a gun many times. When pulled over I never take my Hans off the wheel. NEVER. Until told to. The kid in MINN properly identified himself as a conceal holder. HE most likely violated his right to carry when he reached for his wallet. The cop probably knew he had a permit even before he told the cop. THe cop appears to be wrong here but who knows. However, had his hands stayed on the wheel like so many have stated...he'd be alive. SPCPA..I want you to think about something for a minute. Where did you hear he was a permit holder? That he told the cawp he was armed and was a permit holder? That he went for his wallet? That they were pulled over for a "tail-light"? From Lavish Reynolds...so far..... she is the only source of info... Below is another of her vids...also with her child in the back seat... This...is the person upon whose word...we are relying...to stain a cop, law enforcement in general...and white people You may not be aware of it..because you are buying into the media spin..the media that wont tell you because they value conflict over truth. You will be amazed when the facts come out..that you bought into any of this. Just saying. |
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Post by 32Green on Jul 10, 2016 11:22:20 GMT -5
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Post by bxjetfan on Jul 10, 2016 12:14:58 GMT -5
yes it's because you were so respectful No more presumptuous, than the people who are saying this could have been prevented by the victims behaving better Respectful Like these guys Personally I find it very sad that we need tips to "survive a police encounter" Well... You think about pulling a car over on southern state, BQE, etc... At 1 in the morning. I do not blame these guys one bit for being nervous. The Dallas and MINN events appear pretty bad, agreed. BUT I carry a gun many times. When pulled over I never take my Hans off the wheel. NEVER. Until told to. The kid in MINN properly identified himself as a conceal holder. HE most likely violated his right to carry when he reached for his wallet. The cop probably knew he had a permit even before he told the cop. THe cop appears to be wrong here but who knows. However, had his hands stayed on the wheel like so many have stated...he'd be alive. Let me be more succinct than 32Green. You're a fuckin idiot. |
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Post by thebigragu on Jul 10, 2016 13:26:04 GMT -5
Harrier - are there guns in UK to hunt with? Is hunting illegal? I'll talk you through how it is here my friend. We recently had a politician killed here, but the shooter made a homemade gun. If I wanted to kill someone I wouldn't have the first clue or who to see to get an illegal weapon,    |
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Post by Harrier on Jul 10, 2016 13:42:09 GMT -5
I'll talk you through how it is here my friend. We recently had a politician killed here, but the shooter made a homemade gun. If I wanted to kill someone I wouldn't have the first clue or who to see to get an illegal weapon, I meant gun meathead. I knows how to kill someone with a baseball bat.  |
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Post by thebigragu on Jul 10, 2016 13:45:49 GMT -5
Nothin needs lockin down. The only shit that needs lockin are when posters start bringing other posters families into it or talkin about kids or somethin like that. This is why the world has become so PC, the minute people start voicing their opinions everyone wants to bury their heads. Nothing gets locked here anymore ever we have no ads no money we go until actual posters are booking flights or driving to other posters houses Which i can not give you the exact address for but i can give you the closest ip address available to their general location. I will be there filming. Carry on pussies |
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Post by Harrier on Jul 10, 2016 13:52:32 GMT -5
Nothin needs lockin down. The only shit that needs lockin are when posters start bringing other posters families into it or talkin about kids or somethin like that. This is why the world has become so PC, the minute people start voicing their opinions everyone wants to bury their heads. Nothing gets locked here anymore ever we have no ads no money we go until actual posters are booking flights or driving to other posters houses Which i can not give you the exact address for but i can give you the closest ip address available to their general location. I will be there filming. Carry on pussies Gonna cost some twat a fortune to pick a bone with me but I promise I will GoPro me and VTN gettin it on. Anyways how's the court case goin? You better be more active when the season starts, someone's gonna need to ball wash Geno. |
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Post by thebigragu on Jul 10, 2016 13:57:45 GMT -5
Nothing gets locked here anymore ever we have no ads no money we go until actual posters are booking flights or driving to other posters houses Which i can not give you the exact address for but i can give you the closest ip address available to their general location. I will be there filming. Carry on pussies Gonna cost some twat a fortune to pick a bone with me but I promise I will GoPro me and VTN gettin it on. Anyways how's the court case goin? You better be more active when the season starts, someone's gonna need to ball wash Geno. My whole life is court. Im down 37 000 to date. Go start a go fund my friend in Britian to help me out. Oh congratz on the exit by the way. About time you bunch of stubborn assholes finally returned to your old form of being total assholes in the worlds face. Something i totally respect |
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Post by Harrier on Jul 10, 2016 14:06:06 GMT -5
Gonna cost some twat a fortune to pick a bone with me but I promise I will GoPro me and VTN gettin it on. Anyways how's the court case goin? You better be more active when the season starts, someone's gonna need to ball wash Geno. My whole life is court. Im down 37 000 to date. Go start a go fund my friend in Britian to help me out. Oh congratz on the exit by the way. About time you bunch of stubborn assholes finally returned to your old form of being total assholes in the worlds face. Something i totally respect Hope you win your boy back Bro, I'm rooting for you. If I ever come into some green I'll wipe that debt for you. Thanks. Fuckin delighted the nation grew a pair again. Empire strikes back. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 10, 2016 14:24:23 GMT -5
Well... You think about pulling a car over on southern state, BQE, etc... At 1 in the morning. I do not blame these guys one bit for being nervous. The Dallas and MINN events appear pretty bad, agreed. BUT I carry a gun many times. When pulled over I never take my Hans off the wheel. NEVER. Until told to. The kid in MINN properly identified himself as a conceal holder. HE most likely violated his right to carry when he reached for his wallet. The cop probably knew he had a permit even before he told the cop. THe cop appears to be wrong here but who knows. However, had his hands stayed on the wheel like so many have stated...he'd be alive. Let me be more succinct than 32Green. You're a fuckin idiot. Now, we're getting somewhere. |
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Jul 10, 2016 14:27:51 GMT -5
Well this escalated rather quickly.
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