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Post by bxjetfan on Jul 20, 2016 17:46:51 GMT -5
If you believe in such a thing. Trump with his words as Hillary and Barry would suggest. or this ... Syria: At least 85 civilians feared dead after US air strike 'mistake'US military confirms it is investigating what could be one of the worst incidents of civilian deaths by coalition forces. This is the Clinton/Obama foreign policy in the Middle East. Trump just has words because he isn't Commander in Chief yet. Do you think the drone pilots aim is gonna get better once Trump gets into office? Accidents/shit happens in war. If/when Trump gets into office more shits gonna happen. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jul 20, 2016 17:51:34 GMT -5
Killing the actual bad guys. And leaving the "good guys" where they are. Haven't you heard. They're all bad. Finally!! It took you long enough but I knew you would come around. |
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Post by Harrier on Jul 20, 2016 17:52:41 GMT -5
If you believe in such a thing. Trump with his words as Hillary and Barry would suggest. or this ... Syria: At least 85 civilians feared dead after US air strike 'mistake'US military confirms it is investigating what could be one of the worst incidents of civilian deaths by coalition forces. This is the Clinton/Obama foreign policy in the Middle East. Trump just has words because he isn't Commander in Chief yet. Do you think the drone pilots aim is gonna get better once Trump gets into office? Accidents/shit happens in war. If/when Trump gets into office more shits gonna happen. He might just press the button. |
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Post by Jetworks on Jul 20, 2016 18:06:24 GMT -5
Question #2 - if you could kill every Radical Islamic Terrorist right now with the push of the button, BUT, 10 Muslim women or kids per terrorist would need to die too, and you had no idea how many terrorists there are... could be 1, could be 1,000... would you push that button? This is an interesting exercise. If you could kill every white American mass shooter in the US but 10 innocent Americans would also die, would you do it? Depends on the morality/philosophy with which you most closely identify. The question is one of utilitarianism, and as one who subscribes to it (and pragmatism to a degree), I would say yes. Now, if you go deeper and ask who is going to push the proverbial button, then that complicates the matter. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jul 20, 2016 18:08:41 GMT -5
The only solution is colonize, take the oil and babysit. Probably about 20k troops needed in the region from now until eternity. If youre not willing to do that then we can't whine about this shit anymore. The have been fighting for longer than we have even existed. Frankly, they are better suited for a war of attrition. I would open up every piece of federal land to drill for natural gas and oil. I would also build enough wind and solar farms to get every level of government energy independent. We spend tons of money on bullshit might as well get something out of it. The price for renewables would come down making it cheaper for homeowners and business. It would also collapse the price of oil and destabilize all those ME countries. Look at what's happening in Venezuela. Oil dropped and their people are real close to starving. Regime change is coming there real soon. The ME countries have better cash reserves and are probably better run, but they are all starting to struggle with lower oil prices. When they can't afford to subsidize shit anymore they will just turn on each other. We won't have to do a thing. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jul 20, 2016 18:15:57 GMT -5
Trump just has words because he isn't Commander in Chief yet. Do you think the drone pilots aim is gonna get better once Trump gets into office? Accidents/shit happens in war. If/when Trump gets into office more shits gonna happen. He might just press the button. You say that like its a bad thing.  I seriously doubt that though. |
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Jul 20, 2016 18:17:03 GMT -5
Canada, Mexico and the U.S. Combined pump enough oil to fuel 95% of the U.S. needs. If you need a link I'll give you one. Create a North America OPEC and you can tell the sandbox to go scratch.
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Post by bxjetfan on Jul 20, 2016 18:25:02 GMT -5
Canada, Mexico and the U.S. Combined pump enough oil to fuel 95% of the U.S. needs. If you need a link I'll give you one. Create a North America OPEC and you can tell the sandbox to go scratch. I don't want to buy it on the open market. I want the US to produce it and collapse the price. |
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Jul 20, 2016 18:26:52 GMT -5
Canada, Mexico and the U.S. Combined pump enough oil to fuel 95% of the U.S. needs. If you need a link I'll give you one. Create a North America OPEC and you can tell the sandbox to go scratch. I don't want to buy it on the open market. I want the US to produce it and collapse the price. Well we sort have already due to fracking. Unless you subsidize the oil companies, prices can't go much lower or else they will start to lose money. |
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Post by Jets Things on Jul 20, 2016 19:09:00 GMT -5
I don't want to buy it on the open market. I want the US to produce it and collapse the price. Well we sort have already due to fracking. Unless you subsidize the oil companies, prices can't go much lower or else they will start to lose money. Domestic oil companies are doing more than losing money. They're declaring bankruptcy left and right. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jul 20, 2016 19:11:59 GMT -5
Canada, Mexico and the U.S. Combined pump enough oil to fuel 95% of the U.S. needs. If you need a link I'll give you one. Create a North America OPEC and you can tell the sandbox to go scratch. We import a little over 4.5 million barrels a day net. If we opened up all the Federal lands and pushed renewables we would be energy independent in no time. |
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Post by Big L on Jul 21, 2016 5:22:53 GMT -5
Put people to work building solar farms, and then keep them working by wiping down the panels every week.
Think about it,
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Post by DDNYjets on Jul 21, 2016 5:33:12 GMT -5
Put people to work building solar farms, and then keep them working by wiping down the panels every week. Think about it, Americans dont want those jobs. At least that is what liberals would tell you. Solar is still a ways off in my opinion. And there are environmental concerns with how the panels are produced. Wind kills the birds and is too ugly to look at. Lets drill baby drill and reinvest some of the profits into R&D for renewables. We went to the fucking moon but we can't drill cleanly and safely? I find that hard to believe. |
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I seriously doubt that though.
