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Post by Harrier on Jul 20, 2016 14:18:54 GMT -5
I've seen the effects of war on civilians first hand and it fuckin destroys me to see kids I'm that situation. I played soccer with a few afghan kids and a shitty rubber ball was like a fuckin $1M to them. let me ask you something Harrier.. did you feel bad for the German kids at Dresden who were burned alive by the RAF, after London was bombed for 3 years straight killing thousands of British women and children? Civilians are always casualties of war, I accept that, it doesn't mean we can't spare a bit of sympathy for those caught up in it. It just pisses me off when some armchair warrior gives the no mercy speech when they've probably never seen a dead body in their lives.
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Post by Big L on Jul 20, 2016 14:22:41 GMT -5
So how do you tell the bad ones from the good ones?
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Jul 20, 2016 14:23:36 GMT -5
Question #2 - if you could kill every Radical Islamic Terrorist right now with the push of the button, BUT, 10 Muslim women or kids per terrorist would need to die too, and you had no idea how many terrorists there are... could be 1, could be 1,000... would you push that button?
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Post by DDNYjets on Jul 20, 2016 14:25:03 GMT -5
Killing the actual bad guys. And leaving the "good guys" where they are. Haven't you heard. They're all bad. Hence my use of quotation marks.
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Post by Big L on Jul 20, 2016 14:28:00 GMT -5
Question #2 - if you could kill every Radical Islamic Terrorist right now with the push of the button, BUT, 10 Muslim women or kids per terrorist would need to die too, and you had no idea how many terrorists there are... could be 1, could be 1,000... would you push that button? Depends. Do I get to fuck 1980s Heather Locklear any time I want?
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Jul 20, 2016 14:30:01 GMT -5
Question #2 - if you could kill every Radical Islamic Terrorist right now with the push of the button, BUT, 10 Muslim women or kids per terrorist would need to die too, and you had no idea how many terrorists there are... could be 1, could be 1,000... would you push that button? Depends. Do I get to fuck 1980s Heather Locklear any time I want? No.. you get one BJ from her. One.
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Post by Harrier on Jul 20, 2016 14:34:44 GMT -5
Question #2 - if you could kill every Radical Islamic Terrorist right now with the push of the button, BUT, 10 Muslim women or kids per terrorist would need to die too, and you had no idea how many terrorists there are... could be 1, could be 1,000... would you push that button? Hard question man I'm not gonna shirk the question so I would say yes if it rid the world of EVERY Islamist terrorist. All I'm sayin is Afghanistan left a profound effect on my life, I was there to do a job but felt sorry for a few young kids my kids age caught up in it. I would just like less unrealistic opinions from people who have never smelt the rotting corpse of an innocent person.
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Jul 20, 2016 14:38:32 GMT -5
Question #2 - if you could kill every Radical Islamic Terrorist right now with the push of the button, BUT, 10 Muslim women or kids per terrorist would need to die too, and you had no idea how many terrorists there are... could be 1, could be 1,000... would you push that button? Hard question man I'm not gonna shirk the question so I would say yes if it rid the world of EVERY Islamist terrorist. All I'm sayin is Afghanistan left a profound effect on my life, I was there to do a job but felt sorry for a few young kids my kids age caught up in it. I would just like less unrealistic opinions from people who have never smelt the rotting corpse of an innocent person. Well then, I think you're on the same page with most of us here. We're not sadistic psychos. We all want to grow old, go out with our family and eat a hot dog at the park without the fear of having an enemy drive a truck over us. Like Jets Things said and you agreed with - war is Hell, and it SHOULD be Hell so that we dare not repeat it so often.
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Post by Harrier on Jul 20, 2016 15:16:04 GMT -5
Hard question man I'm not gonna shirk the question so I would say yes if it rid the world of EVERY Islamist terrorist. All I'm sayin is Afghanistan left a profound effect on my life, I was there to do a job but felt sorry for a few young kids my kids age caught up in it. I would just like less unrealistic opinions from people who have never smelt the rotting corpse of an innocent person. Well then, I think you're on the same page with most of us here. We're not sadistic psychos. We all want to grow old, go out with our family and eat a hot dog at the park without the fear of having an enemy drive a truck over us. Like Jets Things said and you agreed with - war is Hell, and it SHOULD be Hell so that we dare not repeat it so often. Listen you're talkin to a man that is all for puttin national security first, it's just our strategy that is flawed sometimes. This "nuke them all" option just doesn't exist anymore IMO, over time that shit grows back and you're back to square one.
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 20, 2016 16:19:16 GMT -5
This is an interesting exercise.
If you could kill every white American mass shooter in the US but 10 innocent Americans would also die, would you do it?
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Post by DDNYjets on Jul 20, 2016 16:32:45 GMT -5
This is an interesting exercise. If you could kill every white American mass shooter in the US but 10 innocent Americans would also die, would you do it? Depends. Can the innocent Americans be non-whites?
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Post by DDNYjets on Jul 20, 2016 16:36:44 GMT -5
The only solution is colonize, take the oil and babysit. Probably about 20k troops needed in the region from now until eternity.
If youre not willing to do that then we can't whine about this shit anymore. The have been fighting for longer than we have even existed. Frankly, they are better suited for a war of attrition.
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 20, 2016 16:37:38 GMT -5
This is an interesting exercise. If you could kill every white American mass shooter in the US but 10 innocent Americans would also die, would you do it? Depends. Can the innocent Americans be non-whites? Nope, and they include some puppies.
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Post by Harrier on Jul 20, 2016 17:10:53 GMT -5
The only solution is colonize, take the oil and babysit. Probably about 20k troops needed in the region from now until eternity. If youre not willing to do that then we can't whine about this shit anymore. The have been fighting for longer than we have even existed. Frankly, they are better suited for a war of attrition. You keep mentioning oil, that's the truth behind it, it's not about helpin people achieve democracy or national security, it's about oil interest and wealth. Iraq, etc even us with the Falklands.
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Post by Big L on Jul 20, 2016 17:36:24 GMT -5
Let's make oil irrelevant, and hence the Middle East irrelevant.
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